HAL Fails to start

falconheart · 2010-10-24 19:56:18

I've done quite a bit of looking around the forums and I've seen that other users have had this issue, but I have not been able to resolve my problem with any of the fixes I've found...
When I try to start hal (either via the daemons list in rc.conf or the command line) it simply fails. I've tried removing udev from the daemons list. I've tried reinstalling udev and hal. I've even tried removing ntfs-3g as I saw one user had a conflict there. No dice.
When I run hald --verbose=yes --syslong=yes I get this output in my daemons log:

Oct 24 14:51:51 localhost hald[29043]: 14:51:51.757 [i] hald.c:673: hal 0.5.14
Oct 24 14:51:51 localhost hald[29043]: 14:51:51.757 [i] hald.c:674: using child timeout 250s
Oct 24 14:51:51 localhost hald[29043]: 14:51:51.757 [i] hald.c:683: Will daemonize
Oct 24 14:51:51 localhost hald[29043]: 14:51:51.757 [i] hald.c:684: Becoming a daemon
Oct 24 14:51:51 localhost hald[29044]: 14:51:51.758 [i] hald_dbus.c:5444: local server is listening at unix:abstract=/var/run/hald/dbus-uq2IERLcpf,guid=ee6a0a212e0040cc071cafc200003558
Oct 24 14:51:51 localhost hald[29044]: 14:51:51.759 [E] hald_dbus.c:5821: dbus_bus_get(): Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

On a possibly unrelated note, the only desktop environment i have been able to successfully use is xfce (which isn't really a huge deal because I like xfce) but when I tried to use kde it froze at the kde startup screen. I don't think gnome started at all. I don't know if this is related or not. If hal were not running would that cause kde to freeze?

I'm new to arch so any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!!

toad · 2010-10-24 20:36:34

Top tip: put hal directly after syslog-ng in your rc.conf and don't background it

falconindy · 2010-10-24 20:50:10

Is dbus running? The error seems to indicate otherwise.

As I understand it, KDE still requires HAL for various operations. Gnome doesn't use HAL anymore, and X on its own no longer uses libhal for input hotplugging (passed the torch to libudev).

falconheart · 2010-10-24 21:18:21

I put hal directly after syslog-ng and it still fails. As far as I know dbus is running. When arch boots up it appears that dbus starts without any problems. Any other ideas?

falconindy · 2010-10-24 21:49:30

falconheart wrote:

As far as I know dbus is running.

This does not instill a lot of faith in me.

ps aux | grep dbus

falconheart · 2010-10-25 00:11:35

this is the output of the command you gave me. Is there supposed to be 3 instances reported like this?

ps aux | grep dbus
dbus      1416  0.0  0.0  12768   880 ?        Ss   16:15   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
falcon    1793  0.0  0.0  19832   544 ?        S    16:15   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
falcon    1794  0.0  0.1  13324  1284 ?        Ss   16:15   0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
falcon    2660  0.0  0.0   8136   960 pts/0    S+   19:10   0:00 grep dbus

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#1 2010-10-24 19:56:18

HAL Fails to start

#2 2010-10-24 20:36:34

Re: HAL Fails to start

#3 2010-10-24 20:50:10

Re: HAL Fails to start

#4 2010-10-24 21:18:21

Re: HAL Fails to start

#5 2010-10-24 21:49:30

Re: HAL Fails to start

#6 2010-10-25 00:11:35

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