Replace Vesa driver with xf86-video-intel --> X broken?

killerturtle · 2010-11-26 13:03:18

Hi,

I'd like to replace my Vesa video driver with the xf86-video-intel driver.
So I uninstalled the Vesa and installed the Intel.
After rebooting Xserver cant be started.

Do i need to generate / modify my xorg.conf file?
I still see "vesa" instead of "intel" in the video driver section. Replacing that "vesa" with "intel" I already tried, but no luck!

Thanks for the help.

Sven

bharani · 2010-11-26 14:13:12

X do not need xorg.conf anymore. And you don't need to uninstall vesa driver. If you have intel driver installed xorg should use it automatically.

See the xorg log for errors .

killerturtle · 2010-11-26 14:21:15

I installed the intel driver, but after that X doesn't start anymore.
Which file should i check for logging?

bharani · 2010-11-26 14:27:58

/var/log/Xorg.0.log

Use this code to see just the errors

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE

killerturtle · 2010-11-26 15:33:16

How can i determine which driver is being used?
Both are installed now?!

Mr.Elendig · 2010-11-26 15:45:08

1. what gfx chip do you have?
2. disabled kms?
3. paste your xorg log

killerturtle · 2010-11-26 15:52:14

It's an EEE 901, so integrated intel chip.

Mr.Elendig · 2010-11-26 16:06:09

exact model. if it's a gma500 then the intel driver won't work

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 16:10:36

I'm pretty sure I'm having the same problem:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=109035

It worked perfectly fine up until yesterday's updates, now I get just a blank screen. Is that the same problem that you're having?

In that thread, I refer to my E6410 which does use the GMA 500 card (at least I think it does) but the previous driver/kernel worked fine so I don't know why it was said that the Intel driver doesn't work with that card, because it did.

Last edited by jlacroix (2010-11-26 16:12:55)

Gusar · 2010-11-26 16:41:57

The GMA500 is not Intel's, it's a PowerVR chip. So no way that it works with the intel driver, it's completely impossible.

There is a driver for the GMA500 available, actually several of them, but they may or may not (usually not) work with a specific kernel and/or Xorg version.

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 16:43:33

Gusar wrote:

The GMA500 is not Intel's, it's a PowerVR chip. So no way that it works with the intel driver, it's completely impossible.
There is a driver for the GMA500 available, actually several of them, but they may or may not (usually not) work with a specific kernel and/or Xorg version.

Nevermind, I was thinking about my netbook, not the laptop in question. It's a GEM chip I'm pretty sure. I don't know. But whatever it is it worked with Intel before yesterday up until the updates. Now, it doesn't work at all, just a blank screen.

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 17:45:02

I put in a bug report:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/21839

karol · 2010-11-26 17:52:42

Can you post the output of

grep -E '\((WW|EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

? It could help diagnose the problem.

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 18:01:27

karol wrote:

Can you post the output of
grep -E '\((WW|EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
? It could help diagnose the problem.

        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[    22.319] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[    22.382] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[    22.658] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[    22.658] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[    22.662] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[    23.987] (EE) KB Multimedia keyboard : failed to initialize for relative axes.

Edit: Installing xf86-video-fbdev got rid of the fbdev error, but it still does not work.

Last edited by jlacroix (2010-11-26 18:11:35)

karol · 2010-11-26 18:25:59

Do you have kms enabled? Can you post the output of

 
sudo cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset
grep accel /var/log/Xorg.0.log
zgrep -i kms /proc/config.gz

?

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 18:29:19

karol wrote:

Do you have kms enabled? Can you post the output of
 
sudo cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset
grep accel /var/log/Xorg.0.log
zgrep -i kms /proc/config.gz
?

sudo cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset
-1

grep accel /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[    21.911] (II)         composite (RENDER acceleration)
[    22.963] (**) PixArt USB Optical Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[    22.963] (**) PixArt USB Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[    22.963] (**) PixArt USB Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    22.963] (**) PixArt USB Optical Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[    23.083] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[    23.083] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[    23.083] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    23.083] (**) PS/2 Generic Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4

zgrep -i kms /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y
CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y

I tried without KMS, and it lets me get to the KDM screen, but at the KDE splash screen it crashes right back to KDM.

Last edited by jlacroix (2010-11-26 18:29:48)

karol · 2010-11-26 18:33:07

'sudo cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset' should have given you '1' not '-1'. Did you follow https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In … Setting.29 ?

Can you post the output of

grep -E ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst

?

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 18:45:52

karol wrote:

'sudo cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/modeset' should have given you '1' not '-1'. Did you follow https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In … Setting.29 ?
Can you post the output of
grep -E ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
?

kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/55f7635d-72c1-49d2-90ca-2518d8b0059f ro
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/55f7635d-72c1-49d2-90ca-2518d8b0059f ro

I didn't actually follow anything with setting up my laptop, after installing X and running -configure, it just worked, KMS and all. Now it doesn't.

killerturtle · 2010-11-26 19:30:34

Mr.Elendig wrote:

exact model. if it's a gma500 then the intel driver won't work

I've got.....

GMA 950
The GMA 950 is Intel's second-generation graphics core, which was also referred by Intel as 'Gen 3.5 Integrated Graphics Engine' in datasheets. It is used in the Intel 940GML, 945G, 945GU and 945GT system chipsets. The amount of video-decoding hardware has increased; VLD, iDCT, and dual video overlay windows are supposed to be handled in hardware.[2] However in a feature comparison document[3] it is noted, that VLD and iDCT are not supported until GMA 3100 (on G33 chipsets only). The maximum core clock is up to 400 MHz (on Intel 945G, 945GC, 945GZ, 945GSE), boosting pixel fill-rate to a theoretical 1600 megapixels/s.
The GMA 950 shares the same architectural weakness as the GMA 900: no hardware geometry processing. Neither basic hardware transform and lighting,[4] nor more advanced vertex shaders are handled in the GMA hardware.
(wikipedia)

So the intel driver won't work?

Gusar · 2010-11-26 20:10:12

killerturtle wrote:

So the intel driver won't work?

Yes, it will work. It should work without the need for any configuration. If you have an xorg.conf, delete it. If you did anything regarding graphics in other xorg config files, remove it. If you have anything related to modesetting in your grub configuration, remove it. It should work without any of that. If it doesn't post the output of the command karol gave:

grep -E '\((WW|EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

killerturtle · 2010-11-26 20:13:21

okay, i'll give that a try in the morning

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 20:21:11

I'm wondering, should I just blow away my Arch install and start over?

karol · 2010-11-26 20:22:22

jlacroix wrote:

I'm wondering, should I just blow away my Arch install and start over?

Maybe a simple downgrade will do the trick - at least temporarily.

jlacroix · 2010-11-26 20:27:22

karol wrote:

jlacroix wrote:
I'm wondering, should I just blow away my Arch install and start over?
Maybe a simple downgrade will do the trick - at least temporarily.

Unfortunately, the older package isn't in the cache.

karol · 2010-11-26 20:29:11

jlacroix wrote:

karol wrote:
jlacroix wrote:
I'm wondering, should I just blow away my Arch install and start over?
Maybe a simple downgrade will do the trick - at least temporarily.
Unfortunately, the older package isn't in the cache.

You removed them before testing the new setup? Quite unwise.
Check http://arm.konnichi.com/search/ + https://github.com/pbrisbin/scripts/blo … /downgrade

Last edited by karol (2010-11-26 20:32:06)

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