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#1 2011-01-31 19:44:58

lorentz
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Ugly display after an upgrade

Hello guys,
I have a BIG problem. This is what my display currently looks like :
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This happened after an ordinary upgrade with "pacman -Syu" and a restart, because among upgraded packages there were kernel 2.6.37 and nouveau-dri 7.10.
This looked similar before, but only when using nouveau DRI drivers while running 3D applications.

I have absolutely no idea about what happens to my graphics card (it's an nVidia 6150SE) when DRI is being used. It has never been a big deal before, but now I just can't use my computer !! All I can see is the mouse arrow, all other things (menus etc.) get mixed with the mess.

Does somebody have an idea ?

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#2 2011-01-31 20:36:21

pablokal
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

You could try to use the propriety nvidia driver and see how that works.
If you can't login to terminaI I would kill x for instance by doing pkill openbox.
Maybe it is necessary to move to tty2; start another terminal session at the login by doing Ctrl+Alt+F2.
you could install the nvidia driver but libgl conflicts with nvidia-utils and gives problems with system update.
This  error can be solved
1. pacman -Rd libgl
2. Further  remove all *-dri packages with
sudo pacman -Rd ati-dri intel-dri mach64-dri mga-dri r128-dri savage-dri sis-dri tdfx-dri
Of course 3. remove nouveau

Then sudo pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils, reboot and
Then sudo nvidia-xconfig

When updating later do is: sudo pacman -Syu --ignore libgl


GNu/Linux: Nu nog schoner: http://linuxnogschoner.blogspot.com/

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#3 2011-01-31 22:38:49

berbae
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

You are not alone lorentz, I have the same problem after the last upgrade.
I get the same bad and unusable display with my integrated graphical chipset nvidia geforce 7100.
It looks the same as on your screenshot.

I had to downgrade the drm and nouveau related packages to recover the graphical environment :

libdrm (2.4.23-1 -> 2.4.22-3)
libgl (7.10-1 -> 7.9.0.git20101207-2)
libva (1.0.8-1 -> 1.0.6-1)
mesa (7.10-1 -> 7.9.0.git20101207-2)
xf86-video-nouveau (0.0.16_git20101217-1 -> 0.0.16_git20100819-2)

running the commands under root :

cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg
pacman -U libdrm-2.4.22-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz libgl-7.9.0.git20101207-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz libva-1.0.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz mesa-7.9.0.git20101207-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_git20100819-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

As you have the nouveau-dri package you will have to downgrade it too.
You should do that after having killed the graphical processes.

I didn't find any solution yet to that very annoying problem, where a 'pacman -Syu' renders my graphical environment unusable without detectable cause sad

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#4 2011-02-01 16:32:50

berbae
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

I wrote a bug report in Flyspay : https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/22700?project=1
It doesn't seem many are affected by this issue though, but if it is the case you can vote on the Bugs Flyspay page.

Can somebody with a Nvidia card and using the Nouveau driver tells if he has problems too after the last upgrade ?
Thanks.

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#5 2011-02-01 16:37:39

skunktrader
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

No problems with Quadro FX 500/600 and nouveau

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#6 2011-02-01 19:34:26

lorentz
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

@pablokal : thanks for your advice, the proprietary driver works well, but I don't want to stick with it on a long term.

@berbae : I saw on your bug report that your resolution is 1440x900. Mine is the same, maybe the problem comes from here. And I also have the line

[ 19.861] (--) NOUVEAU(0): Virtual size is 1440x900 (pitch 0)

in my Xorg.0.log.
BTW, my lspci says :

00:0d.0 VGA Compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)

Not sure if it can help, but still saying...
Does the same happen in any 3D-accelerated application (screensaver, tdfsb, openarena...) with nouveau 7.9 for you ?

Last edited by lorentz (2011-02-01 19:39:37)

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#7 2011-02-02 00:40:12

jonathan183
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

I got a display similar to the first post when I boot to console. If I login and startx I get a black screen with mouse cursor. I had to boot from another distro I had on the machine, chroot in and downgrade packages ... GeForce Go 6100.

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#8 2011-02-02 07:49:00

sacarde
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

here same problem after upgrade nouveau


[GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]

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#9 2011-02-02 09:39:20

hramat
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

same problem with

GeForce FX Go5700

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#10 2011-02-02 10:02:06

mOoh
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

same here, after sysupgrade / nouveau.

GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

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#11 2011-02-02 10:22:39

mar04
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

Everything works fine with 8600.

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#12 2011-02-02 23:25:39

jonathan183
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

jonathan183 wrote:

I got a display similar to the first post when I boot to console. If I login and startx I get a black screen with mouse cursor. I had to boot from another distro I had on the machine, chroot in and downgrade packages ... GeForce Go 6100.

Actually after a bit more playing downgrading/upgrading it looks as though the system works with the latest version provided I use kernel26-2.6.36.3-2 rather than the latest.
Maybe its a kernel rather than nouveau issue?
dmesg output has ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK3E] enabled at IRQ18 (for the latest kernel - which does not work) but has IRQ17 for the earlier kernel version which works ...

Last edited by jonathan183 (2011-02-02 23:32:23)

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#13 2011-02-03 23:05:00

berbae
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

Using kernel26-2.6.36.3-2 with the updated packages listed above doesn't solve the display problem for me.
I have not any line with "ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK3E]" in dmesg.

If it were due to a kernel cause, the problem would still be present with the downgraded packages and the new kernel.
But it is not the case, so I don't think it is a kernel problem, but an upstream bug in one of the upgraded packages.

I looked at the opened bug reports and the resolved one but I didn't find anything recent about that display bug on apparently NV3X and NV4X Nvidia chipsets with the recent releases of libdrm and nouveau driver.
But I cannot say with certainty if the developers are aware of the problem or not.

It seems curious to me that the developers don't test the new releases on at least most of the chipsets.
As I don't want to pass all my time on that, I hope that others will also search for infos and will try to contact developers on the nouveau project.
Frankly I want to do something else presently.

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#14 2011-02-03 23:12:06

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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

berbae wrote:

It seems curious to me that the developers don't test the new releases on at least most of the chipsets.
As I don't want to pass all my time on that, I hope that others will also search for infos and will try to contact developers on the nouveau project.

I believe that "the developers" test on their own hardware and rely on other consumers to submit reports based on their own experiences.

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#15 2011-02-04 14:05:16

berbae
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

A bug report for the nouveau driver development team is now opened :
https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=33887

We now only have to hope it will be fix soon.

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#16 2011-02-04 21:35:56

jonathan183
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

berbae wrote:

Using kernel26-2.6.36.3-2 with the updated packages listed above doesn't solve the display problem for me.
I have not any line with "ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK3E]" in dmesg.

If it were due to a kernel cause, the problem would still be present with the downgraded packages and the new kernel.
But it is not the case, so I don't think it is a kernel problem, but an upstream bug in one of the upgraded packages.

new packages with old kernel work for me ... IRQ number changes between the kernel versions which may or may not be significant ...line following in dmesg is
nouvea 0000:00:05.0 PCI INT A -> Link[LK3E] -> GSI 18 (level, high) -> IRQ 18

I think old package with new kernel stopped X working for me ... but would need to go back and check if needed.

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#17 2011-02-04 23:18:12

berbae
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

jonathan183 wrote:

I got a display similar to the first post when I boot to console. If I login and startx I get a black screen

and

jonathan183 wrote:

new packages with old kernel work for me

What you describe is different from the display bug the thread is about : for me and others with that issue, the console display is good after the boot, and the start of GUI doesn't give a black screen but an ugly and unusable display, a totally distorted image.
So I think you don't have the same problem, and the workaround to only downgrade the kernel confirms that, because I tried that on my machine and it doesn't change anything.
Nevertheless downgrading any package is not a definitive solution, just a temporary workaround.
But thanks for your contribution.

Furthermore the display problem with some Nvidia chipsets after the last release of libdrm and the nouveau driver is encountered by many users, and no workable solution apart from downgrading the libdrm, nouveau, ... was found.
It seems almost certain that a regression bug was introduced in the new release of one of the packages mentioned, probably the nouveau driver.

edit : correction of writing errors (sorry).

Last edited by berbae (2011-02-05 13:38:20)

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#18 2011-02-06 21:40:39

hramat
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

mine was caused by different issue and is solved now.


One suggestion

In /etc/X11/xorg.conf do you have?:

Section "dri"
  Mode 0666
EndSection

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#19 2011-02-06 22:55:59

diegoviola
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

I am experiencing the same problem.

Arch Linux (up-to-date)

$ uname -a
Linux myhost 2.6.37-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 29 19:40:04 UTC 2011 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
$ lspci | grep VGA
00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)

There's a possible fix here:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=33887#c19

Last edited by diegoviola (2011-02-20 13:06:10)

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#20 2011-02-07 17:39:50

berbae
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

I just re-installed the proprietary Nvidia driver for the mmio trace which was asked for.
I think I will do it nevertheless and send it to them, just in case and for infos.

Concerning the patch, it is not clear to me what has to be rebuilt exactly to have a working GUI with last releases of libdrm and nouveau driver.
And I do not intend to re-compile the kernel and other packages with git versions.

So now that I have the nvidia driver installed and running, I think I will stay with it until new releases of kernel and nouveau driver arrive.
I can live without KMS for some time.

But I am anxious to know if the problem is definitively solved with that patch.

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#21 2011-02-08 22:35:37

mariaheld
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

same here after sysupgrade

$ uname -a
Linux XXX 2.6.37-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 29 20:00:33 CET 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
$ lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M66GL [ATI Mobility FireGL V5250]

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#22 2011-02-17 09:32:42

sacarde
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

[2011-02-13 08:52] upgraded nouveau-dri (7.10-1 -> 7.10.0.git20110206-2)

new upgrade nouveau dont solve

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#23 2011-02-17 09:40:33

marcneander
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#24 2011-02-19 13:48:37

mariaheld
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#25 2011-03-03 08:23:24

sacarde
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Re: Ugly display after an upgrade

new upgrade nouveau... dont solve

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