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#1 2011-05-22 06:10:57

ashwin
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Registered: 2011-05-22
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Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

FInally installed Arch and now facng minor issues:

I've installed GNOME {wanted to install KDE but that thing required 1 GB install and 2GB disksapce so went with GNOME.}
I've added

dbus

to

/etc/rc.conf

and also added

 exec ck-launch-session gnome-session

on the initrc file on the non root login I'd created but the darned GNOME doesn't start up at boot time.
I have to log in with the user id and then type :

 xinit gnome-session

each time to get GNOME working.

Can't fiigure out the thing that I'm missing out on! Also how to setup/configure AUR? I don't seem to be able to get that thing on the Beginners Guide chalked out!

Please help.

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#2 2011-05-22 06:17:50

nixfag
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From: Romania
Registered: 2011-03-03
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

For your GNOME issue,you may want to read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_Boot
And you may want to install GDM,look at this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GDM
And about the AUR,you should read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR

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#3 2011-05-22 07:17:58

ashwin
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

@nixfag: thanks for those links.

well I'd downloaded GDM but didn't add

 x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/gdm -nodaemon

to the

/etc/inittab

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#4 2011-05-22 08:26:09

zyxon
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

I generally prefer starting GDM the daemon way, it's less elegant, but the other one never worked for me. Just make sure the GDM is installed, and put it in the daemons array in rc.conf.

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#5 2011-05-24 02:34:55

ashwin
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

I've noticed that while my Arch boots up, it waits for about 5-10 seconds to get the networking set up {don't remember the exact message right now}
I feel that it is due to this line in my /etc/rc.conf

DAEMONS=(syslog -ng dbus network netfs crond)

Now I was wondering if it would be alright to make the 'network' a background process i.e, change my /etc/rc.conf to

DAEMONS=(syslog -ng dbus @network netfs crond)

This way I can perhaps avoid that 5 second waiting period during boot time. But is that advisable?

Last edited by ashwin (2011-05-24 02:36:47)

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#6 2011-05-24 11:36:14

nixfag
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

hey,your DAEMONS array looks wrong,there should be no whitespace between syslog and -ng.

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#7 2011-05-24 12:15:46

elliott
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

ashwin wrote:

I've noticed that while my Arch boots up, it waits for about 5-10 seconds to get the networking set up {don't remember the exact message right now}
I feel that it is due to this line in my /etc/rc.conf

DAEMONS=(syslog -ng dbus network netfs crond)

Now I was wondering if it would be alright to make the 'network' a background process i.e, change my /etc/rc.conf to

DAEMONS=(syslog -ng dbus @network netfs crond)

This way I can perhaps avoid that 5 second waiting period during boot time. But is that advisable?

You can background it if you aren't loading any daemon which will need a net connection at boot. Another option is set it up for static IP, it is the DHCP process that takes the most time, a static IP should cut it down to 1-2 seconds.

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#8 2011-05-24 13:30:53

Czarcasmo
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From: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Registered: 2011-04-20
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

The only way I can consistently get GNOME to start is by putting gdm in the DAEMONS array, typically at the end. nixfag also had a good catch in that it should be syslog-ng, no space between syslog and -ng.


Laptop: Lenovo X1 Carbon, Core i7 2.0Ghz, 8GB RAM, Gnome 3.16

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#9 2011-05-29 12:43:46

ashwin
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

I'll modify the /etc/rc.conf to make the net as a background process.

but I'm also facing another small hurdle.

I wanted to install MPlayer . After resolving some dependencies, I get a message saying the total download size is 8MB. When I type 'Y' to continue install, it proceeds for a while and then displays a message saying some of the files are not available.

After a little while, when I try to install it again, I get the same message. Can you guys please help me out!


[root@arch ashwin]# pacman -S mplayer
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (20): libmng-1.0.10-3  talloc-2.0.5-1  cifs-utils-4.9-3  smbclient-3.5.8-3  gpm-1.20.6-6  aalib-1.4rc5-8  giflib-4.1.6-4
              imlib2-1.4.4-1  libcaca-0.99.beta17-1  libmp4v2-1.9.1-1  faac-1.28-2  libftdi-0.18-2  libirman-0.4.5-2
              lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-2  recode-3.6-6  enca-1.13-1  libdca-0.0.5-2  a52dec-0.7.4-5  fribidi-0.19.2-1  mplayer-33159-1

Total Download Size:    0.04 MB
Total Installed Size:   106.70 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages from extra...
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirrors.163.com : Not Found
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from archlinux.limun.org : Not Found
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in : Not Found
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from archlinux.cbn.net.id : Connection timed out
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.unej.ac.id : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp : Not Found
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.svk.su : No address record
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.tku.edu.tw : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.cs.vt.edu : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.cs.vt.edu : Not Found
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirrors.easynews.com : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from mirrors.gigenet.com : Not Found
error: failed retrieving file 'libftdi-0.18-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
warning: failed to retrieve some files from extra
error: failed to commit transaction (File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access))
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

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#10 2011-05-29 13:19:49

martinoff
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

try first to update

 pacman -Syyyy mplayer 

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#11 2011-06-25 17:53:22

ashwin
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

Yet another Question: 

I have Arch with GNOME-3 and now I want to try out KDE. How can I make the switch? And is it possible to have a menu driven options when I log in to allow me to use KDE or GNOME? (something like what we have with bootloader?)

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#12 2011-06-25 18:10:49

gamer01
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Registered: 2011-06-02
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

i dont know exactly how to install and confiure it in arch, but both, kdm and gdm, have the possibity to chose the environment (there is a menue in the gui, just search)

i would try to install kde just with

pacman -S kde

and try if gdm has recogniced the installation (try also after a reboot)

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#13 2011-06-25 21:51:10

ewaller
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Registered: 2009-07-13
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

Emphasis added:

gamer01 wrote:

i dont know exactly how to install and confiure it in arch, but both, kdm and gdm, have the possibity to chose the environment (there is a menue in the gui, just search)

i would try to install kde just with

pacman -S kde

and try if gdm has recogniced the installation (try also after a reboot)

I despise the word "Just"

That command will "Just" pull in everyting kde.  This includes all the game, educational, graphics, artwork, accessibility tools,  -- Everything


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#14 2011-06-25 22:02:38

ewaller
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Registered: 2009-07-13
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Re: Minor issues with a first time Arch Install

Moderator note:

Welcome to Arch.

The initial topic title is not helpful to anyone else having problems as they have no way to determine if their problems are, or are not the same as your problem. 
This thread is now going onto it's  third problem, which also makes it irrelevant to others in the future.

Please:
1. Change the title (edit your first post) to reflect your first question.
2.  If the first question is solved, indicate so by adding [SOLVED] to the title.
3. Split out the KDE question as a separate thread.  But use caution, the Answers to that one are available here and on the wiki -- So make sure your question indicates you have researched how to install KDE in harmony with other environments.

I am leaving this thread open so it can be wrapped up in a clean manner, but I will close it if it diverges further from the first topic.

Thanks
ewaller

Last edited by ewaller (2011-06-25 22:03:55)


Nothing is too wonderful to be true, if it be consistent with the laws of nature -- Michael Faraday
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