Can not resume from blanking or screensavers

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-16 07:38:26

Hello,

I have filed Bug #21395, with no response or assignment of the bug since I've filed it.

My hardware goes as follows:
Intel P4 Pro, 2.4-Ghz processor desktop PC
1 Gb RAM
Nvidia 7300 GT card
Audigy 2 sound card

The issue with the bug has not decreased, but only increased with updates of xset, Xorg, Nvidia driver, etc. since I filed the bug, and it is next to impossible to resume from the blanking (that is turned completely off btw), and with dpms turned off.

I have no clue where the issue is with this; whether it is an upstream issue, or an Arch one. I am out of ideas on where to look.

If anyone has any kind of feedback on this that might help, I'd really appreciate it.

Current drivers and Xorg software installed:

pacman -Q nvidia
nvidia 260.19.21-1

pacman -Q xorg-server
xorg-server 1.9.2-1

pacman -Q xorg-server-common
xorg-server-common 1.9.2-1

And finally,

pacman -Q xorg-xgamma xorg-xinput xorg-xkill xorg-xmodmap xorg-xrandr xorg-xrdb xorg-xrefresh xorg-xset xorg-xsetroot
xorg-xgamma 1.0.4-1
xorg-xinput 1.5.3-1
xorg-xkill 1.0.3-1
xorg-xmodmap 1.0.5-1
xorg-xrandr 1.3.4-1
xorg-xrdb 1.0.7-1
xorg-xrefresh 1.0.4-1
xorg-xset 1.2.1-1
xorg-xsetroot 1.1.0-1

Here is my xorg.conf, which always worked up until this started happening (literally since I first installed Arch back towards the beginning of the year):

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option        "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from data in "/etc/sysconfig/keyboard"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option        "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Samsung"
    ModelName    "SyncMaster 731B"
    HorizSync    28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh  43.0 - 72.0
    Option        "DPMS" "false"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Device0"
    Driver      "nvidia"
    VendorName  "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Device0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth     24
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth     24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option        "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

I really don't know what else I can do, other than what I've already done.

I'm sorry if this is posted in the wrong section, but I really couldn't tell where else to put it. I did search the forum, but found nothing similar. If you need any more information to help troubleshoot this, please feel free to ask. This thread may be helpful: http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=838 - I posted it after I had turned off all screensavers.

Thank you in advance for any help that you can give, or light shed on this subject.

Ded.

Last edited by dedanna1029 (2010-11-16 07:51:12)

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-16 08:01:46

One more thing I forgot to add to this:

xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  0    LED mask:  00000002
  XKB indicators:
    00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    on     02: Scroll Lock: off
    03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:       off
    06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:        off
    09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock:  off
    12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
  auto repeat delay:  500    repeat rate:  30
  auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
                        fadfffefffedffff
                        9fffffffffffffff
                        fff7ffffffffffff
  bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1    threshold:  5
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  no    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600    cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0    WhitePixel:  16777215
Font Path:
  /usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,built-ins
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 0    Suspend: 0    Off: 0
---->DPMS is Disabled

As a last resort, last night I set things up using xset, and even that hasn't helped - I still came in this morning, turned on my monitor, and had a heck of a time resuming from the blanking again.

Thanks.

cirkit · 2010-11-16 10:53:50

What you can try to do to find where the culprit lies, is look at pacman.log and downgrade recent installed packages one-by-one until the issue can't be re-produced again. Has this issue always happened ever since 2.6.35? You may not be able to downgrade nvidia unless you downgrade to 2.6.34, but it may be worth it so you can determine what exactly is causing this problem.

Hyugga · 2010-11-16 14:17:29

Try disabling KMS. In your /boot/grub/menu.lst

kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdaX ro

add "nomodeset" at the end of the line.
That solved some problems for me.

Good luck.

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-16 15:42:12

cirkit wrote:

What you can try to do to find where the culprit lies, is look at pacman.log and downgrade recent installed packages one-by-one until the issue can't be re-produced again. Has this issue always happened ever since 2.6.35? You may not be able to downgrade nvidia unless you downgrade to 2.6.34, but it may be worth it so you can determine what exactly is causing this problem.

Do you happen to remember what version(s) these things were at along about that time? Say, around Oct. 15th? I still have most (if not all) packages that were "there" so to speak either in the /var/cache/pacman/pkg folder, or in one that I moved them to if root got full. I do this in case I do have to downgrade. Thanks.

Last edited by dedanna1029 (2010-11-16 15:44:11)

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-16 15:43:03

Hyugga wrote:

Try disabling KMS. In your /boot/grub/menu.lst
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdaX ro 
add "nomodeset" at the end of the line.
That solved some problems for me.
Good luck.

I'll give this a try as well. Thank you.

For all, I'm getting really frustrated with this. My computer is always-on, even when I sleep, and never encountered anything like this until last month. I need to find out if there is a way I can bump up the priority on the bug?

Also, I seem to remember a workaround posted for the pam auth with screensavers bug, but can't remember for the life of me what it was, or how to take care of it. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate a line. That is what all of this started with, and I'm wondering if I take care of that, if it might take care of the rest?

Thanks.

Last edited by dedanna1029 (2010-11-16 16:07:36)

cirkit · 2010-11-16 17:35:11

dedanna1029 wrote:

Do you happen to remember what version(s) these things were at along about that time? Say, around Oct. 15th? I still have most (if not all) packages that were "there" so to speak either in the /var/cache/pacman/pkg folder, or in one that I moved them to if root got full. I do this in case I do have to downgrade. Thanks.

Closest I have in the logs are from October 21:
xorg-server: 1.9.0-1
nvidia: 260.19.12-1
kernel26: 2.6.35.7-1

Check all these.

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-16 18:15:29

Thank you. I really appreciate it.

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-16 19:03:38

I've just successfully downgraded, with the exception of xorg-server-utils - it said it was tied to too many other packages to be able to downgrade. I did it in init 3, to be sure that X wasn't running as I did.

pacman -Q nvidia xorg-server xorg-server-common xorg-server-utils xorg-utils nvidia-utils kernel26nvidia 260.19.12-1
xorg-server 1.9.0-1
xorg-server-common 1.9.0-1
xorg-server-utils 7.6-1
xorg-utils 7.6-4
nvidia-utils 260.19.12-1
kernel26 2.6.35.8-1

Also reset xset for dpms:

xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  0    LED mask:  00000002
  XKB indicators:
    00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    on     02: Scroll Lock: off
    03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:       off
    06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:        off
    09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock:  off
    12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
  auto repeat delay:  500    repeat rate:  30
  auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
                        fadfffefffedffff
                        9fffffffffffffff
                        fff7ffffffffffff
  bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1    threshold:  5
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600    cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0    WhitePixel:  16777215
Font Path:
  /usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,built-ins
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 0    Suspend: 0    Off: 0
----->DPMS is Enabled
----->Monitor is On

Edit: So far, I have not used the kernel option, nor have I downgraded the kernel. If it happens again, I will.

I've turn on gnome-screensaver again as a test. We'll see how it goes. - Edit2: Actually, I've disabled gnome-screensaver and turned on xscreensaver - again, we'll see how it goes in the morning - am off to bed.

Last edited by dedanna1029 (2010-11-17 03:09:47)

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-18 03:29:52

Okay, have downgraded nvidia and xorg back to 260.19.12-1/1.9.0-1 respectively, also downgraded the kernel to 2.6.35.7-1. It still no workie.

Only thing I can think, is maybe I didn't downgrade back far enough - may go one version further back to the 256 nvidia driver (which worked fine for me at the time), except on the kernel.

xscreensaver, btw, doesn't work at all. I uninstalled gnome-screensaver to see what xscreensaver by itself would do. It acts like there's a screensaver running, when in reality there isn't one. The screen does take longer to blank now - but after playing with xset, and everything else, I can't get the monitor to not blank.

I'm fresh out of ideas... ?

I'm debating on a reinstall - have been wanting to move Arch to my larger drive anyway...

Last edited by dedanna1029 (2010-11-18 03:30:52)

dedanna1029 · 2010-11-25 13:34:50

I installed Fedora 13 on my front drive, and it appeared to be fine. I upgraded to Fedora 14 from there, and caught this issue. I tried the "nomodeset" option, and got a dcopserver error when I tried to load up a KDE program from Gnome. It does the same when I try the same option from Arch. This is making me think at this point, that this is an upstream issue, with either the kernel or Xorg1.9. I downgraded the Arch nvidia driver to nvidia-173xx, and still have the same issue, narrowing it further down imho to either one of the two, kernel or Xorg1.9.

When I downgrade the kernel in Arch, I get the same issue again, which to me further narrows it down to Xorg1.9. The problem is, it's very hard to downgrade each Xorg and x11 package - there are too many dependencies, so one might as well reinstall. Hence one of the issues with a rolling release - if I were to reinstall Arch right now, it would want to install Xorg1.9, I'm sure, and I'd be right back in the same boat again.

Last edited by dedanna1029 (2010-11-25 13:38:16)

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Can not resume from blanking or screensavers

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