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#201 2011-09-18 11:15:25

kahlil88
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

When updates cause problems, the first place to look would be the pacman update log: /var/log/pacman.log
What server(s) are you guys using for the Mate repo? I run a pacman update every day and haven't received any new Mate packages since late August. Here's the mate section of my pacman.conf:

[mate]
Server = http://germ.winpe.com/archlinux/mate/$arch
Server = http://cptl.org/mate/$arch
Server = http://matsusoft.com.ar/repository/archlinux/mate/$arch

Last edited by kahlil88 (2011-09-18 11:16:00)


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#202 2011-09-18 11:18:09

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

As of 25th August, cptl.org is out of date. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE
http://germ.winpe.com/archlinux/mate/ has packages updated on 2nd Sept.

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#203 2011-09-18 11:24:01

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

karol wrote:

As of 25th August, cptl.org is out of date. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE
http://germ.winpe.com/archlinux/mate/ has packages updated on 2nd Sept.

Which is why I put germ.winpe.com at the top. I figure it doesn't hurt to keep the other mirrors in there in case they do happen to update.


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#204 2011-09-18 13:17:01

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

kahlil88 wrote:

When updates cause problems, the first place to look would be the pacman update log: /var/log/pacman.log
What server(s) are you guys using for the Mate repo? I run a pacman update every day and haven't received any new Mate packages since late August. Here's the mate section of my pacman.conf:

[mate]
Server = http://germ.winpe.com/archlinux/mate/$arch
Server = http://cptl.org/mate/$arch
Server = http://matsusoft.com.ar/repository/archlinux/mate/$arch

Thanks. Dont know why I didn't think of that. Re-installed libtool, libltdl lib32-libltdl and all sweet now. Feel a bit embarrassed to cause bother now...

Also I'm using the repo @ winpe.com. Nice and fast.

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#205 2011-09-19 06:16:57

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

@Perberos: If you're interested in supporting the PPC architecture, I've been compiling Mate on my iMac G3 (450MHz, 256MB PC100 SDRAM, a real beast) using PKGBUILDs from the AUR but I don't have a server to host the packages on. Running into a few compile errors here and there, but most all the core packages (the ones that depend on mate-desktop-environment) are done and I can run Mate.

Last edited by kahlil88 (2011-09-20 05:18:22)


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#206 2011-09-21 13:19:25

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Hello ,

is there any fix for what im facing with mate`s installation ?

http://pastie.org/2568324

Regards,

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#207 2011-09-21 14:35:50

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#208 2011-09-21 14:52:47

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

What does pacman -Qo /usr/bin/activation-client say?


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#209 2011-09-21 17:39:50

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

saleem wrote:

Hello ,

is there any fix for what im facing with mate`s installation ?

http://pastie.org/2568324

Regards,

Originally the instructions that worked for me were:

pacman -Sff mate-desktop-environment

From post #6 of this thread.

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#210 2011-09-22 00:52:56

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

I thought fans of Gnome 2 might enjoy this article about no less than Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, expressing his complete dissatisfaction with Gnome 3 and calling for a Gnome fork. He does not mince words:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News … for-Linux/

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#211 2011-09-22 00:56:40

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

cb474 wrote:

I thought fans of Gnome 2 might enjoy this article about no less than Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, expressing his complete dissatisfaction with Gnome 3 and calling for a Gnome fork. He does not mince words:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News … for-Linux/

Yup, we know: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 05#p980205

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#212 2011-09-22 00:57:50

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

cb474 wrote:

I thought fans of Gnome 2 might enjoy this article about no less than Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, expressing his complete dissatisfaction with Gnome 3 and calling for a Gnome fork. He does not mince words:

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News … for-Linux/

That's old news, but I wonder if Linus knows about the Mate project


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#213 2011-09-22 01:00:52

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

kahlil88 wrote:

That's old news, but I wonder if Linus knows about the Mate project

Yes, I see now that it is. I guess I'm behind the times.

Anyway, if a lot of developers share Torvalds sentiments, as he says they do, I'm hoping that means that Mate or something like it will eventually get a lot of support and some real momentum behind it. Thanks, again, Perberos, for bringing us Mate.

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#214 2011-09-22 05:11:21

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

cb474 wrote:
kahlil88 wrote:

That's old news, but I wonder if Linus knows about the Mate project

Yes, I see now that it is. I guess I'm behind the times.

Anyway, if a lot of developers share Torvalds sentiments, as he says they do, I'm hoping that means that Mate or something like it will eventually get a lot of support and some real momentum behind it. Thanks, again, Perberos, for bringing us Mate.

I don't really foresee developers like Linus working on a DE smile. Here's hoping for a bright future for Mate, eventually.


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#215 2011-09-22 06:26:12

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

ngoonee wrote:

I don't really foresee developers like Linus working on a DE smile. Here's hoping for a bright future for Mate, eventually.

You never know though...it might at least get good publicity if Linus Torvalds started using it.


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#216 2011-09-22 11:27:40

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Really great work Perberos! Only bad thing is that scripts can't install themes to make them work, for example Elegant Gnome sad

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#217 2011-09-22 20:39:16

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

DisturbedFood wrote:

Really great work Perberos! Only bad thing is that scripts can't install themes to make them work, for example Elegant Gnome sad

What was the error? Is it because of zenity?

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#218 2011-09-22 20:58:54

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

ngoonee wrote:

I don't really foresee developers like Linus working on a DE smile. Here's hoping for a bright future for Mate, eventually.

Yes, I didn't imagine that. I just thought if he's not happy with Gnome 3 and he claims in the article that pretty much all other developers he's been talking to don't like it either, that perhaps that suggests there is some broad interest out there in the developer community for a fork. I know many people have come to like Gnome 3, so I'm not trying to restart that beaten to death debate. I'm just hoping the interest is there to also have continued and growing support for a Gnome 2 fork like Mate. It seems like the opinions of the creator himself of Linux might have some relevance in this area.

Thanks again Perberos!

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#219 2011-09-24 02:28:01

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Running into problems compiling mate-character-map on my iMac G3:

/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-block-chapters-model.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-block-codepoint-list.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-chapters-model.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-chapters-view.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-charmap.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-chartable-accessible.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-chartable-cell-accessible.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-chartable.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-codepoint-list.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-init.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-script-chapters-model.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-script-codepoint-list.o: File format not recognized
/usr/bin/nm: .libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-unicode-info.o: File format not recognized
.libs/libgucharmap_la-gucharmap-block-chapters-model.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libgucharmap.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/kahlil/Downloads/mate/build/mate-character-map/src/mate-character-map/gucharmap'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kahlil/Downloads/mate/build/mate-character-map/src/mate-character-map/gucharmap'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kahlil/Downloads/mate/build/mate-character-map/src/mate-character-map'
make: *** [all] Error 2

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#220 2011-09-24 04:51:29

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

add "make clean" before make line
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Need to run pacman -S libltdl libtool after last update arch.

Last edited by Perberos (2011-09-24 11:08:13)

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#221 2011-09-24 12:12:56

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Perberos wrote:

add "make clean" before make line

Thanks, compiled like a charm. Running into errors with mate-video-player though:

checking GStreamer 0.10 goom plugin... no
configure: error:
Cannot find required GStreamer-0.10 plugin 'goom'
It should be part of gst-plugins-good. Please install it.

I have gstreamer0.10-good and gstreamer0.10-gst-good-plugins both installed and I've never heard of the 'goom' plugin. Also having problems compiling mate-system-monitor. Was able to compile, make and install it on my iMac G3 but on my PC running Arch x86_64 I've been getting this error:

libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libgio-2.0.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libgio-2.0.la'

Last edited by kahlil88 (2011-09-24 13:11:14)


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#222 2011-09-24 14:56:05

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Check this out: bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=127043. I've got all that "Avahi" stuff which:

  • won't start,

  • I didn't order and

  • I pretty much doubt I can uninstall.

Any solutions?

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#223 2011-09-24 15:29:59

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

AFAIK Avahi is required. I never wanted to install it too but it got installed anyway. Best you can do is edit your menu (or Avahi's .desktop file) to hide it from the menu. Those .desktop files can be found in /usr/share/applications/

To hide them, add NoDisplay=true


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#224 2011-09-24 16:17:29

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Mkay.

Also, I don't think I like the idea of the system trying to track what I'm doing, i.e. that "Recent Documents" thing. Any way to turn it completely off?

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#225 2011-09-25 11:33:09

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

By the way, is it possible to creat packages, which would not conflict with the gnome-packages from [extra]? Because that would be great!

Last edited by Kopfweh (2011-09-25 19:50:18)

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