Trouble installing xorg! Drivers! Nvidia! Nouveau!

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-09 09:38:09

Hello, all!

I am a total noob that just started playing with command line.

Installed Arch on my desktop from a DVD. Dunno if this info on my desktop is helpful but here goes [/url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20073311/ForumDxDIagDesktop.odt[/url]

Installation fine, except after typing pacman -Syu, I got a xz conflicts with xz-utils. Remove xz-utils? <y> to which i replied y

I type pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit xorg-utils xorg-server-utils and startx but I get something along the lines of:

EE failed to loade module "nv" (modeule does not exist, 0)
EEfailed to loade module."nvidia"
EEfailed to loade module"vesa"
EEfailed to loade module."fbdev"
EE [drm] failed to opend evice
EE no devices detected

Oh an i also installed vesa with:
pacman -S xf86-video-vesa

So, where do you guys suggest I go from here? I played with it for a few hours, but didn't get too far.

Also, what log files might be usefull for me to paste?

Thanks!

Gusar · 2011-09-09 09:45:29

If that's all X related stuff you installed, you got everything but what you actually need. Which is the graphic card driver. So install either nvidia and nvidia-utils, or xf86-video-nouveau. And reboot. That's it.

No condescension meant, but I would really, really like to know what you've been doing for all those hours.

Ok, a bit more. What graphic card exactly do you have? Could be it's too new for nouveau (Fermi cards will only work out of the box with nouveau starting with kernel 3.1). And somehow I have the feeling you installed from some really old installation media. The xz-utils -> xz change happened a looooong time ago, definitely long before the current installation media, which is 2011.08.19

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cybertorture · 2011-09-09 10:18:22

"Installed Arch on my desktop from a DVD"
I never ever saw this happen.
About logs - dmesg is your friend, also lspci -vv, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
And yes which mirror you use ?

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-09 10:22:36

Oops ya sorry I did install nouveau with pacman -S xf86-video-nouveau

What have I been doing for all these hours? Learning how to navigate Bash, how to manipulate files and directories, how to search... I need to know how to make changes myself, right? Or do you suggest I just copy and paste stuff from forums?

Does this link I posted not have the info needed? I see I messed up the tag for this stuff I copied and pasted from DxDiag

I don't think it was old at all.

You wrote wrote:

. And somehow I have the feeling you installed from some really old installation media. The xz-utils -> xz change happened a looooong time ago, definitely long before the current installation media, which is 2011.08.19

20110819 is in fact the one I have installed.

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-09 10:32:04

cybertorture wrote:

"Installed Arch on my desktop from a DVD"
I never ever saw this happen.

I know crazy times, eh

I'm using the mirror which I thought was closest to me - I believe it's in waterloo. Does it make a difference? What is the difference?

Will post logs. Ty

Gusar · 2011-09-09 10:35:12

Word 2007 won't open that document and I don't have anything else installed that could open odt. As cybertorture says, lspci output would be nice. It would be enough to know if your card is too new for nouveau.

Try with nvidia. Uninstall xf86-video-nouveau, install nvidia and nvidia-utils, then reboot. If it won't work, post /var/log/Xorg.0.log

cybertorture · 2011-09-09 10:36:19

Well if it is outdated it matters
check here

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-09 10:45:57

it's a GeForce 7800 GT
ya mirror good tnx tho

Gusar · 2011-09-09 11:04:49

SCiiGIRL- wrote:

it's a GeForce 7800 GT

That should work with nouveau. Fermi cards (4xx and 5xx) don't yet. They will with kernel 3.1.

If nouveau doesn't work for oyu, the full X log would be nice. Also, are you in the video group? I thing nouveau should work even if you're not, but it's definitely necessary for 3d acceleration with it.

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-11 04:14:07

Hey sorry here is the link to some my info in rtf format instead: DxDiagMyDesktop

Hope it helps.

okay so apart from x log what other og should I post? (will post x log shortly)

lifeafter2am · 2011-09-11 04:39:43

SCiiGIRL- wrote:

Hey sorry here is the link to some my info in rtf format instead: DxDiagMyDesktop
Hope it helps.
okay so apart from x log what other og should I post? (will post x log shortly)

That and possibly the dmesg output (at least the relevant parts).

RTFs are kind of a pain too, you could always post stuff to pastebin.

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-11 04:47:08

nice thanks testing pastebin 1.. 2.. 3...

DxDiagInfoDesktop

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-11 04:48:03

DxDiagInfoDesktop

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-11 04:48:47

aha! There! I fell 0.001% less noob!
cheers!

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-12 08:36:50

here are the logs:

/var/log/Xorg.0.log
/var/log/dmesg.log

Thank you all

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-12 08:40:07

oh and i re-installed and installed nouveau
when i type xstart, i just get a black screen peppered by pixelation

Okiedoke thanks!
Ya, ive followed the beginners guide carefully (to the best of my ability)
What do I do about the xstart though? Maybe just continue with installation of gnome and whatever? See what happens lol

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ngoonee · 2011-09-12 08:42:52

Not that I use nouveau, but it seems to load up fine. Are you following the beginner's guide?

Mod note: Please edit your old posts rather than repeatedly posting within a few minutes (if no one has answered in the meantime).

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-12 08:54:39

i get it - IF no one has answered in the meantime. Lol im an idiot

lifeafter2am · 2011-09-12 18:21:43

Did you install a Window Manager / Desktop Environment or just the X stuff?

ngoonee · 2011-09-13 01:18:19

SCiiGIRL- wrote:

i get it - IF no one has answered in the meantime. Lol im an idiot

That remains to be seen. However, the fact that you seemingly ignored the first part of my post doesn't bode well.

SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-13 08:26:44

Oh I called myself an idiot because I edited the post (mine) that was previous to yours. See?

SCiiGIRL wrote:

Okiedoke thanks!
Ya, ive followed the beginners guide carefully (to the best of my ability)
What do I do about the xstart though? Maybe just continue with installation of gnome and whatever? See what happens lol
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SCiiGIRL- · 2011-09-13 08:35:59

lifeafter2am wrote:

Did you install a Window Manager / Desktop Environment or just the X stuff?

I have installed only the x stuff so far.

I should mention that since installing x, my command line got buggy. Every once in a while whole lines printed to the screen come out with bits and pieces missing or shifted to the left or right (does that make sense?), and often, when i hit a key or perform any command, the screen will go black with just small blurs of pixelation.

pretty eager to understand what THIS means:

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[  1632.569] (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  1632.569] 	compiled for 1.10.3, module version = 0.0.16
[  1632.569] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  1632.569] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 10.0
[  1632.569] (II) LoadModule: "nv"
[  1632.570] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv
[  1632.570] (II) UnloadModule: "nv"
[  1632.570] (II) Unloading nv
[  1632.570] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[  1632.570] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[  1632.570] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia
[  1632.570] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
[  1632.570] (II) Unloading nvidia
[  1632.570] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[  1632.571] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[  1632.571] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[  1632.571] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[  1632.571] (II) Unloading vesa
[  1632.571] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[  1632.571] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[  1632.572] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[  1632.572] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[  1632.572] (II) Unloading fbdev
[  1632.572] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[  1632.572] (II) NOUVEAU driver 
[  1632.572] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[  1632.572] 	RIVA TNT        (NV04)
[  1632.572] 	RIVA TNT2       (NV05)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 256     (NV10)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 2       (NV11, NV15)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 4MX     (NV17, NV18)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 3       (NV20)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 4Ti     (NV25, NV28)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce FX      (NV3x)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 6       (NV4x)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 7       (G7x)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce 8       (G8x)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce GTX 200 (NVA0)
[  1632.572] 	GeForce GTX 400 (NVC0)
[  1632.572] (--) using VT number 7

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biltong · 2011-09-13 09:31:46

@ people saying fermi doesn't work with anything but 3.1: I have a gtx460 and it worked out of the box with nouveau, and as far as I know the kernel that comes with 20110819 only has kernel 3.0.1 or something like that.

karol · 2011-09-13 09:36:03

biltong wrote:

@ people saying fermi doesn't work with anything but 3.1: I have a gtx460 and it worked out of the box with nouveau, and as far as I know the kernel that comes with 20110819 only has kernel 3.0.1 or something like that.

Gusar said just that: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 78#p988478

Gusar · 2011-09-13 09:51:54

biltong wrote:

@ people saying fermi doesn't work with anything but 3.1: I have a gtx460 and it worked out of the box with nouveau, and as far as I know the kernel that comes with 20110819 only has kernel 3.0.1 or something like that.

With full accel or just basic modesetting? As far as I know, working Fermi with pre-3.1 kernels requires extracting microcode from the closed driver. Without that it's possible modesetting is there, but acceleration is not.

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