[SOLVED] Framerate dropped since gallium3D radeon driver update

slacknatcher · 2011-03-20 05:14:50

Hello folks

As a usual visitor of Phronix, I've been following the development of gallium 3D based driver for radeon, which promised a great performance improvement over regular mesa drivers, but since the official inclusion of them on arch extra repository, i noticed a sustainable drop of framerates on Glxgear (i know it isn't a official test, but it is a indicator after all).

With integrated radeon HD 3300 + 2.6.38 compiled kernel + repository upgrade, these are the results

Classic mesa: GlxGears -> 1500 Fps (last time a checked)

Gallium 3D based: Glxgears -> 140 Fps

I'm aware of the Vsync and Ts3c "tricks" to improve performance, but they haven't shown any improvement. anyone else experimenting this? is this a known situation?

Thanks in advance.

/edit: spelling on title.

Last edited by slacknatcher (2011-03-30 01:19:45)

R00KIE · 2011-03-20 10:50:42

http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgea … _Benchmark

Test with a game or several games.

Cdh · 2011-03-20 11:33:14

Yes, glxgears is not a benchmark but 140 fps seems still a bit low like software rendering.

Can you post

LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo | grep render

?

slacknatcher · 2011-03-20 19:02:57

Cdh: sure.

slack@Soul> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo | grep render                                             
libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 4.3.0 r600 (screen 0)
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/tls/r600_dri.so
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/r600_dri.so
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 4
drmOpenByBusid: Interface 1.4 failed, trying 1.1
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0
libGL error: Calling driver entry point failedlibGL error: reverting to software direct rendering
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/tls/swrast_dri.so
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/swrast_dri.so
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
    GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_light_max_exponent,

mmm i hadn't checked this before (with the verbose output) but looking at

libGL error: Calling driver entry point failedlibGL error: reverting to software direct rendering

seems to be very bad.

R00KIE · 2011-03-20 22:34:19

Did you install linux-firmware and is your user in the video group?

slacknatcher · 2011-03-21 00:38:22

Rookie: yes a I've installed linux-firmware, i wasn't on the video group, but add me to it didn't make any difference

wonder · 2011-03-21 02:22:32

be sure you do not disable KMS

slacknatcher · 2011-03-21 02:32:09

wonder: do you mean if i have it enabled? then the answer is yes, if you see glxinfo output above says "direct rendering = yes".

R00KIE · 2011-03-21 08:36:19

And then it says "OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe" when it should say something like "OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV610" with a different card codename.

Did you relogin after adding yourself to the video group? Also direct rendering is not the same as KMS, however if I'm not wrong the radeon driver does not support UMS anymore so most probably you are using KMS.

Remove or rename /etc/drirc and ~/.drirc if you have any of those, remove or rename any extra custom xorg.conf configurations you might have added (only settings that affect the gfx card directly), check if the mirror you are using is up-to-date, if not choose another mirror and perform a full system update.

No more ideas here for now.

ngoonee · 2011-03-21 08:51:16

Please edit your thread title, the spelling of inclusion is quite jarring

Cdh · 2011-03-21 11:44:10

Do you use the xorg from testing? I have read it doesn't work with the radeon driver at the moment.

Are you using the radeon repository?

[radeon]
Server = http://spiralinear.org/perry3d/$arch/

If not, then you might try it to get rid of a potential bug in the current driver...

slacknatcher · 2011-03-21 14:26:29

ngoonee: Edited, but the spelling of inclusion at least for me seemed correct. but considering i'm not a native english speaker, is quite sure i'm wrong .

Rookie: yes i did relogin after put myself on the video group.
i removed ~/.drirc + /etc/dri, but everything goes the same

LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo | grep render                                             
libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 4.3.0 r600 (screen 0)
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/tls/r600_dri.so
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/r600_dri.so
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:01:05.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 4
drmOpenByBusid: Interface 1.4 failed, trying 1.1
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:01:05.0
libGL error: Calling driver entry point failedlibGL error: reverting to software direct rendering
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/tls/swrast_dri.so
libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/swrast_dri.so
libGL: Can't open configuration file /etc/drirc: No such file or directory.
libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/slack/.drirc: No such file or directory.
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
    GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_light_max_exponent,

Cdh: I'm using the drivers from extra, in the past I used the ones from the radeon-repo, but they showed similar results (They even showed no direct rendering).

/edit: adding result from removing .drirc

Last edited by slacknatcher (2011-03-21 14:36:38)

some-guy94 · 2011-03-22 02:51:05

Are you sure you're using the packages from extra? Make sure that you don't have any left over packages from the radeon repo.

slacknatcher · 2011-03-22 21:25:58

some-guy94: i don't have any package installed from the radeon-repo

slacknatcher · 2011-03-25 03:45:41

Well the modules seem to be loaded and working, i don't know why aren't used.

lsmod output

slack@Soul> lsmod                                                                                 ~
Module                  Size  Used by
usblp                  10640  0 
af_packet              19771  0 
radeon                926181  1 
ttm                    53103  1 radeon
drm_kms_helper         26027  1 radeon
drm                   164220  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
agpgart                26001  2 ttm,drm
fb                     54301  2 radeon,drm_kms_helper
fbdev                    689  1 fb
i2c_algo_bit            4920  1 radeon
cfbcopyarea             3153  1 radeon
power_supply            8227  1 radeon
cfbimgblt               2065  1 radeon
cfbfillrect             3581  1 radeon
ipv6                  252328  18 
fuse                   64787  3 
snd_seq_dummy           1303  0 
snd_seq_oss            26488  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      5212  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                47235  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          4977  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            35191  0 
snd_mixer_oss          14643  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     22425  1 
snd_hda_codec_realtek   294158  1 
mousedev               10367  0 
ohci_hcd               20778  0 
snd_hda_intel          21197  5 
snd_hda_codec          64324  3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
processor              22905  0 
snd_hwdep               5790  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                64763  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer              18145  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    52932  22 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
ehci_hcd               38318  0 
thermal                 7618  0 
soundcore               5361  1 snd
r8169                  37314  0 
thermal_sys            13885  2 processor,thermal
usbcore               133834  4 usblp,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
i2c_piix4               7968  0 
snd_page_alloc          6737  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
i2c_core               17837  5 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_piix4
edac_core              34667  0 
edac_mce_amd           12991  0 
k10temp                 2659  0 
firmware_class          5795  2 radeon,r8169
sg                     24276  0 
mii                     3666  1 r8169
button                  4674  0 
psmouse                53314  0 
hwmon                   1409  3 radeon,thermal_sys,k10temp
evdev                   8945  4 
serio_raw               4038  0 
rtc_cmos                9054  0 
rtc_core               16003  1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib                 2106  1 rtc_core
ext4                  256377  1 
mbcache                 5466  1 ext4
jbd2                   52839  1 ext4
crc16                   1233  1 ext4
sr_mod                 13935  0 
cdrom                  34685  1 sr_mod
sd_mod                 26287  4 
pata_atiixp             3801  0 
ahci                   20225  3 
libahci                17883  1 ahci
pata_jmicron            2384  0 
pata_acpi               3248  0 
libata                166068  5 pata_atiixp,ahci,libahci,pata_jmicron,pata_acpi
scsi_mod               92803  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata

thestinger · 2011-03-25 20:59:55

Post of the output of `dmesg` too.

slacknatcher · 2011-03-26 00:09:35

thestinger: sure

>dmesg | grep drm
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[drm] radeon defaulting to userspace modesetting.
[drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010).
[drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.33.0 20080528 for 0000:01:05.0 on minor 0
[drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map
[drm] Loading RS780 CP Microcode
[drm] Resetting GPU
[drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs

thestinger · 2011-03-26 02:44:12

[drm] radeon defaulting to userspace modesetting.

For some reason, KMS is disabled and radeon is using UMS, which isn't really supported anymore.

Check your kernel line in your bootloader config for 'nomodeset' or 'vga=xxx' and remove them.

slacknatcher · 2011-03-26 19:49:15

thestinger wrote:

[drm] radeon defaulting to userspace modesetting.
For some reason, KMS is disabled and radeon is using UMS, which isn't really supported anymore.
Check your kernel line in your bootloader config for 'nomodeset' or 'vga=xxx' and remove them.

thanks to you a solved the problem, but not by your advice

no i don't have a 'nomodeset' or a 'vga=xxx' line on grub, but i boot up from a compiled kernel, so i booted from the official arch-linux kernel, and got 1100 Fps on glxgears!, i compare the .config files from the 2 kernels and noticed that i don't have checked "default modsetting on radeon" (with the old drivers it started latter, but it seems that with gallium it doesn't), so recompiling the problem solves.

Thanks !

wonder · 2011-03-26 19:50:30

@slacknatcher i said that 5 days ago!

slacknatcher · 2011-03-26 20:09:09

@wonder: opps ! you're right!

I didn't understand you at first

be sure you do not disable KMS

I understood that i had to check if i disabled kms on start, as with 'nomodset' on boot, i should had understood to check it at compile time. my bad !

thanks you anyways for your help!, though i should check my english

slacknatcher · 2011-03-26 21:18:09

I remembered why I unchecked 'default modsetting', is because when is checked, i can log on KDE but no on the TTY (CTR+ALT+{F1..F6}), it only show the last frame of KDE but no text nor shell.

Also when booting, my PC doesn't show text after loading udev, putting the screen on stand-by until KDM starts.

Every time i try to put a tty, dmesg add this line to the log.

[drm:drm_mode_getfb] *ERROR* invalid framebuffer id

Googling that show a lot of complains. but no solution. anybody with the same problem?

slacknatcher · 2011-03-30 01:19:20

solved now, the problem was a non-loaded fbcon module, needed to provide fb output to radeon KMS driver.

thanks you a lot archlinux community

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