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#1 2005-03-10 11:08:53

fetreney2000
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Software Recommendation

Let say I didn't want any of the gnome or kde library installed in my system. What software would you recommend for my desktop. Currently I'm using fluxbox-devel and xdm with this software ;

terminal : aterm, xterm
graphic : gimp, gqview
multimedia : xmms, xine, tvtime
cd burning : xcdroast
browser : firefox
email : thunderbird
irc : xchat
download manager : downloaderx
bittorrent : azureus
office : openoffice
text editor : beaver
file manager : rox
archive manager : ?? (need some recommendation)

Are there any other better software than this setup that you can recommend to me. Thanks in advance smile

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#2 2005-03-10 14:40:03

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Re: Software Recommendation

hmmm i'm a console person, so if you like that, i'd suggest:

multimedia: mpd (with ncmpc or gmpc if you like gui's)
cdburning: k3b is the best, but uses kde stuff
irc: irssi
bittorrent: bittornado or ctorrent
text editor: vim!!! (gvim)
file manager: ls
archiver: tar

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#3 2005-03-10 15:03:39

dadexter
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Re: Software Recommendation

I'm a console user too so...

multimedia: mp3blaster, mplayer (with -vo fbdev2 of course)
graphic: fbi
cdburning: cdrecord
terminal: oh god... zsh? tongue
browser: w3m
email: mutt
irc: bitchx or irssi
bittorrent: bittorrent
p2p: giFTcurs
office: hummm... vim for word processing tongue
text editor: vim
file manager: mc
archive manager: tar + bzip2
IM: centericq
Login Manager: qingy smile

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#4 2005-03-10 17:48:07

bogomipz
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Re: Software Recommendation

I currently use this:

window manager : pekwm
terminal : xterm
graphic : gimp, qiv
multimedia : xmms2, mplayer
browser : opera
email : mutt
irc : irssi
office : latex
text editor : vim
file manager : rox, ls, cp, mv, rm
archive manager : tar, unzip


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#5 2005-03-10 18:02:11

dadexter
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Re: Software Recommendation

latex for office? I'm trying to get some info on that... like making latex docs in vim, and then if needed, convert them to rtf or word docs if required... do you have any interesting links on latex and stuff like that?

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#6 2005-03-10 18:08:20

cactus
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Re: Software Recommendation

lyx


"Be conservative in what you send; be liberal in what you accept." -- Postel's Law
"tacos" -- Cactus' Law
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#7 2005-03-10 18:09:45

dadexter
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Re: Software Recommendation

lyx requires X right? tongue
me uses no X... just console

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#8 2005-03-10 18:09:49

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Re: Software Recommendation

pacman -S tetex, write your blah.tex file with vim, then run pdflatex blah to create a PDF out of it. Be aware that latex can be rather hard to use in the beginning, start by reading the The Not So Short Introduction to Latex.

The best of luck,
bogomipz


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#9 2005-03-10 18:30:58

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Re: Software Recommendation

window manager : openbox
terminal aterm
graphic : gimp, feh and imagemagick
multimedia : mplayer. mpd
browser : firefox
email : mutt
irc : irssi
office : Abiword
text editor : emacs
file manager : rox, ls, cp, mv, rm
archive manager : tar, unzip


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#10 2005-03-10 18:41:59

dadexter
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Re: Software Recommendation

bogomipz wrote:

Be aware that latex can be rather hard to use in the beginning

It's alright, I like challenges tongue

So I can convert to rtf, or pdf... good... as long as I can convert it for something my windows using/narrow-minded co-workers can open tongue

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#11 2005-03-10 19:22:16

fetreney2000
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Re: Software Recommendation

Thanks for the recommendation guy smile

what I'm trying to create is a completely working X desktop without any of the kde or gnome stuff. I love the console too and I know about managing file in the console usig ls, rm, cp, mv, less, grep, tar, zip, rar or even better using mc but I want an X desktop.
Right now all seem to work but the archive manager. I still need to use the console to manage my archive because the only gui archive manager that I know is ark and file-roller but both require kde or gnome library. Is there any alternative to this two software (something use gtk or anything except kde or gnome stuff).

ps : No wine too because I don't want any windows stuff in my desktop either tongue

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#12 2005-03-10 19:25:10

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Re: Software Recommendation

multimedia: beep-media-player (nice GTK2 interface)
office: latex (as others have suggested)
graphic: imagemagick (is a nice addition and good for thumbnails)

archive manager: there all kinds of nice scripts out there for use with just plain 'ole tar/gzip (in conjunction with crond).

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#13 2005-03-10 19:29:07

fetreney2000
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Re: Software Recommendation

skoal wrote:

archive manager: there all kinds of nice scripts out there for use with just plain 'ole tar/gzip (in conjunction with crond).

where can I find it ?

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#14 2005-03-10 19:34:24

dadexter
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Re: Software Recommendation

I'vwe heard of a program called guitar... I'm not sure if it needs gnome/kde

if not, take a look at www.freshmeat.net for all your software needs tongue

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#15 2005-03-10 19:55:06

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Re: Software Recommendation

fetreney2000 wrote:

where can I find it ?

Just do a google search on "bash script archive" or something to that extent.

Here's a simple one I found that you can modify: http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/files/loca … ipt.backup

A more complex one (with a lot of features): http://foc.neoartis.org/progs/backup/index.htm.en

Or, check out this "pagan" site: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup

There are countless more: a little digging is needed, and if you know various  script languages, you should be able to trim any of the one's you find and set one up specifically for your needs.

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#16 2005-03-10 20:29:53

fetreney2000
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Re: Software Recommendation

Thanks skoal smile
Its not quite what I'm looking for but its a nice script. I guess I can modify it to suit my need.

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#17 2005-03-10 20:32:23

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Re: Software Recommendation

There are some simpler package managers out there (not script oriented) if you're more comfortable with that.  I just don't know of any I could recommend.

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#18 2005-03-11 00:05:10

Michel
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Re: Software Recommendation

There is a latex-plugin for vim, so you get more latex-specific menus, ...

I think I got it from http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/

Don't know if you can create words from latex. You can make pdf/postscript-files/html(I believe)/... with it. Didn't researched it, but it can be.

Michel

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#19 2005-03-11 07:05:12

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Re: Software Recommendation

There is also texmacs. I think that it's in the extra or staging repo.

you can also create rtf files with latex2rtf. I've never tried it so I don't know how good the rtf file looks.

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#20 2005-03-11 15:23:23

dadexter
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Re: Software Recommendation

latex2rtf seems to work great

I usually used rtf for work anyway, since word documents created in OpenOffice seemed to always have problems with my supervisor's Woooord

but I'll take a look at that vim-latex thing, looks interesting

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#21 2005-04-05 19:42:30

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Re: Software Recommendation

fetreney2000 wrote:

Right now all seem to work but the archive manager. I still need to use the console to manage my archive because the only gui archive manager that I know is ark and file-roller but both require kde or gnome library. Is there any alternative to this two software (something use gtk or anything except kde or gnome stuff).

You might find ROX Archive interesting if you use ROX-Filer. It's a very simple GUI archiver that is based on ideas behind the Filer. It won't show the contents of archives though, so you need to extract all the files to see what's inside.


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#22 2005-04-05 21:40:47

fetreney2000
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Re: Software Recommendation

bogomipz wrote:

You might find ROX Archive interesting if you use ROX-Filer. It's a very simple GUI archiver that is based on ideas behind the Filer. It won't show the contents of archives though, so you need to extract all the files to see what's inside.

Thanks, I already use that but now I settled with an old software called guiTAR  big_smile

This is the PKGBUILD if anyone interested

# Contributor: G-Pitts (fetreney2000@gmail.com)
pkgname=guitar
pkgver=0.1.4
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="GUI frontend for the console archive manager"
url="http://download.html.it/recensione.asp?recensione=738"
depends=('gtk')
source=('ftp://ftp.html.it/guiTAR-0.1.4.tar.gz')
md5sums=('386c1817faf3b9e7afbb8a6f285ba5f9')

build() {
  cd $startdir/src/guiTAR-$pkgver
  ./configure --prefix=/usr
  make || return 1
  make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
}

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#23 2005-04-05 23:10:09

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Re: Software Recommendation

i agree with most people in here that apps mentioned here are great if you don't use a DE. problem tho is that it'll actually bloat your system more than a comparable DE setup would. fo example kdebase (including konqueror, kmail, koffice etc) needs around 200mb where your firefox, thunderbird plus openoffice eats away the same or even more in some cases. most of the time it's just a matter of preference so do whatever you want, just wanted to have said this.  smile


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