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#1 2005-03-30 18:26:47

jaawood
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From: Chicago, IL
Registered: 2005-01-30
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Tilda - a drop down terminal

I ran across a program called Tilda, tilda.sourceforge.net, which looks quite promising, and pretty neat.  I downloaded the source, ran ./configure, make, make install, and everything went smoothly.  However, when I run it, I get a a weird error:

[jared@localhost tilda-0.05.1]$ ./tilda
ls: /tmp/tilda.jared.*.5:0.0: No such file or directory

(tilda:19647): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_get_size: assertion `GTK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
Segmentation fault

Any ideas?  It would be really cool if I could get this to run.

Thanks

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#2 2005-03-31 01:37:47

iphitus
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

dont run it ./tilda, just run it "tilda" if that doesnt work, try /usr/local/bin/tilda

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#3 2005-03-31 01:58:10

Cam
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

pkgname=tilda
pkgver=0.05.1
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc=""
depends=('xorg' 'gtk2' 'vte' 'xbindkeys')
source=(http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tilda/tilda-0.05.1.tar.gz)
url="http://tilda.sf.net"
md5sume=(2125d0d10d9764be3f8dbbebfb2206b5)

build() {
    cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
    ./configure --prefix=/usr
    make || return 1
    make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
}

I get that error too though sad

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#4 2005-03-31 03:29:37

jaawood
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

Yeah, it sucks, thanks for the package build though.  Maybe I will email the developer, and see if they have any recommendations.

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#5 2005-03-31 09:28:29

iphitus
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

If I were you, I would wait a little while, when I last used tilda it was still very crude and buggy, although it does have promise smile

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#6 2005-03-31 18:38:39

jaawood
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I continued messing around with it, and I no longer get the seg fault, now all I get is this:

[jared@localhost ~]$ /usr/local/bin/tilda
ls: /tmp/tilda.jared.*.6:0.0: No such file or directory

Not sure what I did.  Maybe I will just wait for the next version.

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#7 2005-03-31 19:20:13

phrakture
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

wasn't there a similar terminal called like "quaketerm" or something - it seems this terminal is modeled off the fps style "console"

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#8 2005-03-31 21:46:04

jaawood
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

This is the first terminal of this style I have heard of, but I have not been using linux very long.  I'll google it and see if I come up with anything.

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#9 2005-03-31 21:57:15

mdirolf
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I believe its 'kuake' with a K - a kde terminal app

-Mike

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#10 2005-03-31 21:59:08

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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

It would be neat if it worked....

I get the same error, but if I change the theme, the error goes away, but it still crashes, then the error appears again.


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#11 2005-04-14 04:46:17

KWITCHABITCHN
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I talked to the developer and we got the CVS to work.

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#12 2005-04-14 04:52:23

jaawood
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

Version 0.06 should be out shortly, which successfully compiles.  In addition to problems on Arch, there were problems on other peoples gentoo systems, although not on the developers gentoo system.  What directly caused the problem is still unknown, however, but it works very well as of now.

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#13 2005-05-25 08:02:01

Mr Green
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

pkgname=tilda
pkgver=0.06
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc=""
depends=('xorg' 'gtk2' 'vte' 'xbindkeys')
source=(http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tilda/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
url="http://tilda.sf.net"
md5sum=('6fc2419bc508a9bb41405f522cd8d120')

build() {
   cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
   ./configure --prefix=/usr
   make || return 1
   make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
} 

Mr Green

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#14 2005-06-03 00:05:59

deficite
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I always thought it was spelled tilde. Perhaps it's tilda for uber catchiness (TM)? I did a search for "tilda console" and a bunch of America's Army console tutorials popped up.

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#15 2005-06-03 07:05:46

Mr Green
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal


Mr Green

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#16 2005-06-03 13:15:10

medicated
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I really like the idea behind this program, but it seems to have some stability issues.  It often starts up for me and then becomes completely unresponsive.  The keybindings are also a problem.  I toyed with using the keybindings for xbindkeys and fluxbox.  Either way resulted in problems.  If I start tilda and then issue tilda -T 0, occasionally this works, but even if I am only running one instance of tilda, I often have to run tilda -T1 to get it to disappear/appear.  Since I have my keybindings set to -T 0..I get a lot of defunct processes when the correct command is  -T 1.  Has anyone else had similar problems?

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#17 2006-01-01 13:03:30

Komodo
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I'm trying to build this with the aur PKGBUILD and I get this:

checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for PACKAGE_CFLAGS... 
checking for PACKAGE_LIBS... 
configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0, gthread-2.0, vte) were not met.
Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively you may set the PACKAGE_CFLAGS and PACKAGE_LIBS environment variables
to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
more details.
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
==> ERROR: Build Failed.  Aborting...

...but I've got gtk version 2.2 and vte is installed... gthread is part of something else I assume? I can't find it as a package anywhere.

Any suggestions?


.oO Komodo Dave Oo.

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#18 2006-01-06 15:35:10

Komodo
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

*bump*

I suspect the answer to my problem is pretty simple, so can you put your thinking hats on please? tongue

Seriously... I can't be missing much. I have the latest version of vte, the latest versions of gtk and gtk2, and the latest version of glib and glib2 (one of which contains gthread, i think...).

Any ideas?


.oO Komodo Dave Oo.

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#19 2006-01-06 16:07:47

tomk
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I tried this, komodo, and it just built, so my thinking hat wouldn't help much, I'm afraid. I can put the package online for you, though, if you want.

Personally, I had no use for it, but you're more than welcome.

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#20 2006-01-06 16:13:12

Komodo
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

If you don't mind putting it online tomk, that'd be sweet, thanks.

Also, could you possibly post pacman -Q online, so I can try and work out what I'm missing?

Thanks a lot smile


.oO Komodo Dave Oo.

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#21 2006-01-06 21:52:39

tomk
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

Here you go:

tilda 0.09-1
md5sum: 99fc8d3f64ab874214d4171893ed06cc

And my pacman -Q.

Enjoy. smile

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#22 2006-01-06 21:58:49

Komodo
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

You legend, cheers tomk wink


.oO Komodo Dave Oo.

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#23 2006-02-03 14:47:13

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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

One of the most promising terminals out there: just autostart it hidden with X in all the workspaces... and then just control it through F1.

Just my congratulations to the developer of such a jem: I am waiting for better keybindings and tab-management!


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#24 2006-02-03 16:21:58

stonecrest
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

Not to hijack this thread (yeah, I know, any post that starts with those words is definitely about to hijack the thread), but a really sweet thing about fvwm is that you can achieve this same tilda effect while using any terminal you want. urxvt, gnome-terminal, Terminal, whatever you fancy. No need for a special terminal.

/fvwm whore


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#25 2006-02-03 20:56:26

iphitus
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Re: Tilda - a drop down terminal

I wrote a hackish script ages ago to do the same thing with the terminal and that works in any wm.

#! /bin/bash

pgrep rxvt
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
    rxvt -e screen -D -R
else
    kill `pgrep rxvt`
fi

needs screen to work. You could prolly write a much nicer one using wmctrl and controlling a window.

Theres also yeahconsole which does the same thing and is in the aur.

I still prefer yakuake wink

iphitus

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