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#1 2010-12-03 22:27:51

erkin
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Can't install Nvidia driver.

I'm trying to install Nvidia's drivers. I'm using GeForce FX 5200. I tried to download and install from the official site's executable (.run) . But after I installed, my monitor said the signal frequency was out of sight. So, I removed the package, xorg.conf and 20-nvidia.conf files. Then, I installed nvidia-173xx package with pacman, which resulted the same. Then I removed the same files I mentioned, then (after I logged in to GDM) I reinstalled the (nvidia-173xx) package and ran nvidia-settings. nvidia-settings said that; I should run nvidia-xconfig as root first to create an xorg.conf in order to run it. So, I did what it said and restarted X, and I was greeted by the signal frequency error again. I Google'd it up and found only a few people having the same problem (The closest one was using Fedora and the problem was solved with YUM.) . What should I do?

Last edited by erkin (2010-12-15 15:05:21)

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#2 2010-12-03 22:48:15

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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Did you remember to reboot after installing the drivers?

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#3 2010-12-03 22:51:57

Misfit138
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Sounds like you have to force xorg into using a HorizSync within your monitor's range.
Do you have a Monitor section in your xorg.conf? If not, add it.
An example:

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model"
        HorizSync    30-107
        VertRefresh  60-120
EndSection

Find your monitor's HorizSync and VertRefresh specs and plug them in, or make sure they fall within the range you set.

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#4 2010-12-03 22:52:38

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

skunktrader wrote:

Did you remember to reboot after installing the drivers?

Of course  I did.

Misfit138 wrote:

Sounds like you have to force xorg into using a HorizSync within your monitor's range.
Do you have a Monitor section in your xorg.conf? If not, add it.
An example:

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model"
        HorizSync    30-107
        VertRefresh  60-120
EndSection

Find your monitor's HorizSync and VertRefresh specs and plug them in, or make sure they fall within the range you set.

I figured that out before but it didn't work. It didn't change anything at all.

Last edited by erkin (2010-12-04 14:01:35)

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#5 2010-12-03 22:57:24

Xabre
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Blacklisted nouveau?

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#6 2010-12-03 23:01:04

DSpider
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

How did he solve it with yum ? Maybe we can translate it to pacman. You should post a link next time if you think it's relevant.


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#7 2010-12-04 14:00:03

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Xabre wrote:

Blacklisted nouveau?

Yes, the official Nvidia driver has created a few files to disable and blacklist nouveau.

DSpider wrote:

How did he solve it with yum ? Maybe we can translate it to pacman. You should post a link next time if you think it's relevant.

I lost the link. I found a few with Ubuntu, Fedora and Vector Linux but some of them were left unanswered and some of them were irrevelant with my problem.

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#8 2010-12-05 01:48:47

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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

erkin wrote:
Misfit138 wrote:

Sounds like you have to force xorg into using a HorizSync within your monitor's range.
Do you have a Monitor section in your xorg.conf? If not, add it.
An example:

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model"
        HorizSync    30-107
        VertRefresh  60-120
EndSection

Find your monitor's HorizSync and VertRefresh specs and plug them in, or make sure they fall within the range you set.

I figured that out before but it didn't work. It didn't change anything at all.

I installed the nvidia-173xxx nvidia driver for FX 5200 using pacman. But starting X gave a "out of scan range" error from the monitor. The HorizSync worked for me. Here is what i have in xorg.conf:

 Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

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#9 2010-12-05 02:14:24

Misfit138
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Yup. I'm quite sure it's a HorizSync issue. Just a matter of finding the right range. If the OP fiddles with it, taking into account what you've got there, I bet he gets up and running.

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#10 2010-12-05 11:21:43

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

I have forced to limit the range within H: 30-96 and V: 60-75, but it still uses the H: 96 and V: 60 signals -which my monitor doesn't recognize.

Last edited by erkin (2010-12-05 13:27:42)

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#11 2010-12-05 17:47:22

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

I have tried many different combinations of horizontal sync and vertical refresh, but no matter how much I try; it's always H: 95 V: 60 (and sometimes being H: 96 V:60). What am I doing wrong?

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#12 2010-12-06 01:28:34

singenbale
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Well i am a newbie myself but i can give you a few possibilities. If xorg isn't responding to xorg.conf then;
1: you haven't truly/correctly changed xorg.conf. e.g typo error
2. you have changed it but there is a conflicting setting in xorg.conf below your changes and xorg reads that instead.
3. your settings have taken effect but where you are checking them is wrong and since the changed settings themself are incorrect xorg doesn't work.
By the way I have also used the nvidia-96xx driver via pacman for FX 5200 and it worked. I had mistakenly installed it when i installed arch the first time a few months back. I don't know what the differance between the 96xx and 173xx is but as the nvidia site said that 173xx is for FX 5200 so i installed that one later on.

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#13 2010-12-06 01:29:59

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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

can you post your whole xorg.conf?

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#14 2010-12-06 15:06:01

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

thestinger wrote:

can you post your whole xorg.conf?

Here it is:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Wed Sep 29 10:19:47 PDT 2010

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 94.0  # Note that my signal frequency is H: 30 - 95
    VertRefresh     62.0 - 75.0  # and V: 60 - 75, but I use these to be sure.
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

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#15 2010-12-06 15:50:14

Misfit138
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

erkin wrote:

I have forced to limit the range within H: 30-96 and V: 60-75, but it still uses the H: 96 and V: 60 signals -which my monitor doesn't recognize.

If your monitor is using 96, which is out of range, and 96 is in the range you have set, then you have set an improper range.
Also, I would try putting some resolution modes into the Screen section.

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#16 2010-12-06 16:27:19

Xabre
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Can you please post some more info on monitor, as in brand, model etc. ?
That would help searching (and hopefullyfinding) a solution for this problem. wink

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#17 2010-12-06 16:28:00

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Misfit138 wrote:

Also, I would try putting some resolution modes into the Screen section.

Which resolution would be suitable for?

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#18 2010-12-06 16:30:29

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Xabre wrote:

Can you please post some more info on monitor, as in brand, model etc. ?
That would help searching (and hopefullyfinding) a solution for this problem. wink

Here is a link of the company's official information about the monitor.

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#19 2010-12-06 16:39:42

Misfit138
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

erkin wrote:
Xabre wrote:

Can you please post some more info on monitor, as in brand, model etc. ?
That would help searching (and hopefullyfinding) a solution for this problem. wink

Here is a link of the company's official information about the monitor.

It's LCD? Try commenting out the Refresh and Sync lines completely, and try putting modes like I said.
Example:

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1680x1050" 
EndSubSection
EndSection

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#20 2010-12-06 17:25:20

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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Its confusing as xorg wiki states that a config file is created for nvidia in xorg.conf.d

So xorg.conf as far as I can tell is ignored.

I am having the same issue with my unknown monitor at the moment, only getting really low resolution on my Ge Force 7100 onboard graphics

Is this an Arch problem or Nvidia? seems to be a clash here

MrG


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#21 2010-12-06 17:41:39

Xabre
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Mr Green wrote:

Is this an Arch problem or Nvidia? seems to be a clash here

At the time the Gf FX 5200 was manufactured, 1680x1050 was not a quite common monitor resolution, so most of the graphic cards of that time didn't have a decent support for it.
Nvidia doesn't support older drivers for linux that much (only compatibility with newer xorg), so it's safe to say that this problem is a mixture of older nvidia card, newer monitor and ugly drivers.

However, it should work anyway, just needs a little bit of tweaking.

Let's see if Misfit got it right.

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#22 2010-12-06 19:00:19

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

I made something like this:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Wed Sep 29 10:19:47 PDT 2010

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    #HorizSync       30.0 - 94.0
    #VertRefresh     62.0 - 75.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport 0 0
        Depth 24
        Modes "1680x1050" 
    EndSubSection
EndSection

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#23 2010-12-06 19:20:49

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Nope, it didn't work. I get the exactly same error...

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#24 2010-12-07 07:51:21

Mr Green
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Are you trying this as your xorg.conf ? or 20-nvidia.conf in xorg.conf.d?

I tried to use a file like that as xorg.conf and it just ignored it

Still a little confused on setting up nvidia myself as I have not yet got it working

MrG


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#25 2010-12-07 14:58:33

erkin
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Re: Can't install Nvidia driver.

Mr Green wrote:

Are you trying this as your xorg.conf ? or 20-nvidia.conf in xorg.conf.d?

I tried to use a file like that as xorg.conf and it just ignored it

Still a little confused on setting up nvidia myself as I have not yet got it working

MrG

I'm trying these on xorg.conf. There is a 10-monitor.conf but I disabled it. Also there was a 20-nvidia.conf but I removed it.

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