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#1 2010-11-28 22:02:46

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LibreOffice

It might just be me being a newb, but I can't seem to find LibreOffice in the extra repo, even though it shows up at http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra … breoffice/ . "pacman -S libreoffice" results in "error: 'libreoffice': could not find or read package". Anyone know what could be wrong?


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#2 2010-11-28 22:06:18

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Re: LibreOffice

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

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#3 2010-11-28 22:14:21

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Re: LibreOffice

Nope. I can find other packages in extra too, Just not that one.


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#4 2010-11-28 22:16:58

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Re: LibreOffice

Try switching to another mirror.  Maybe the one you are connecting to is stale
http://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/

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#5 2010-11-28 22:24:57

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Re: LibreOffice

Thanks skunktrader, the mirror I was using was really stale. I wondered why when I installed python, it installed python 2 instead of 3 tongue


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#6 2010-11-28 23:08:05

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Re: LibreOffice

Signs your mirror is stale:
python is still the 2 branch
flies swarm about your monitor whenever you try to update
debian stable has newer packages
zombies use the same mirror
you have xfree86 installed and you hope xorg will hit the repos this year, for sure


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#7 2010-11-28 23:55:19

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Re: LibreOffice

It's odd though, I used rankmirrors to get a mirrorlist, but I guess it didn't take into account how new the packages were.


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#8 2010-11-29 00:08:08

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Re: LibreOffice

rankmirrors is entirely based on download speed.   There are scripts which taking into account how up-to-date a mirror is (reflector I think is one...)

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#9 2010-11-29 00:39:44

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Re: LibreOffice

That's useful to know. Thanks Allan.


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#10 2010-11-29 02:57:49

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Re: LibreOffice

DWilliams wrote:

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

Please don't suggest that. It is BAD practice to -Sy anything. -Syu and then -S is the correct way.


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#11 2010-11-29 03:01:24

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Re: LibreOffice

ngoonee wrote:
DWilliams wrote:

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

Please don't suggest that. It is BAD practice to -Sy anything. -Syu and then -S is the correct way.

Actually, you can now just do

# pacman -Syu package_to_install

and it will install the package, right along with the sysupgrade.
:)

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#12 2010-11-29 03:12:23

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Re: LibreOffice

Misfit138 wrote:
ngoonee wrote:
DWilliams wrote:

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

Please don't suggest that. It is BAD practice to -Sy anything. -Syu and then -S is the correct way.

Actually, you can now just do

# pacman -Syu package_to_install

and it will install the package, right along with the sysupgrade.
smile

Oh? cool, that didn't use to work... but you knew that =p


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#13 2010-11-29 03:15:40

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Re: LibreOffice

ngoonee wrote:
DWilliams wrote:

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

Please don't suggest that. It is BAD practice to -Sy anything. -Syu and then -S is the correct way.

Then why don't we disable it?

I've always wondered about pacman's weird argument syntax.


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#14 2010-11-29 05:00:25

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Re: LibreOffice

Anikom15 wrote:
ngoonee wrote:
DWilliams wrote:

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

Please don't suggest that. It is BAD practice to -Sy anything. -Syu and then -S is the correct way.

Then why don't we disable it?

I've always wondered about pacman's weird argument syntax.

Because Arch users are assumed to be non-idiots.


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#15 2010-11-29 05:11:40

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Re: LibreOffice

Anikom15 wrote:
ngoonee wrote:
DWilliams wrote:

Works for me. Try doing "pacman -Sy libreoffice" first to make sure your package lists are synced?

Please don't suggest that. It is BAD practice to -Sy anything. -Syu and then -S is the correct way.

Then why don't we disable it.

Because it is only bad practise on a rolling release distro so the "upstream" pacman developers will not disable it.   e.g. it would be perfectly fine to do on Arch Server where there would be no soname bumps for a given release.

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#16 2010-11-29 14:47:56

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Re: LibreOffice

For anyone who's wondering (like me), here's the explanation why pacman -Sy is often bad:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89328

(it's actually linked from the pacman page of the wiki.)

Edit: And I'd like to add that insulting people is not helpful.

Last edited by stqn (2010-11-29 14:49:51)

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#17 2010-11-29 14:52:05

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Re: LibreOffice

stqn wrote:

For anyone who's wondering (like me), here's the explanation why pacman -Sy is often bad:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89328

(it's actually linked from the pacman page of the wiki.)

Edit: And I'd like to add that insulting people is not helpful.

Neither is willfully spreading misinformation. Or posting without knowledge or at least the initiative to search.

Both of these do not apply to you, stqn, btw. Sarcasm doesn't translate online very well...


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#18 2010-11-29 15:04:27

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Re: LibreOffice

ngoonee wrote:
stqn wrote:

For anyone who's wondering (like me), here's the explanation why pacman -Sy is often bad:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89328

(it's actually linked from the pacman page of the wiki.)

Edit: And I'd like to add that insulting people is not helpful.

Neither is willfully spreading misinformation. Or posting without knowledge or at least the initiative to search.

Both of these do not apply to you, stqn, btw. Sarcasm doesn't translate online very well...

Am I missing something?


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