SOLVED: New Pacman Breaks Netinstaller

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 13:53:41

I'm deploying a fresh install of Arch and have run into issues (I'm assuming) due to the new pacman. When selecting packages during the install, it fails out when using a properly sync-ing mirror. If I select one that is out of date, it works just fine, so I'm sure it has something with how the new pacman is layed out and thus how the mirrors are handling their information.

The question is how to fix it. I don't want to install an old system and upgrade everything and a new installer isn't out yet. I've already tried manually entering the new repo URL so I know it's deeper than just the change in repo URLs a while back. The old pacman on the installer is definitely looking for something that doesn't exist.

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commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:15:54

It just occurred to me about the pacman database reformatting I had to do on another machine a couple days ago. The problem must be that the repos no longer contain a db that old pacman will understand.

Allan · 2011-03-26 14:18:16

That is not the issue. What is on the mirrors has not changed at all.

Swtich to VC-7 (I think) for the actual pacman output and post it here.

graysky · 2011-03-26 14:19:14

Ack, please don't double post! https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=115745

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:25:50

@graysky:

If you read my other post, you'll see I openly admit to X-posting my question - acknowledging it is bad practice and citing my reason for doing it. Please be helpful instead of parroting rules we all already know.

@Allan:

All tty7 was showing in terms of debugging info was that pacman could not get core.db.Iforgetthewholefilename from my mirror.

It has to be an issue with pacman. I have tried several of my favorite mirrors from the CD, as well as manually typed in the "new" address of them (where they stopped using the x86_64/repo structure). All of these get the same results. However, when I purposely select an out-of-sync mirror (I used one that was still on 2.6.34) it works just fine.

JokerBoy · 2011-03-26 14:27:21

I wonder why this doesn't happen to me.

http://ompldr.org/vN3ozOA/snapshot1.png

litemotiv · 2011-03-26 14:29:51

commonmanthemes, admitting to cross-post does not make it less problematic, and being in a hurry is by no means a valid reason. Please don't do it again.

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:31:04

@JokerBoy:

It looks like you're on an already installed machine. I too had to do the db-upgrade on my other machine. This question is about a machine that I'm doing a fresh netinstall of. The installer dies at "selecting packages."

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:37:41

@litemotiv:

It's not something I regularly do and if you want to be specific it was because I need to finish a machine for somebody I'm helping out ASAP. I picked the two places because they were both very relevant to the issue. "Problematic" isn't exactly the best way to describe getting something in front of more people who could help or need help in the same way. I understand you closing my other post, but really now... Taking time out of your day to give me your two cents? That's just super friendy and helpful!

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:44:30

So far I've got an overzealous mod and a sarcastic guy who didn't read the question. Tee hee.

litemotiv · 2011-03-26 14:48:53

commonmanthemes wrote:

@litemotiv:
It's not something I regularly do and if you want to be specific it was because I need to finish a machine for somebody I'm helping out ASAP. I picked the two places because they were both very relevant to the issue. "Problematic" isn't exactly the best way to describe getting something in front of more people who could help or need help in the same way. I understand you closing my other post, but really now... Taking time out of your day to give me your two cents? That's just super friendy and helpful!

It might not be problematic for you, but it is for the people having to deal with it, namely your fellow users and moderators. You might be hoping to save yourself some time by doing that, but you're wasting everyone else's time here and your problem is not more important just because you are in a hurry.

Again, the rules are clear, consider this an official warning.

wonder · 2011-03-26 14:51:27

@commonmanthemes i did a netinstall couples of hours ago. works good. you only need to run pacman-db-upgrade before first using pacman.

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:53:45

@litemotiv:

The rules were clear to me beforehand and were even more clear when you closed my post. That should have been the end of it. Have you even considered I was actively watching both threads and was going to post a solution to both for people to reference and not have to ask again? Let's not make this a b*tchfest. I'm here to talk about a potential issue for people deploying fresh installs.

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 14:54:49

@wonder:

Thank you for the help. So I assume I just switch to tty2 after selecting my mirror and running the upgrade command? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but I'm not clear at what point pacman is able to know what it's upgrading to.

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graysky · 2011-03-26 15:04:49

commonmanthemes wrote:

So far I've got an overzealous mod and a sarcastic guy who didn't read the question. Tee hee.

Sarcastic? "Please don't double post." Seems pretty nice to me.

commonmanthemes wrote:

Let's not make this a b*tchfest. I'm here to talk about a potential issue for people deploying fresh installs.

Yeah, but of the 15 posts in this topic which were on topic, 8 of them are off topic. 0.43 is a pretty shitty signal-to-noise ratio

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 15:07:37

@graysky:

For the record, I was referring to JokerBoy being sarcastic. I do agree with you on the signal-to-noise, and yet... We are further debasing the conversation. Hahaha.

Back ON TOPIC, I attempted to switch to tty2 after selecting my mirror and my disk setup and the pacman-db-upgrade command says it doesn't exist.

bangkok_manouel · 2011-03-26 15:11:06

instead of old/new mirrors, can you check if they're not http/ftp?

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 15:13:03

@bangkok_manouel:

I've tried both http and ftp of the rit.edu mirror and http of the gatech.edu mirror if that's what you meant. Sorry if I misunderstood the question.

skunktrader · 2011-03-26 15:21:09

rit.edu is down for me here. ece.vt.edu is working fine

wonder · 2011-03-26 15:25:16

commonmanthemes wrote:

@wonder:
Thank you for the help. So I assume I just switch to tty2 after selecting my mirror and running the upgrade command? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but I'm not clear at what point pacman is able to know what it's upgrading to.

no. just install normally the system(aif is using system pacman to sync and install packages). reboot and then after login, run pacman-db-upgrade.

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 15:26:11

@skunktrader:

It's not a mirror thing regardless. I had tried other mirrors, and just tried the ece.vt.edu one as well. Still the same result.

error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from mirror.ece.vt.edu : Not Found

I should add that I was able to run the pacman-db-upgrade command successfully after I updated the live environment. Still no dice on the install though.

commonmanthemes · 2011-03-26 15:27:50

@wonder:

I'm not sure you're following me. There is no way to "install the system normally and reboot" at this point.

bangkok_manouel · 2011-03-26 15:31:16

can you edit pacman.conf and let it use wget instead? maybe we'll see the URL and that could give us a clue on why it's not found.

JokerBoy · 2011-03-26 15:31:19

did you tried using http://mirrors.kernel.org? 'cause that installation I did earlier in VBox was using http://mirrors.kernel.org and I didn't had any issues at selecting packages.

wonder · 2011-03-26 15:41:44

@commonmanthemes trust me. it works.

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