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#1 2005-03-09 23:43:03

sn0n
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gnome 2.10

Any Thoughts, Opinions, Feedback..
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#2 2005-03-10 09:01:35

alexthelion
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Re: gnome 2.10

Personally I think it's a nice release, but there's not much new stuff for people who already used totem and sound-juicer anyway. Developers say it's a bug-squashing release and that's good, too.

After a few usual problems that I had after upgrading to the 2.9 series, Gnome 2.10 now runs fine except one little problem: yelp doesn't find its help files - I described that in another thread already.

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#3 2005-03-10 21:01:01

ozar
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Registered: 2005-02-18
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Re: gnome 2.10

I used to absolutely hate Gnome but ever since starting to play around with Ubuntu and Gnome 2.8 a few months back it seems to be growing on me more all the time.

Version 2.10 is working really well so far - already looking forward to 2.12...    big_smile


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#4 2005-03-10 22:39:14

Alkimyst
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Re: gnome 2.10

"Gnome 2.10 now runs fine except one little problem: yelp doesn't find its help files - I described that in another thread already."

Yep, same here. It's the only bug/problem I noticed.

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#5 2005-03-10 23:41:55

alexthelion
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Re: gnome 2.10

@ ozar: always nice to see converts :-)

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#6 2005-03-10 23:50:15

ganlu
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From: ChongQing, China
Registered: 2004-01-04
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Re: gnome 2.10

Yelp is a problem for unable to find help file, evolution is the other, which displays calendar as task, I do think it's a compiling problem.

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#7 2005-03-11 03:00:04

Gullible Jones
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Re: gnome 2.10

I think the use of Gecko for the Yelp (and thus the dependancy on Mozilla) is stupid. Yes, it gets rid of gtkhtml, but it annoys Firefox users like me.

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#8 2005-03-11 05:29:45

KalephOne
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From: Fortaleza, Brasil
Registered: 2004-04-02
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Re: gnome 2.10

Gullible Jones wrote:

I think the use of Gecko for the Yelp (and thus the dependancy on Mozilla) is stupid. Yes, it gets rid of gtkhtml, but it annoys Firefox users like me.

Thats why i removed yelp smile
I never used it anyway...  wink


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#9 2005-03-11 06:07:38

iphitus
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Registered: 2004-10-09
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Re: gnome 2.10

Gullible Jones wrote:

I think the use of Gecko for the Yelp (and thus the dependancy on Mozilla) is stupid. Yes, it gets rid of gtkhtml, but it annoys Firefox users like me.

Yelp can be compiled using firefox.

GTKhtml is an ugly bastard.

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#10 2005-03-11 07:56:23

JGC
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Re: gnome 2.10

Maybe a bit hacky:

change /etc/ld.so.conf to not point to /opt/mozilla/lib/mozilla, but to /opt/mozilla/lib/firefox

pacman -Rd mozilla

and enjoy yelp, epiphany and evolution using the firefox libraries.
I don't give any warranty on this, since I haven't compiled it against firefox but mozilla, so it could break. The thing that does run for sure though is evolution, since the nss-nspr stuff between mozilla, firefox and nss-nspr is compatible with eachother.

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#11 2005-03-11 08:18:45

benoitc
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Re: gnome 2.10

Gnome terminal doesn't work on mine desktop and nautilus hangs out when I click on file browser icon in default topbar. Don't know why. Will provide an strace if I can. All other apps are ok smile

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#12 2005-03-11 23:38:23

wdemoss
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From: WV - USA
Registered: 2004-01-18
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Re: gnome 2.10

after latest update, Shutdown has disappeared from the gdm menu and from the Desktop -> Log Out [Shutdown]. Reboot is still there. Also the buttons in evolution for switching between tasks, mail, calendar, contacts don't show up. Any one else experiencing this?


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#13 2005-03-12 00:48:29

alexthelion
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Re: gnome 2.10

Shutdown has disappeared for me too. Cannot even shutdown the system from GDM.

The buttons in evolution are not shown by standard but in the view menu you can make the show up.

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#14 2005-03-12 00:51:44

wdemoss
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Re: gnome 2.10

I just got the shutdown back by replacing the /opt/gnome/etc/gdm/gdm.conf with the gdm.conf that was in version 2.6.0.7 of gdm (If you had the 2.6.0.7 package out of testing you can just replace gdm.conf with gdm.conf.pacsave) Maybe this will provide some help for trouble shooting the custom gdm.conf in the package. I couldn't figure out the problem though.


Hobbes : Shouldn't we read the instructions?
Calvin : Do I look like a sissy?

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#15 2005-03-12 01:05:57

wdemoss
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Re: gnome 2.10

File roller no longer handles zip files, is this happening to anybody else too?


Hobbes : Shouldn't we read the instructions?
Calvin : Do I look like a sissy?

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#16 2005-03-12 04:03:07

Cam
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Re: gnome 2.10

I'm noticing with file-roller that if I right-click and Extract here.. it comes out in a dir filename.tar.gz_FILES which isn't like it should sad

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#17 2005-03-12 04:18:52

Gullible Jones
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Re: gnome 2.10

Uh huh... I think I'll stick with GNOME 2.8 for now. tongue

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#18 2005-03-12 20:01:09

soffcore
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Re: gnome 2.10

Everything works as the norm, however, where the hell is the menu editing thingy!? LOL

in nautilus I can't open applications:///

any ideas?

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#19 2005-03-12 20:13:51

nggalai
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Re: gnome 2.10

soffcore wrote:

Everything works as the norm, however, where the hell is the menu editing thingy!? LOL

in nautilus I can't open applications:///

any ideas?

GNOME 2.10 uses the new freedesktop menu standards. There's no viable way to edit one's application menu just yet; the team is working on a menu editor. Until then, you'll have to either use the KDE menu editor or hack files by hand.

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#20 2005-03-12 23:43:08

soffcore
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Re: gnome 2.10

Yes, I just found that out myself lol

However there are a few things you can do... such as to keep the KDE menu's from loading such as myself, I use Gnome 100% of the time and need only a handfull of KDE apps.. so here is what I did..

inside of /etc/profile.d I removed the executable flag from the kde.sh and kde.csh files.  This will prevent them from loading and wont update the environment variables for xdg.  So it will only grab the gnome apps. 

I also created a custom ~/.config/applications.menu file using the syntax stated here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-s … 01s08.html

The format of can be found here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-s … 01s04.html

This way I can have my own specific menus and the rest of the users wont have to see my custom Gnome menu.  big_smile

edit: the kdemenuedit didn't work for me. go figure.

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#21 2005-03-13 20:05:50

Blaasvis
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Re: gnome 2.10

alexthelion wrote:

Shutdown has disappeared for me too. Cannot even shutdown the system from GDM.

The buttons in evolution are not shown by standard but in the view menu you can make the show up.

The problem is fixed in 2.6.0.8-2 it was a upstream bug in gdm.


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#22 2005-03-17 05:39:26

iBertus
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Re: gnome 2.10

Just upgraded to 2.10 and I must say that it's an improvement over 2.8 in many ways. I had some problems getting the panel applets to not crash X but that was solved following *gulp* a restart of the system. I think some old 2.8 components were still laying around in memory and messing everything up. Everything seems good now expect for the fact that it seems more sluggish than 2.8. Maybe more bloat?

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#23 2005-03-17 07:20:32

nggalai
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Re: gnome 2.10

GNOME 2.10 seems faster to me than 2.8. It boots marginally quicker, and Nautilus starts quite a lot faster than in the old version. My personal highlights:

- Trashcan as an applet--finally, I can place trash in the lower-right corner, and it's always accessable.

- PDF thumbnailing--I don't know whether that's been possible before; at any rate, I like it. wink

- Evolution is lots and lots faster, in IMAP mode, than the last version.

"Places" is handy, but I don't see why "Preferences" are to be found in the "Desktop" menu. As I never use the applications menu, I'm not bothered by the inability to edit it ...

93,
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#24 2005-03-17 07:43:58

JGC
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Re: gnome 2.10

nggalai wrote:

GNOME 2.10 seems faster to me than 2.8. It boots marginally quicker, and Nautilus starts quite a lot faster than in the old version. My personal highlights:

Nautilus is faster because of "operation bonobo-slay", the task they have been doing to get rid of the complex deprecated bonobo framework (other apps will follow, just give them time wink)

- Trashcan as an applet--finally, I can place trash in the lower-right corner, and it's always accessable.

- PDF thumbnailing--I don't know whether that's been possible before; at any rate, I like it. wink

Evince is responsible for this, since 0.1.7, they have a PDF thumbnailer for nautilus. Evince is still beta/buggy software, but it's already faster and more stable than gpdf and ggv have ever been for me.

- Evolution is lots and lots faster, in IMAP mode, than the last version.

"Places" is handy, but I don't see why "Preferences" are to be found in the "Desktop" menu. As I never use the applications menu, I'm not bothered by the inability to edit it ...

93,
-Sascha.rb

Evolution put many things from the evolution frontend into the data server, which is running permanent with your gnome-panel whenever you have the clock loaded. Does it surprise me that evo 2.2 is faster than 2.0 then? nope, sounds like MS internet explorer that starts fast because 99% of all components are already loaded wink

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#25 2005-03-24 06:39:18

sn0n
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Re: gnome 2.10

Everythings faster and better as well as cleaner for me.. cept i cant get firefox to work.. :-/   is this a common problem ? i install it via pacman.. but i cant launch it.. :-/

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