Possible to have a minimal qt-only desktop?

Japanlinux · 2011-08-26 04:16:30

I'm a fan of KDE and qt, but KDE is noticably sluggish on my netbook, so I thought I'd try going the lightweight route. Rather than going to openbox, which I've used before, I wanted to try the challenge of getting a qt-based system. Particularly, I'd like to see if I could manage a qt-LXDE style system, but void of gtk, gnome, or kde dependencies.

LXDE system:
1. gpicview
2. lxpanel
3. lxterminal
4. pcmanfm
5. lxdm
6. openbox
7. lxmenu-data
8. lxrandr
9. lxsession
10. lxtask
11. lxde-common
12. lxde-icon-theme
13. lxappearance

QT system:
1. qiviewer (AUR)
2. qtpanel (AUR)
3. SUGGESTIONS?
4. qtfm
5. cdm (AUR)
6. Razor-qt
7. ^ has a menu, so I assume this would be in razor...
8. refer to #3 I doubt there is a qt gui for this
9. razor would take care of this?
10. SUGGESTIONS?
11. don't need to worry about this
12. favorite icon set
13. SUGGESTIONS?

I'd appreciate any help/discussion

Last edited by Japanlinux (2011-08-26 04:16:52)

dodo3773 · 2011-08-26 06:04:41

3. rxvt-unicode (pretty sure the dependencies are very few) or of course xterm
10. htop works great for a task manager in my opinion
13. qtconfig

jiyuu · 2011-08-26 11:51:56

You're missing a WM. Razor-qt seems to be a collection of add-on to the WM.
If you want a wm written in qt, there exists AnticoWM but it incorporates panel, menu and manages icon on the desktop.
For a terminal, there is Qterminal.

Unfortunaly these two projects seem to not be developed anymore.

PIMPinator · 2011-08-26 13:42:58

There is a thread over at chakra-project.org where someone has made a new WM called RWM using code from the unmaintained AnticoWM. The thread is at http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=4789 and it appears that it is usable though not considered stable.

ANOKNUSA · 2011-08-26 19:07:55

jiyuu wrote:

You're missing a WM. Razor-qt seems to be a collection of add-on to the WM.
If you want a wm written in qt, there exists AnticoWM but it incorporates panel, menu and manages icon on the desktop.
For a terminal, there is Qterminal.
Unfortunaly these two projects seem to not be developed anymore.

I believe eggwm might still be in development, and their homepage contains info on themes and such.`Of course, while I can't speak for floating WMs, the tiling WMs I've seen don't rely on any particular toolkit, and at least Awesome and WMFS (possibly Subtle, as well) can be used as regular floateers with titlebars. As far as themes and other aesthetics go, both Bespin and Oxygen have stand-alone configuration apps, and you can then apply the themes through qtconfig. I'm really not sure how to change icon themes for stand-alone Qt apps; that's something I wouldn't mind learning myself.

Gusar · 2011-08-26 19:13:05

Openbox doesn't rely on any toolkit either. So Japanlinux, you could simply continue with that. I had a look at the Razor page, it says even there that most Razor devs use openbox. If you prefer a classic style floating window manager, openbox is really, really good.

Japanlinux · 2011-08-26 19:53:01

hmmm. I never realized that openbox doesn't rely on the toolkits. Always assumed it used gtk. I'll try out RWM and eggwm and use openbox as a backup if I don't like either or if they are too unstable. I'll be testing this all out on my netbook today, so I'll see what works and what I'm missing then. perhaps I'll get a screenshot of this to share too.

karabaja4 · 2011-08-26 20:06:28

I too prefer QT, and tried to eliminate GTK2, but I wasn't able to find a replacement for the following GTK2 apps:

1) Browser (Chromium, Firefox, Flashplugin - all GTK2 dependant). Arora isn't quite my favorite.
2) Filezilla
3) Gimp
4) VMware Workstation

Japanlinux · 2011-08-26 20:09:43

Karabaja: I refer you to this post from Chakra: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=5473

They have this bundle system which creates isolates gtk apps so it keeps your system clean. I would imagine that this would solve 1-3 for you (and likely me ), though I'm not so sure about vmware...

cybertorture · 2011-08-26 20:09:44

filezilla is qt as far as i know

karabaja4 · 2011-08-26 20:12:38

Japanlinux wrote:

Karabaja: I refer you to this post from Chakra: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=5473
They have this bundle system which creates isolates gtk apps so it keeps your system clean. I would imagine that this would solve 1-3 for you (and likely me ), though I'm not so sure about vmware...

Interesting approach... will look into it

cybertorture wrote:

filezilla is qt as far as i know

It is not... it depends on wxwidgets which depends on gtk2.

Last edited by karabaja4 (2011-08-26 20:13:55)

wonder · 2011-08-26 20:14:17

karabaja4 wrote:

I too prefer QT, and tried to eliminate GTK2, but I wasn't able to find a replacement for the following GTK2 apps:
4) VMware Workstation

are you joking right? Ever heard of virtualbox?

karabaja4 · 2011-08-26 20:18:06

wonder wrote:

are you joking right? Ever heard of virtualbox?

It's not quite as good. It would pass as a replacement if I got rid of all the other GTK2 apps (then I would sacrifice VMware for VirtualBox), but for now I'm sticking to VMware.

Last edited by karabaja4 (2011-08-26 20:34:18)

Japanlinux · 2011-08-26 22:35:54

I can't seem to get razor-qt or razor-qt-git to install. Both have errors in build().... :\

cybertorture · 2011-08-27 02:07:55

Indeed i m mistaken filezilla for QT application, sorry about that was a shot in the dark.

remeh · 2011-08-27 16:37:03

Japanlinux : you just have to slightly modify the PKGBUILD of razor-qt-git.
line 12 looks like this :

'*wm: any WM should work, really')

Remove the * to fix, must looks like this :

'wm: any WM should work, really')

and line 9,

depends=('qt')

must be replaced by :

depends=('qt' 'cmake')

as you need cmake to compile.

So, a working PKGBUILD for razor-qt-git :

# Contributor: Kyle Keen
pkgname=razor-qt-git
pkgver=20110816
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="A complete WM/DE, at one time based on Anitco."
url="http://razor-qt.sf.net"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
license="GPL"
depends=('qt' 'cmake')
optdepends=('openbox: best supported WM'
            'eggwm: also well supported WM'
            'wm: any WM should work, really')
makedepends=('git')
source=()
md5sums=()

_gitroot="git://github.com/Razor-qt/razor-qt.git"
_gitname="razor-qt"

build() {
  cd "$srcdir"
  msg "Connecting to github..."

  if [ -d "$srcdir"/${_gitname} ] ; then
    cd ${_gitname} && git pull origin
    msg "The local files are updated."
  else
    git clone --depth 1 ${_gitroot}
  fi

  msg "GIT checkout done or server timeout"
  msg "Starting make..."

  cd "$srcdir/$_gitname"

  cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
  make
}

package() {
  cd "$srcdir/$_gitname"
  make DESTDIR="$pkgdir/" install
}

Last edited by remeh (2011-08-27 16:37:47)

karabaja4 · 2011-08-28 21:39:19

Japanlinux wrote:

Karabaja: I refer you to this post from Chakra: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=5473
They have this bundle system which creates isolates gtk apps so it keeps your system clean. I would imagine that this would solve 1-3 for you (and likely me ), though I'm not so sure about vmware...

Ok, I tried building this from git, but it seems that it depends on KDE4, which kinda destroys the whole point

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Possible to have a minimal qt-only desktop?

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