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#1 2010-12-04 23:11:40

SoleSoul
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cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

Here is a (made up?) interview with Bjarne Stroustrup. He says

"It was only supposed to be a joke, I never thought people would take the book seriously. Anyone with half a brain can see that object-oriented programming is counter-intuitive, illogical and inefficient.."

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I … or_you_all

Well, wth?

This site looks as if it was from outer space. I don't know what to think.

The most weird part of the site is their "harmful stuff" section. It is very interesting but there is a semi-insane scent to it all.
I'm really confused...

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/java

I'm very interested in your opinions.

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#2 2010-12-04 23:29:09

drcouzelis
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

It's not true. http://www.snopes.com/computer/program/stroustrup.asp

And my opinion is that C++ should not be as popular as it is. tongue

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#3 2010-12-04 23:46:10

SoleSoul
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

Thanks.
They look like respectable people. They develop some nice projects. That's why I thought their site should be a reliable source. Don't they know that it's a fake interview, or they think it's funny to make people believe in ridiculous things?

Anyway, they raise some interesting arguments. Any more opinions about their line of thought?

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#4 2010-12-05 00:02:32

karol
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

SoleSoul wrote:

Thanks.
They look like respectable people. They develop some nice projects. That's why I thought their site should be a reliable source. Don't they know that it's a fake interview, or they think it's funny to make people believe in ridiculous things?

Anyway, they raise some interesting arguments. Any more opinions about their line of thought?

Who's "they"? IIRC Uriel is in charge of the cat-v.org site and 'insane' is an accurate description of that fellow :-)

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#5 2010-12-05 01:23:00

Allan
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

But it is on the internet...  It must be true!  big_smile

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#6 2010-12-05 01:26:26

skottish
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

Allan wrote:

But it is on the internet...  It must be true!  big_smile

You're just scared 'cuz you're a C++ coder...

He broke it and you had nothing to do with it.

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#7 2010-12-05 01:31:40

jasonwryan
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

He's not insane. He is just ruthless in his clarity.


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#8 2010-12-05 01:40:47

karol
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

jasonwryan wrote:

He's not insane. He is just ruthless in his clarity.

Same thing ;-)

Ambrose Bierce "Devil's Dictionary" wrote:

MAD, adj.
    Affected with a high degree of intellectual independence; not conforming to standards of thought, speech and action derived by the conformants from study of themselves; at odds with the majority; in short, unusual. It is noteworthy that persons are pronounced mad by officials destitute of evidence that themselves are sane. For illustration, this present (and illustrious) lexicographer is no firmer in the faith of his own sanity than is any inmate of any madhouse in the land; yet for aught he knows to the contrary, instead of the lofty occupation that seems to him to be engaging his powers he may really be beating his hands against the window bars of an asylum and declaring himself Noah Webster, to the innocent delight of many thoughtless spectators.

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#9 2010-12-05 02:17:57

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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

karol wrote:
jasonwryan wrote:

He's not insane. He is just ruthless in his clarity.

Same thing ;-)

Um, no. The first is libel, the second a compliment.


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#10 2010-12-05 02:20:25

Allan
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

And I am very litigious.  tongue

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#11 2010-12-05 08:16:55

CountDuckula
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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

Well this is what they say on Uncyclopedia about C++ - surely thats the end of the debate...

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#12 2010-12-05 09:15:49

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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

A language that has so many features allows great flexibility in technique. Whether this is good or not is up to opinion.

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#13 2010-12-06 23:31:22

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Re: cat-v.org claims that C++ was invented as a joke... Is it a joke?

SoleSoul wrote:

Thanks.
They look like respectable people. They develop some nice projects. That's why I thought their site should be a reliable source. Don't they know that it's a fake interview, or they think it's funny to make people believe in ridiculous things?

Anyway, they raise some interesting arguments. Any more opinions about their line of thought?

That "interview" predates cat-v.org by many, many years. wink

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