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#1 2010-11-30 19:34:17

uiii
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Problem with internal disk

Hi,
I have a problem with my internal disk ("unknown" SSD) in my laptop (IBM ThinkPad X41 Tablet). Some time ago this disk stoped working correctly. Data on it is readable (maybe not all of them), but I cannot write or change anything on the disk not even format it. I reconcile mysefl that this disk is broken and buy new external USB disk instead of buying new internal disk because of it's size (1.8'') and cost. I've left the SSD disk inside laptop and started using new external disk. Everything was fine until now. I don't know why but something has happened with SSD disk. Everytime when I'm booting a system from external disk it takes a lot of time (in minutes) a writing this:

sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled sense code
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Sense Key : 0x3 [current] [descriptor]
Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):
        72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00 
        03 44 e1 d6 
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] ASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x4
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 03 44 e1 d6 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 54845910
ata1: EH complete
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24
ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 tag 0 dma 4096 in
         res 51/80:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
ata1.00: error: { ICRC }
ata1: soft resetting link
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata1: EH complete
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24
ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 tag 0 dma 4096 in
         res 51/80:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
ata1.00: error: { ICRC }
ata1: soft resetting link
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata1: EH complete
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24
ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 tag 0 dma 4096 in
         res 51/80:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
ata1.00: error: { ICRC }
ata1: soft resetting link
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata1: EH complete
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24
ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 tag 0 dma 4096 in
         res 51/80:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
ata1.00: error: { ICRC }
ata1: soft resetting link
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata1: EH complete
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24
ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 tag 0 dma 4096 in
         res 51/80:08:d6:e1:44/00:00:00:00:00/e3 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)

...

This is only a snippet, whole dmesg output is there: http://pastebin.com/tW9SR3UH

So, the question to ask you is: "Is possible to get rid of this?"

I don't need to repair SSD disk, but only somehow be able to use external disk without bothering malfunction of internal disk. Is possible to tell the system to ignore /dev/sda (as is internal disk recognised) device? The reason why I don't just unplug the internal disk is when I was trying it I have some similar issues as this - very long boot time (at least as I remember). I hope you will help me.

Uiii

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#2 2010-11-30 20:22:44

lagagnon
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Re: Problem with internal disk

Some BIOS's give you the option to turn off/ignore the internal hard drive. Some don't. You need to try to turn it off from the BIOS and see if that works. Every BIOS is different so you'll just have to get in there and figure it out.


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#3 2010-11-30 21:02:05

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

Thak you for reply. In my BIOS I can only exclude it from booting order, but it doesn't solve the problem. OS still trying to load the disk. I can add that this problem (very long loading) hasn't only Linux during boot but also e.g. gparted when loading the disks.

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#4 2010-11-30 21:42:16

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Re: Problem with internal disk

Is the drive still in your fstab?


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#5 2010-11-30 22:40:31

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

jasonwryan wrote:

Is the drive still in your fstab?

No, never was, arch instalation on external disk is new. I didn't put any mention about internal disk anywhere in the system on external disk. I think the system only tries to detect devices in my laptop and gets in trouble with internal disk.

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#6 2010-11-30 22:50:10

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Re: Problem with internal disk

Have you removed that internal drive from laptop and booted off external to see if problem goes away?

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#7 2010-11-30 23:01:58

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

uiii wrote:

... The reason why I don't just unplug the internal disk is when I was trying it I have some similar issues as this - very long boot time (at least as I remember). ...

I haven't tried it now, but someday before when internal disk stop to work. Maybe I will try it again, but is not so easy to remove the disk from laptop.

Last edited by uiii (2010-11-30 23:04:50)

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#8 2010-11-30 23:05:04

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Re: Problem with internal disk

uiii wrote:

... The reason why I don't just unplug the internal disk is when I was trying it I have some similar issues as this - very long boot time (at least as I remember). ...

In BIOS try look for a setting for hard disk timeout, if you find one set it to a lower value and see if that speeds up your boot time.

Last edited by CountDuckula (2010-11-30 23:05:29)

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#9 2010-11-30 23:15:24

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

CountDuckula wrote:

In BIOS try look for a setting for hard disk timeout, if you find one set it to a lower value and see if that speeds up your boot time.

I think that this doesn't fix my problem regerdless of absence of this setting. Problem is IMHO in loading of some partition (/dev/sda1) on internal disk because of corrupted filesystem on it.

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#10 2010-11-30 23:20:57

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Re: Problem with internal disk

I've just found a BIOS simulator for X41 laptop at Lenovo's website!

Have you moved the external drive to the top of the boot order as well as disabling the internal drive?

Also, have you tried the F12 key option at boot time in order to select the device to boot from?

Finally, make sure you have the latest BIOS update installed as sometime that can be an issue too.

Also with the SSD drive, see if you can update firmware (will wipe data) and it might bring it back to life.

Last edited by CountDuckula (2010-11-30 23:28:54)

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#11 2010-11-30 23:30:42

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

CountDuckula wrote:

Have you moved the external drive to the top of the boot order as well as disabling the internal drive?
...

Please CountDuckula, this all what are you describing works well, there isn't problem with external disk. I can boot system correctly. The problem is directly after system selection in GRUB when init process apparently tries to detect disk devices and load modules for them.

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#12 2010-11-30 23:42:53

CountDuckula
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Re: Problem with internal disk

Ah, ok sorry was getting carried away there smile

The reason why I don't just unplug the internal disk is when I was trying it I have some similar issues as this - very long boot time

So when you removed the internal drive from laptop was the dmesg output the same or similar as the one you posted?

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#13 2010-11-30 23:48:10

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

CountDuckula wrote:

So when you removed the internal drive from laptop was the dmesg output the same or similar as the one you posted?

Sorry, I don't know. I hevent tried to remove it nowadays. I'm not currently at home and I don't have proper equipment to remove the disk, I can try it when I'm at home (at weekends).

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#14 2010-12-01 00:00:14

CountDuckula
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Re: Problem with internal disk

uiii wrote:
CountDuckula wrote:

So when you removed the internal drive from laptop was the dmesg output the same or similar as the one you posted?

Sorry, I don't know. I hevent tried to remove it nowadays. I'm not currently at home and I don't have proper equipment to remove the disk, I can try it when I'm at home (at weekends).

Yeah, might be an idea. If you removed it before and it was taking a long time to boot it could be that the BIOS might see there is no primary hard drive and start looking to the network for a pxe boot server - I had a Dell which did something similar. If you do remove the drive then I would also do a test by actually pressing the F12 key at boot and select your external drive directly to boot from, this way it should not do any timeouts and then check the dmesg outputs to see how they compare to your posted dmesg.

Last edited by CountDuckula (2010-12-01 00:01:09)

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#15 2010-12-01 08:09:42

uiii
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Re: Problem with internal disk

CountDuckula wrote:

Yeah, might be an idea. If you removed it before and it was taking a long time to boot it could be that the BIOS might see there is no primary hard drive and start looking to the network for a pxe boot server ...

It doesn't sound bad. I will try it when I'm at home.

Last edited by uiii (2010-12-01 08:14:14)

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