[SOLVED] getting back to gnome2 from gnome3

jayveesea · 2011-04-08 02:31:24

i followed the instructions here...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_3

...to upgrade from gnome2 to gnome3. which worked great. but now i have come to the conclusion that i don't like gnome3.

what is the best way to remove gnome3 and reinstall gnome2? or is gnome2 still installed?

so far i have removed gnome-shell...
sudo pacman -Rcns gnome-shell

but this does not get me back to the complete gnome2 environment.

thanks,
j

Last edited by jayveesea (2011-04-09 12:42:08)

mcmillan · 2011-04-08 04:36:35

You should still have the old packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg and can downgrade, looking at the pacman log to see what got upgraded. I'm not a gnome user so I don't know how messy that may be though.

ngoonee · 2011-04-08 05:05:00

I'd advise not to bother, gnome3 is coming soon to [extra] in any case after a little while spent in testing. If you really dislike gnome3 you may want to think about just using XFCE or similar.

astenorh · 2011-04-08 06:47:15

Try disabling the [Testing] repository, and then update using "pacman -Syuu"

Vamp898 · 2011-04-08 08:56:33

-u, --sysupgrade
Upgrades all packages that are out of date. Each currently-installed package will be examined and upgraded if a newer package exists. A report of all packages to upgrade will be presented
and the operation will not proceed without user confirmation. Dependencies are automatically resolved at this level and will be installed/upgraded if necessary. Pass this option twice to
enable package downgrade; in this case pacman will select sync packages whose version does not match with the local version. This can be useful when the user switches from a testing repo to
a stable one. Additional targets can also be specified manually, so that -Su foo will do a system upgrade and install/upgrade the foo package in the same operation.

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Włóczymyśl · 2011-04-08 09:01:27

ngoonee wrote:

I'd advise not to bother, gnome3 is coming soon to [extra] in any case after a little while spent in testing. If you really dislike gnome3 you may want to think about just using XFCE or similar.

How long will that time be? I want to switch to Gnome 3 but I don't want to bother with [testing].

Vamp898 · 2011-04-08 09:11:49

Włóczymyśl wrote:

ngoonee wrote:
I'd advise not to bother, gnome3 is coming soon to [extra] in any case after a little while spent in testing. If you really dislike gnome3 you may want to think about just using XFCE or similar.
How long will that time be? I want to switch to Gnome 3 but I don't want to bother with [testing].

There is also the gnome-unstable repository which just contains that GNOME Version right now

ngoonee · 2011-04-08 09:22:30

Vamp898 wrote:

Włóczymyśl wrote:
ngoonee wrote:
I'd advise not to bother, gnome3 is coming soon to [extra] in any case after a little while spent in testing. If you really dislike gnome3 you may want to think about just using XFCE or similar.
How long will that time be? I want to switch to Gnome 3 but I don't want to bother with [testing].
There is also the gnome-unstable repository which just contains that GNOME Version right now

If I"m not wrong that repo is now empty, everything has been moved to [testing].

And to the previous poster, just wait for a while. It'll move when its ready.

Vamp898 · 2011-04-08 11:12:57

anyway. GNOME2 is dead, no reason to use it.

It died with the birth of GNOME3.

Some people started a fork and throw everything away when they accepted that this is nonsense

ariel · 2011-04-08 12:19:45

ngoonee wrote:

I'd advise not to bother, gnome3 is coming soon to [extra] in any case after a little while spent in testing. If you really dislike gnome3 you may want to think about just using XFCE or similar.

do you know when will it happen?

Ramses de Norre · 2011-04-08 12:27:42

ariel wrote:

ngoonee wrote:
I'd advise not to bother, gnome3 is coming soon to [extra] in any case after a little while spent in testing. If you really dislike gnome3 you may want to think about just using XFCE or similar.
do you know when will it happen?

Please, at least bother to read the previous posts first. Especially in a small thread like this one.

ngoonee wrote:

Vamp898 wrote:
Włóczymyśl wrote:
How long will that time be? I want to switch to Gnome 3 but I don't want to bother with [testing].
There is also the gnome-unstable repository which just contains that GNOME Version right now
If I"m not wrong that repo is now empty, everything has been moved to [testing].
And to the previous poster, just wait for a while. It'll move when its ready.

ariel · 2011-04-08 12:49:00

ok, sorry.
I haven't saw this because this thread had been opened for a while in my computer before I wrote my post.

crocowhile · 2011-04-08 20:15:14

I guess it's going to be many of us on the same boat this week. Gnome3 is painfully slow on my system, both with nvidia a nouveau drivers. Also, I miss all compiz features. too bad.
Uncomment the testing repo from pacman.conf again and then do a

sudo pacman -Syuuf

mythus · 2011-04-08 20:30:19

I am using nvidia drivers and find gnome 3 blazingly fast. I also deleted the gconf and gconfd folders, so I basically had a new installation (similar to what is done by most when updating KDE4), so maybe that has something to do with it.

Gnome3 is a different way of doing things. For some, it will suck. For others, it will rock. For the rest... they'll hate it at first and love it later.

If I had tried Gnome 3 even a year ago, I would have hated it. But, since my computing habits have changed, it simply rocks. Though of course, that could be the newness factor.....

Sawk · 2011-04-08 22:26:17

gnome3 is not stable, exactly as it was for first kde4 release. Adding it on stable repository could be a mistake. Nvidia drivers have problems with it and fallback mode just doesnt work with compiz as well. Also it's pretty unstable without it too.

I dont want to use nothing else except gnome2 and I always used it. What can i do ? change distro ?

swathe · 2011-04-08 23:05:50

crocowhile wrote:

I guess it's going to be many of us on the same boat this week. Gnome3 is painfully slow on my system, both with nvidia a nouveau drivers. Also, I miss all compiz features. too bad.
Uncomment the testing repo from pacman.conf again and then do a
sudo pacman -Syuuf

This worked perfectly for me

wonder · 2011-04-08 23:14:09

-Syuuf is wrong and nobody should use it. NOBODY

swathe · 2011-04-08 23:15:27

I am doing a fresh install in the next few days so doesn't bother me too much

stILLlearning · 2011-04-09 00:22:52

Vamp898 wrote:

anyway. GNOME2 is dead, no reason to use it.
It died with the birth of GNOME3.
Some people started a fork and throw everything away when they accepted that this is nonsense

Gnome3 keeps going into fallback mode for me. Do I just wait or ... ?

jayveesea · 2011-04-09 00:56:05

just out of curiosity, why is...

sudo pacman -Syuuf

...wrong??? it worked for me as well.

the intention of this post was to establish the correct way of going back to gnome2. i too am having problems with nvidia, extreme slowness, and my audio is all distorted (not to mention i am not fond of the new interface). i am guessing there will be others who want to return to gnome2, so i think it would be helpful to establish the correct way (since i could not find an existing post). i'll wait for any more comments before i tag this as solved.

thanks for the help,
-j

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swathe · 2011-04-09 01:24:03

Reasons I rolled back:
-Hate the interface
-Pulse audio killed my sound in steam
-laggy graphics performance and screen tearing

I'm running an Nvidia GTS250 and a AMD 1055T hex core cpu with 4g ram.

my0pic · 2011-04-09 01:48:05

jayveesea wrote:

just out of curiosity, why is...
sudo pacman -Syuuf
...wrong??? it worked for me as well.
the intention of this post was to establish the correct way of going back to gnome2. i too am having problems with nvidia, extreme slowness, and my audio is all distorted (not to mention i am not fond of the new interface). i am guessing there will be others who want to return to gnome2, so i think it would be helpful to establish the correct way (since i could not find an existing post). i'll wait for any more comments before i tag this as solved.
thanks for the help,
-j

the correct way is

sudo pacman -Syuu

Using the force parameter will

Bypass file conflict checks and overwrite conflicting files. If the package that is about to be installed
contains files that are already installed, this option will cause all those files to be overwritten. This option
should be used with care, ideally not at all.

swathe · 2011-04-09 01:56:01

I knew using the f was a risk but as I mentioned I am formatting soon anyway so was prepared to take the risk. Were I not formatting already I wouldn't have used it and removed gnome completely and then re-installed it.

crocowhile · 2011-04-09 09:04:07

wonder wrote:

-Syuuf is wrong and nobody should use it. NOBODY

True. It is meant to be used in conditions like this one though: you upgrade something and you revert it immediately after.

ngoonee · 2011-04-09 12:27:22

crocowhile wrote:

wonder wrote:
-Syuuf is wrong and nobody should use it. NOBODY
True. It is meant to be used in conditions like this one though: you upgrade something and you revert it immediately after.

It may overwrite something else you don't want it to overwrite...

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