[solved] oga or ogg

x33a · 2011-06-13 07:10:17

Hello folks

For the first time i am trying to encode my music in the ogg vorbis format, instead of mp3. I have some flac files which i would like to convert, but i am confused as to which extension to use: ogg or oga.

I have read this: http://wiki.xiph.org/MIME_Types_and_Fil … udio.2Fogg

And searched around the net, a bit. I couldn't really find much references to oga.
oga seems more logical and easier to identify as an audio file. Also, ogg might be deprecated in the future (My guess).

What do you people suggest i use, oga or ogg.

Last edited by x33a (2014-01-23 05:53:12)

Army · 2011-06-13 08:11:28

Actually I never came across an oga file. But there are ogv video files out there. What you say makes sense imo. The only thing that could happen is, that some audio players identify the encoding format by the file extension, so it might be possible that some won't play oga files, although they are able to play the vorbis format.

stqn · 2011-06-13 19:21:41

Just use .ogg like everybody else . I think the standard for videos is .ogm, though I might have seen .ogv too, but (almost) no-one uses the ogg container for videos anyway.

Edit : when I write "the standard" I really mean "what I've seen in the wild".

Edit: also, the xiph.org page is quite clear : you should use ".ogg" for vorbis audio.

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Rasi · 2011-06-13 19:33:58

stqn wrote:

Just use .ogg like everybody else . I think the standard for videos is .ogm, though I might have seen .ogv too, but (almost) no-one uses the ogg container for videos anyway.
Edit : when I write "the standard" I really mean "what I've seen in the wild".
Edit: also, the xiph.org page is quite clear : you should use ".ogg" for vorbis audio.

ogm is totally unsupported. It was a hack, created, before the video part of the ogg specs was finished.

jasonwryan · 2011-06-13 19:35:50

stqn wrote:

Edit: also, the xiph.org page is quite clear : you should use ".ogg" for vorbis audio.

Actually, it says:

.ogg has more recently also been used for Ogg FLAC and for Theora, too — these uses are deprecated now in favor of .oga and .ogv respectively

GogglesGuy · 2011-06-13 20:53:44

jasonwryan wrote:

stqn wrote:
Edit: also, the xiph.org page is quite clear : you should use ".ogg" for vorbis audio.
Actually, it says:
.ogg has more recently also been used for Ogg FLAC and for Theora, too — these uses are deprecated now in favor of .oga and .ogv respectively

Yes, hence for Ogg Vorbis you use .ogg and for Ogg Flac .oga. On the other hand, you should to just use the native flac container for flac.

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x33a · 2011-06-14 06:28:37

GogglesGuy wrote:

Yes, hence for Ogg Vorbis you use .ogg and for Ogg Flac .oga. On the other hand, you should to just use the native flac container for flac.

So since I am converting flac to vorbis, and not ogg flac, i should go for .ogg.

Now I understand it a bit, thanks to you guys. Who uses oggflac anyway?

I think I'll go for .ogg then.

Thanks to all.

GogglesGuy · 2011-06-14 14:22:30

x33a wrote:

GogglesGuy wrote:
Yes, hence for Ogg Vorbis you use .ogg and for Ogg Flac .oga. On the other hand, you should to just use the native flac container for flac.
So since I am converting flac to vorbis, and not ogg flac, i should go for .ogg.
Now I understand it a bit, thanks to you guys. Who uses oggflac anyway?

Not sure. Especially since the flac container does support things like cover art and queuesheets.

http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#ge … ive_vs_ogg

Last edited by GogglesGuy (2011-06-14 14:22:53)

Eishorn · 2011-06-14 18:06:05

The reason some people might want to use oggflac is the fact that they'll be able to play those files in itunes, which cannot (could not?) play normal flac files.

doorknob60 · 2011-06-16 06:42:43

Eishorn wrote:

The reason some people might want to use oggflac is the fact that they'll be able to play those files in itunes, which cannot (could not?) play normal flac files.

I'm pretty sure iTunes has never been able to play any type of OGG files, at least whenever I've tried to use it. It's open source, so naturally it makes sense for Apple to not support it

Awebb · 2011-06-16 08:03:04

doorknob60 wrote:

It's open source, so naturally it makes sense for Apple to not support it

Yes, that's why webkit and the OS X kernel are FOSS...

Eishorn · 2011-06-16 12:23:35

Don't know if you can play ogg files right away with itunes or need to install certain plugins or whatever - heard it from people using that kind of stuff, should have something to do with quicktime. (To get back on topic ) I for myself never came across a good reason to use oggflac. Since x33a's first question is answered, we shouldn't continue worrying about apple here

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