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#1 2011-01-28 07:13:27

tenlegger
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[Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

I've just "upgraded" digiKam from 1.7.0 to 1.8.0 and it would appear that Nepomuk tags are no longer supported. Before tackling the digiKam developers about this, I would be obliged if someone would be kind enough to confirm that the "Nepomuk Tab" is NOT there in "Settings -> Configure digiKam -> Metadata"

Thanks in advance .....


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#2 2011-01-28 08:48:56

attila
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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Okay, i don't use nepomuk, but you can select in digikam that it stores the tags in the picture files and than any file indexer should be possible to read them.

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#3 2011-01-28 09:09:19

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

In previous versions of digiKam, nepomuk support had to be actually enabled to be able to embed the nepomuk data in the images. This was done by using the Nepomuk Tab as I described in my original post. The Nepomuk Tab is NOT there in 1.8.0 and it is now not possible to embed nepomuk data in images. I've proved this by creating a new tag and adding it to a few images and then embedding the data in the images. If I do a nepomuk search for the newly created tagged images, nepomuk doesn't find them! In addition, if I view the image(s) properties with Dolphin, the new tag isn't there but if I view the properties of any images that I tagged and embedded with 1.7.0, the tags are there.

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#4 2011-01-28 09:45:13

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

I've just had a reply to my question on the digiKam users mailing list from the author and he states that "your digiKam is just not compiled with nepomuk support. It's optional ...". That explains it very nicely but how/where do I request a re-compile of digiKam with Nepomuk support - anyone?

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#5 2011-01-28 09:53:28

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Could be. Maybe I built it with soprano 2.5.63-1 which had nepomuk disabled. Can you rebuild it and see if is solved? I'll do a test ASAP.

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#6 2011-01-28 10:01:08

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Many thanks indeed for responding so quickly but I can't rebuild it as I don't know how.

Regards .....


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#7 2011-01-28 10:06:23

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

tenlegger wrote:

Many thanks indeed for responding so quickly but I can't rebuild it as I don't know how.

Regards .....

I'll rebuild it right now and check if it's solved (by the way I confirm the nepomuk tab has disappeared)

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#8 2011-01-28 10:28:52

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

I rebuilt the package against the updated soprano( 2.5.63-2) and the nepomuk option appears again.

I guess and update to the repos is to come smile

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#9 2011-01-28 10:29:50

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

tenlegger wrote:

Many thanks indeed for responding so quickly but I can't rebuild it as I don't know how.

Regards .....

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ABS

And start from there


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#10 2011-01-28 10:33:02

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Damnshock wrote:

I rebuilt the package against the updated soprano( 2.5.63-2) and the nepomuk option appears again.

I guess and update to the repos is to come smile

Yep, I'll update it in some hours. Thank you!

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#11 2011-01-28 11:19:06

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Thank YOU! big_smile

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#12 2011-01-28 11:20:01

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Damnshock wrote:

I rebuilt the package against the updated soprano( 2.5.63-2) and the nepomuk option appears again.

I guess and update to the repos is to come smile

Regards

Wow! big_smile

Regards .....


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#13 2011-01-28 11:21:19

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Damnshock wrote:
tenlegger wrote:

Many thanks indeed for responding so quickly but I can't rebuild it as I don't know how.

Regards .....

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ABS

And start from there

Many thanks indeed for that and the article is printing out as I type wink

Regards .....


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#14 2011-01-28 12:32:41

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

digikam 1.8.0-3 released. I'm marking this as solved.

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#15 2011-01-28 13:12:31

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

tenlegger wrote:

In previous versions of digiKam, nepomuk support had to be actually enabled to be able to embed the nepomuk data in the images.

Is there any advantage to store nepomuk data in the images instead of storing the informations in the EXIF or IPTC headers and let nepomuk/strigi scan the files to find out what is written there? And what do i see on a pc without kde if i look at the details of an image file? But thanks for the hint to look at the configuration because i ever overseen this in digikam.

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#16 2011-01-28 13:38:14

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

attila wrote:
tenlegger wrote:

In previous versions of digiKam, nepomuk support had to be actually enabled to be able to embed the nepomuk data in the images.

Is there any advantage to store nepomuk data in the images instead of storing the informations in the EXIF or IPTC headers and let nepomuk/strigi scan the files to find out what is written there? And what do i see on a pc without kde if i look at the details of an image file? But thanks for the hint to look at the configuration because i ever overseen this in digikam.

There are some reasons:

1 - Strigi is resources hungry
2-  Strigi doesn't have a good client (IMHO)

Besides: who said you can't store the data within the files? I do that as well as in nepomuk hehe smile

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#17 2011-01-28 14:25:09

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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

Damnshock wrote:

1 - Strigi is resources hungry
2-  Strigi doesn't have a good client (IMHO)

That is why i don't use it smile

Damnshock wrote:

Besides: who said you can't store the data within the files? I do that as well as in nepomuk hehe smile

Okay, than i understand this better. I have overseen this option until this thread smile

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#18 2011-01-28 21:15:22

tenlegger
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Re: [Solved] digiKam 1.8.0 and Nepomuk tags

bash wrote:

digikam 1.8.0-3 released. I'm marking this as solved.

I can confirm that this problem is now solved and a big thank you to everyone for your help and efforts - much appreciated.

Cheers!


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