KDE / KDM / Effect & All related questions :)

hellnest · 2010-11-19 12:20:11

I currently using Latest KDE SC 4.5 Package with latest Arch Kernel Package 2.36

My questions :

Desktop Enviroment
1. Normally i see the indicator Message on systray ( Other Distro ), but i can't find it. I try to search on Packages & AUR but still no luck. Do i miss something during set up?
2. When i go to Desktop Effects, normally in All Effects tabs i can found all effect that i would like to enable or disable. But i can't see any effect here ( The effect is running but i can't see any option to configure it )

Start UP & KDM
1. I following all the begginer guide's from Arch Wiki to make sure that all the stuff is running well, and then i try to make Login option from console not from KDM, But i don't understand that KDM always show up even i already erase it from /etc/rc.conf.

rc.conf

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
DAEMONS=(dbus hal syslog-ng networkmanager crond alsa)

/etc/inittab

#
# /etc/inittab
#

#  Runlevels:
#    0    Halt
#    1(S)    Single-user
#    2    Not used
#    3    Multi-user
#    4    Not used
#    5    X11
#    6    Reboot

## Only one of the following two lines can be uncommented!
# Boot to console
# id:3:initdefault:
# Boot to X11
id:5:initdefault:

rc::sysinit:/etc/rc.sysinit
rs:S1:wait:/etc/rc.single
rm:2345:wait:/etc/rc.multi
rh:06:wait:/etc/rc.shutdown
su:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin -p

# -8 options fixes umlauts problem on login
c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty1 linux
c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty2 linux
c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty3 linux
c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty4 linux
c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty5 linux
c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 tty6 linux

# Hypervisor Virtual Console for Xen and KVM
#h0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 38400 hvc0 linux

ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now

# Example lines for starting a login manager
#x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/xdm -nodaemon
#x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/gdm -nodaemon
x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon
#x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/slim >/dev/null 2>&1

# End of file

Is there something wrong with my setting?

3. I can't use "sudo" it always give me an error "No Protocol Specified, Kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0" i can get rid this issue by invoke "xhost +" but how to make ths permanent without invoke "xhost +" command?

Thanks for the attention

Regards,

Last edited by hellnest (2010-11-25 15:45:50)

bendersteed · 2010-11-19 16:59:34

hellnest wrote:

I can't use "sudo" it always give me an error "No Protocol Specified, Kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0" i can get rid this issue by invoke "xhost +" but how to make ths permanent without invoke "xhost +" command.

Try to use kdesu instead.

Bregol · 2010-11-19 17:54:40

hellnest wrote:

1. Normally i see the indicator Message on systray ( Other Distro ), but i can't find it. I try to search on Packages & AUR but still no luck. Do i miss something during set up?

If you mean the notifier popup thing (the circle with the exclamation point, that should have come with the thing; i do not recall it being in some separate package. If I remember right, it isn't exactly in the systray anymore, but defaults to sitting right next to the systray, maybe as a separate plasmoid these days? Can't hunt it down now since I'm stuck on a XP box at work right now, but it's there somewhere, not in some special package.

hellnest wrote:

2. When i go to Desktop Effects, normally in All Effects tabs i can found all effect that i would like to enable or disable. But i can't see any effect here ( The effect is running but i can't see any option to configure it )

Not sure what you are asking. Is there a specific effect you are trying to configure? Or are you trying to turn individual effects on and off? In the settings for the desktop effects, you can disable all the effects at once by disable the desktop effects as a whole. And in another tab of the settings, you can use checkboxes to turn on and off individual effects. If an effect can be configured, you can do that there too.

More on desktop effects settings here: http://maketecheasier.com/a-look-at-kde … 2010/09/08

hellnest wrote:

Start UP & KDM
1. I following all the begginer guide's from Arch Wiki to make sure that all the stuff is running well, and then i try to make Login option from console not from KDM, But i don't understand that KDM always show up even i already erase it from /etc/rc.conf. Is there something wrong with my setting?

There are 2 ways to get KDM to start on bootup. One is to run the daemon using rc.conf. The other way is to set inittab to boot into Runlevel 5. You do not need to do both things. You only need to pick one way to do it.

Although your rc.conf no longer has the kdm daemon in it, KDM is starting because your inittab tells the system to boot to runlevel 5. This runlevel launches KDM. To make KDM no longer start up when you boot, you need to comment out the runlevel 5 line and uncomment the runlevel 3 line:

## Only one of the following two lines can be uncommented!
# Boot to console
 id:3:initdefault:
# Boot to X11
# id:5:initdefault:

like that. Runlevel 3 takes you to commandline. Runlevel 5 takes you to graphical stuff, and in this case, the line "x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon" tells it that in runlevel 5, launch kdm.

ANOKNUSA · 2010-11-23 21:13:39

Bregol wrote:

If I remember right, it isn't exactly in the systray anymore, but defaults to sitting right next to the systray, maybe as a separate plasmoid these days?

It is indeed a separate plasmoid; just click on the cashew icon (or right-click on the desktop) and choose "Add Widgets" to stick it in the panel.

Concerning the effects settings: which effect are you trying to configure?

Hyugga · 2010-11-24 03:58:18

hellnest wrote:

2. When i go to Desktop Effects, normally in All Effects tabs i can found all effect that i would like to enable or disable. But i can't see any effect here ( The effect is running but i can't see any option to configure it )

I have the same problem. The "All efects" tab is always empty...

Rasi · 2010-11-24 07:34:02

Hyugga wrote:

hellnest wrote:
2. When i go to Desktop Effects, normally in All Effects tabs i can found all effect that i would like to enable or disable. But i can't see any effect here ( The effect is running but i can't see any option to configure it )
I have the same problem. The "All efects" tab is always empty...

this sounds like compiz autostarting...

Hyugga · 2010-11-24 12:51:26

I don't have compiz installed...

hellnest · 2010-11-24 12:57:48

Click the cashew also didn't bring any "message plasma applet" or something like that. The effects issue is happen for almost all users. I try to install 4.6 beta 1 and the effect option is enabled i can choose and configure all the effects manually. But still no indicator message. Is it only special applet that "kubuntu" had? because i knew this plasma applet when using kubuntu

ANOKNUSA · 2010-11-24 19:08:01

hellnest wrote:

Click the cashew also didn't bring any "message plasma applet" or something like that. The effects issue is happen for almost all users. I try to install 4.6 beta 1 and the effect option is enabled i can choose and configure all the effects manually. But still no indicator message. Is it only special applet that "kubuntu" had? because i knew this plasma applet when using kubuntu

I'm still not following. Do you mean this?

If so, click on the cashew==>Add Widgets==>Notifications.

hellnest · 2010-11-25 05:58:35

That's the notification indicator.. Here's what i mean

Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=indicator-applet.png

and this one for the "effects setting" that's dissapeard

Last edited by hellnest (2010-11-25 06:00:12)

ANOKNUSA · 2010-11-25 15:27:26

I've never seen that plasmoid; you might want to dig through the list on AUR and see if it's there, or check out kde-look.org.

hellnest wrote:

The effects issue is happen for almost all users. I try to install 4.6 beta 1...

If by this you mean "Many people who upgrade to KDE 4.6 beta 1 are experiencing problems with the effects settings," then the first move would be to downgrade in order to determine if the upgrade to an unstable version is really the problem. As for the effects settings, you seem to be saying that you can turn on compositing, but can't actually select any individual effects. This has happened to me before, but was the result of a faulty video card driver installation. Aside from that, I can't really tell you what the problem might be, sorry.

hellnest · 2010-11-25 15:44:45

Nah it's ok, It isn't video card fault for sure. It's pre-configured or something like that. And for message indicator i guess that's canonical stuff that they put on KDE...

Anywa in 4.6 beta 1 it's much better but it's not recommended for daily use. But the future for KDE 4.6 is quite promissing, the performance is improved slightly

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