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nepjua

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Registered: 2011-08-06

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installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

Hello, i'm trying to use archlinux for a long time, but my notebook overheating with default drivers. My notebook has ATI 4650. When i try to install arch linux my notebook shuts down because of overheating while installing kernel packages. I even tried to put my computer to fridge it didn't work. I need to load kernel with catalyst drivers to install (I need a customized iso i guess). Please help me i wanna be an Archer so much

ANOKNUSA

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Registered: 2010-10-22

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Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

The installation .iso doesn't feature a graphical environment, which means it doesn't have a graphics card driver, so your problem is related to something else.  If you have an AMD processor, try loading the powernow-k8 module, which controls cpu scaling;  if you have a different brand, you'll need a different module.

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karol

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Registered: 2009-05-06

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Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

Hello, i'm trying to use archlinux for a long time, but my notebook overheating with default drivers. My notebook has ATI 4650. When i try to install arch linux my notebook shuts down because of overheating while installing kernel packages. I even tried to put my computer to fridge it didn't work. I need to load kernel with catalyst drivers to install (I need a customized iso i guess). Please help me i wanna be an Archer so much

Are you trying to install Arch from another system that you already have installed on your notebook?

nepjua

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Registered: 2011-08-06

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Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

no I'm trying to install with normal way. I'm having same problem with other distros too. It doesn't shut down when installing other distros because it doesn't took so long to heat that much. @ANOKNUSA i have intel processor, I'm quite sure that it's not about my processor. I'm always having overheating until i install proprietary graphics drivers. I managed to install Chakra because it loaded catalyst drivers during the boot process. I installed Chakra and i changed it's configures to convert it into Archlinux. But package versions made trouble :S I didn't like Chakra.

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Cdh

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Registered: 2009-02-03

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Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

You could try setting it to low power mode with the open source driver.

First, look if  /sys/kernel/debug is empty.
If it is, then as root:

mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug

Then as root again:

echo profile > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

I believe that should work from CLI-only too. But it may require a newer kernel than the one on the image (don't know what kernel the install image is at). If it doesn't work then you can use the not so official archboot image: https://downloads.archlinux.de/iso/archboot/latest

But when it is while kernel install it sounds more to me as if the CPU was too hot since building the initramfs is only CPU intensive...

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nepjua

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Registered: 2011-08-06

Posts: 5

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

You could try setting it to low power mode with the open source driver.

First, look if  /sys/kernel/debug is empty.
If it is, then as root:

mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug

Then as root again:

echo profile > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

I believe that should work from CLI-only too. But it may require a newer kernel than the one on the image (don't know what kernel the install image is at). If it doesn't work then you can use the not so official archboot image: https://downloads.archlinux.de/iso/archboot/latest

But when it is while kernel install it sounds more to me as if the CPU was too hot since building the initramfs is only CPU intensive...

Thanks. I will try these soon. I think GPU overheats then CPU makes the final straw during kernel install.

Cdh

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Registered: 2009-02-03

Posts: 1,098

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

As they are often cooled with only one fan that is quite possible. Though I wonder how this is possible at all. Isn't the BIOS controlling the fan and if the thermal design of the laptop isn't completely broken shouldn't it even with everything on full power and heating keep being cool enaugh?

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nepjua

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Registered: 2011-08-06

Posts: 5

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

Doesn't matter what i do with CPU, there is no problem at all. But when it comes to graphics it overheats. Even on ATI's precious Windows when i play a game it heats and after some time temperature rises to 90 C degrees and shuts down. Apparently it has awful thermal design. Fan can cool down CPU but not GPU :S

Last edited by nepjua (2011-08-06 22:25:54)

keenerd

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Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

Enable up the [catalyst] repository.  Details are on the wiki.  My AMD systems have worked flawlessly with it.

delained306

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Registered: 2011-03-10

Posts: 3

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

just save up for a laptop fan, there pretty cheap and will help i had a acer that did the same. it's more or less that its been used and is dirty and not really the cards fault it may just need a decent clean or better yet you may need a knew lappy.

nepjua

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Registered: 2011-08-06

Posts: 5

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

I guess i should take it to service

delained306

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Registered: 2011-03-10

Posts: 3

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

just buy some frostbite thermal grease and add it too you card. but getting to you cardi n the lappy will be a task all in it's own. mainly i think the problem is that either two things are happing the fan soley trying to cool the system may be running lower or dust bunnines have taking up shop and created a vast landscape over you board and just remove with canned air or somethinting like so that should help. The laptop cooling fan will work best though.

jaxxed

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Registered: 2012-04-21

Posts: 8

Re: installing archlinux with catalyst drivers

First, look if  /sys/kernel/debug is empty.
If it is, then as root:

mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug

Is there any reason why this would fail for me:

[jaxxed@#### /]$ su - root
Password:
[root@#### ~]# mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug
mount: /sys/kernel/debug: mount failed: Invalid argument

FYI- I am using an arch based distro (chakra), but I assumed that this was low-level enough that it shouldn't matter too much.

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