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#1 2011-01-17 19:23:59

beepressure
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new thunar, can't see removable devices

After the thunar upgrade I cannot see my ipod or removable thumb drive in the left hand panel of thunar. Can't mount them because of this.

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#2 2011-01-17 19:30:37

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

pacman -Si gvfs

hint: optional dependencies.


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#3 2011-01-17 19:34:20

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

wonder wrote:

pacman -Si gvfs

hint: optional dependencies.

I have that installed already.

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#4 2011-01-17 20:07:00

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

thunar-volman: error while loading shared libraries: libexo-hal-0.3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


That error shows up when I run thunar from a CL and then plug in a thumb drive.

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#5 2011-01-17 20:09:25

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

ok, thunar-volman wasn't moved. doing it now


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#6 2011-01-17 20:30:51

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unknown block device type.
thunar-volman: Could not detect the volume corresponding to the device.

When inserting an ipod or a thumb drive

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#7 2011-01-17 22:09:48

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

I have exaclty the same problem as beepressure with my USB stick:

thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unknown block device type.
thunar-volman: Could not detect the volume corresponding to the device.

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#8 2011-01-17 23:30:47

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

@beepressure, @Doehni: did you also install "gvfs-afc" and rebooted your box? I couldn't see thumbdrives as well, but after installing gvfs and gvfs-afc I can do it again!


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#9 2011-01-18 02:09:11

beepressure
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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Tudhalyas wrote:

@beepressure, @Doehni: did you also install "gvfs-afc" and rebooted your box? I couldn't see thumbdrives as well, but after installing gvfs and gvfs-afc I can do it again!

Tried that. Did not work at all.

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#10 2011-01-18 02:21:16

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Doehni wrote:

I have exaclty the same problem as beepressure with my USB stick:

thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unknown block device type.
thunar-volman: Could not detect the volume corresponding to the device.

Ditto here.

Why the recommendation to install gvfs and gvfs-afs? I don't see them the depends or opt depends. (Besides, I tried it and it doesn't make any difference.)

[21:18]% pacman -Qi thunar-volman                                           [~]
Name           : thunar-volman
Version        : 0.6.0-1
URL            : http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman
Licenses       : GPL2
Groups         : xfce4-goodies
Provides       : None
Depends On     : thunar>=1.2.0  libxfce4ui  hicolor-icon-theme
Optional Deps  : None
Required By    : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces       : None
Installed Size : 469.00 K
Packager       : Andreas Radke <andyrtr at archlinux.org>
Architecture   : i686
Build Date     : Sun 16 Jan 2011 12:19:09 PM EST
Install Date   : Mon 17 Jan 2011 08:40:41 PM EST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Description    : automatic management for removeable devices in thunar

Last edited by madalu (2011-01-18 02:24:29)

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#11 2011-01-18 02:38:02

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

gvfs is optdepends for Thunar not the volman plugin.

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#12 2011-01-18 02:47:46

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

anonymous_user wrote:

gvfs is optdepends for Thunar not the volman plugin.

Thanks. I see it now. But still no automounting after installing gvfs and gvfs-afc (and rebooting, restarting hal, dbus, etc.).

In fact, neither CDs nor usb drives appear in the thunar side panel. I suppose it's on to pcmanfm-git. smile

Last edited by madalu (2011-01-18 04:18:45)

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#13 2011-01-18 04:49:12

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

What if you run "dbus-launch thunar"?

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#14 2011-01-18 09:43:50

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Same problem here with same errors (see Doehni's post).

If I launch it with : dbus-launch thunar, it works. When I plug an USB stick, it gets mounted. I still get the first 3 errors, but not the last one.
A problem while using dbus-launch thunar : It takes more than 20 seconds for thunar to open sad

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#15 2011-01-18 10:24:23

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

You can use in your ~/.xinitrc

exec dbus-launch ck-launch-session startxfce4

Another problem is that after umounting the device gets removed from the sidebar, so to remount you have to plug out and in...


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#16 2011-01-18 13:45:40

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Using dbus-launch in .xinitrc is better. The long delay at launching thunar happens only the 1st time. Note that the same thing happens if I use pcmanfm.
Using dbus-launch uses more memory.
The good news is that I can probably get rid of hal...

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#17 2011-01-18 14:09:58

madalu
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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Cdh wrote:

You can use in your ~/.xinitrc

exec dbus-launch ck-launch-session startxfce4

Another problem is that after umounting the device gets removed from the sidebar, so to remount you have to plug out and in...

This is indeed a problem. I imagine this is someone's idea of a feature. wink

That said, using dbus-launch does allow for automounting.

I must say, these constant changes in dbus, udisks, etc. are by far the most disruptive aspect of upgrading.

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#18 2011-01-18 15:09:31

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Doehni wrote:

I have exaclty the same problem as beepressure with my USB stick:

thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unsupported USB device type.
thunar-volman: Unknown block device type.
thunar-volman: Could not detect the volume corresponding to the device.

For me, the problems persist, also after installation of gvfs-afs and restart...

I don't have any automount rule in udev, because I'd like to mount the device by clicking on it in the sidebar.
These are the udev rules I have:

10-cups-usb.rules
75-cd-aliases-generator.rules.optional
75-persistent-net-generator.rules.optional
91-local.rules

The local.rules is for my printer/scanner.

Edit: My user is in the storage group and I opened thunar with 'dbus-launch thunar'

Last edited by Doehni (2011-01-18 15:12:11)

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#19 2011-01-18 16:40:41

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Interesting but Thrash gone too. smile


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#20 2011-01-18 17:10:50

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

@eren - do you have gvfs installed? Its needed for Trash support.

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#21 2011-01-18 20:16:41

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

To continue on my post above:
On my machine, the long time it takes for thunar to start is due to smbnetfs daemon. When I have time, I'll try to play with smbnetfs options to try to get rid of this delay.

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#22 2011-01-18 22:06:06

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

anonymous_user wrote:

@eren - do you have gvfs installed? Its needed for Trash support.

Yes, it's installed my friend. I checked twice actually when i read this post.


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#23 2011-01-18 22:43:47

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

xamaco wrote:

Using dbus-launch in .xinitrc is better. ... The good news is that I can probably get rid of hal...

Isn't it better to replace hal with dbus in rc.conf and remove dbus-launch from .xinitrc?

Last edited by Leonid.I (2011-01-18 22:44:02)


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#24 2011-01-18 22:47:30

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

wonder wrote:

pacman -Si gvfs

hint: optional dependencies.

Right, but I kinda miss the point of using xfce over gnome, since gvfs pulls lots of gnome deps...


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#25 2011-01-19 04:18:10

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Re: new thunar, can't see removable devices

Having this same issue, have had gvfs and gvfs-afc and have been running dbus in rc.conf....

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