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#876 2016-08-29 23:53:35

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Good to see another new Archer. I'm definitely a convert. Installing via the Arch Way means I got to control my complete machine and software configuration without having to second-guess the folks that build the other distros. Most of them add so much burf that slows down the machine, and for me is not useful stuff. I can't use eye-candy stuff that comes with compositors - they drive me nuts! I need my terminals and apps to stay put. I don't need anything to spin or do any fancy open-close stuff. I found it easy to avoid all this by installing Arch. Haven't looked back ...

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#877 2016-09-04 01:10:37

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

I ran Arch for almost 9 months then went back to Windows. I used an installer. but just recently I reinstalled Arch... however I did it the Arch way. It is by far an extremely satisfying accomplishment. At least for me. I've tried Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora and Arch. Arch is the only distro for me.

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#878 2016-09-16 09:37:16

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

I finally made the switch and this is without a doubt the best distro for my needs. ive tried them all (as most of us did). I think i should/could have made the switch sooner but that text based install was brutal the first... uh 15 times i tried to install... once i found # wifi-menu i was set. Thanks for the GREAT distro.

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#879 2016-09-16 11:49:09

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

nowhereman531 wrote:

I think i should/could have made the switch sooner but that text based install was brutal the first... uh 15 times i tried to install...

I actually switched to Arch multiple times before I kept it. I even returned from Gentoo, because it was a bit more time consuming than I was comfortable with. Arch is a good compromise between not having to fight arbitrary distro defaults and not being required to do everything manually.

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#880 2016-09-16 17:03:50

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Awebb wrote:

Arch is a good compromise between not having to fight arbitrary distro defaults and not being required to do everything manually.

Arch Linux is pretty unique in having those qualities, isn't it? Maybe one or more of the BSD operating systems is similar?

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#881 2016-09-17 16:51:32

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

drcouzelis wrote:
Awebb wrote:

Arch is a good compromise between not having to fight arbitrary distro defaults and not being required to do everything manually.

Arch Linux is pretty unique in having those qualities, isn't it? Maybe one or more of the BSD operating systems is similar?

I don't know about BSD. I gave up on BSD stuff a few years ago. I will never work in a sysop/admin/devop position again (if I can help it) and I really don't want to play with an OS for the sake of playing with an OS anymore. I really don't have a use for another unixoid OS. Heck, when I feed google with the question"what can bsd do what linux cannot", the second hit is a thread on stackexchange CLOSED by a certain jasonwryan "as primarily opinion-based".

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#882 2016-10-11 09:58:30

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Hi all,

No questions here, this one is more of a success story. This is about why I love Archlinux and why you should ALWAYS have an USB key ready with an arch iso on it.

I went through upgrade process this morning, as I do once a week. For no reason, my system froze. This is a real problem and I don't know why it happened, but as it never happened before, I will not investigate it that much.

Real problem was that I was in front of my terminal, frozen during a "yaourt -Syu", last message being "upgrading systemd". I knew this wasn't going to be easy. Trying to reboot and after fsck, I was told that disk was clean, but that /sbin/init was not found on the drive. Ouch.

Here are the steps I went through :
- boot on USB drive with arch
- mount my drive on /mnt and run "arch-chroot /mnt"
- yaourt -S systemd
- reboot and discover that it was still down
- boot from USB drive again
- try a yaourt -Syu and discover that a lot of files could not be upgraded and the cause was a lot of files in /lib had a 0 byte size.
- pkgfile told me what packages those files belonged to.
- yaourt -S libsystemd libx11 tzdata
- reboot and all was clean

I would not have been stuck as long as I have ansible playbook for installing my machine and daily backups of my /home, but I find it reassuring that my system can be recovered easily. I don't know of other distributions with such a powerful install/live/rescue iso available and practical tools such as arch-chroot.

Thanks you Archlinux.

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#883 2016-10-11 13:14:21

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Mod note: Merged the above post.

n0vember, it sounds like you had the issue with the systemd update that has been very well covered on the forums - but in your case it was an actual problem (in most cases Xorg crashed but was fine after a restart).  There is a fair chance your symptoms were worse because yaourt was running behind the scenes during that upgrade.  If you really think arch is great, you should use the tool that really makes it great: pacman.


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#884 2016-10-11 14:10:51

n0vember
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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Trilby wrote:

If you really think arch is great, you should use the tool that really makes it great: pacman.

smile great debate... I use both pacman and yaourt as long as I use some AUR packages. And yes, I sometimes use yaourt when pacman would have been sufficient.

In this precise case, I tried pacman and it failed. Yaourt worked. I use a systemd-networkd to bond ethernet and wifi. I also use systemd-resolved. While mounted on top of live-usb and arch-chroot, I did not start those services. I ran dhcpcd, echoed "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in /etc/resolv.conf and add dns to the /etc/nsswitch.conf (instead of resolve). Network then worked, but for some reason, pacman wasn't able to resolve server names. I tried the same commands with yaourt and it passed. So to be honest with this, I said I used yaourt.

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#885 2016-10-27 23:23:35

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Greetings, Im new for this place. I want tell my short experience about this distro.

Well, I have 4 years on Debian, and I wanted search other philosophy like KISS. I felt that my learn curve was over, because I managed Debian 'so fine', but I need more,  more Linux, and here is Arch.

'Arch is the best distro', Now Im sure. Only a few months ago running thousands of stuffs, (servers, virtual enviroments, heavy apps..), nice stabilty, so simple, fast distro, fast repos, and great community/wiki. I want stay more involved, so everyday I read and learn about Arch way.

Arch Linux changed my life for a better chance. Now, I can do everything that I want to do. Simple, always works, when not because my fault. All works on Arch Linux, I stressing a lot each moment, but this OS handle like a boss.

The boot speed is the fastest I never saw anything like this.

I can talk all day about positive things of Arch, because really, this is the queen distro for me. Completly in love, for now, and forever Arch way.

Respects. smile

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#886 2016-10-27 23:45:56

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

n0vember wrote:

Network then worked, but for some reason, pacman wasn't able to resolve server names. I tried the same commands with yaourt and it passed. So to be honest with this, I said I used yaourt.

You do realize that in the end, yaourt does nothing but call pacman ...

This sort of thing is why people should steer clear on any of these "helpers" until they actually know what happens in their system.


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#887 2016-11-04 02:22:01

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Past years my laptop got visited by Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, SUSE... every of this distro was missing something, was having something which made me dislike it. Even Debian despite being my first distro - my adventure with linux started from Sarge 3.1, I even bought 2 x DVD which i have till this day!

Arch made me confused at the begining, in the past i failed at Gentoo, went back to something else. Right, thanks to Arch Wiki which is incredibly well made i didn't had problems with installation, configuration etc.
What makes Arch better than any other distro for me? AUR and ability to make my distro extremely lightweight - which is pretty crucial for me - my laptop, Lenovo G570 have some years and it strugle with performance.

Right now, I am using Arch with i3wm-gaps and overall performance i can compare to my work/gaming desktop.

Still a lot to learn how exacly some things works, how are packages build, etc but it is fun, at least something what takes me out of gaming as alone old guy on work vacations.
Thanks for this great distro!

Peace,yo!


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#888 2016-12-14 10:02:19

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

I simply want to say thank you to the arch team and the community!

I ditched windows a few weeks ago and switched to linux. I tried several distributions, starting with mint, just to have a look at linux. Shortly after, debian jessie, debian testing, manjaro, antergos. But none of theme felt right to me, so i tried arch.

The setup was simple, and i learned a lot. And it was fun! Its fast, its slim, its simple, and finally i really have fun in computing again.

Tried some DE (gnome3, xfce, cinnamon, lxde, lxqt) but i sticked with openbox with some lxqt-components and sddm. Seems i like it simple. My desktop should not be in the way doing things.

And with arch, i could do all this. Now my machine is just what i want! I have migrated several laptops, workstations and our server to arch.


So, thank you for arch! Great job!

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#889 2016-12-14 11:04:05

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Glad you like Arch, you really seem happy (as can be seen from your username too tongue). As for using openbox, a lot of Arch users tend to use lightweight window managers instead of full-blown DEs. Apart from being lighter on resources, they also make maintenance much easier.

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#890 2016-12-14 11:04:09

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

(There is an extra "The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread" stickied in this forum.)

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#891 2016-12-14 11:53:22

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Damn, I had totally forgotten about the sticky. Thanks for the reminder ChemBro tongue

@lshappy, I have merged your thread with this one.

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#892 2016-12-15 05:28:31

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

There will never be a Arch V1.0 distro. It's a rolling release for a reason smile

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#893 2016-12-31 10:44:57

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

A big 'thank you' to the ArchLinux project and community -- past and present -- with my best wishes for the season and for the coming year smile. I would also like to acknowledge those here that contribute to upstream FOSS projects, in whatever capacity.

It is a few months past four years since I started using ArchLinux as my primary workhorse at home, having decided to move away from proprietary desktop OSs. Initially I ran it in a virtual machine on my existing hardware (a Mac), but in January 2013 I moved to real (non-Mac) hardware, and have been there ever since. I have few regrets, and certainly nothing that has made me want to go back.

ArchLinux was the key. Its tools, inclusive repos and local (to my country) mirrors are what made it possible for me to jump over, while the project principles and resources are what have kept me here.

In spite of being rolling release and aimed at expert users, ArchLinux has been very stable and very maintainable for me. That I have a real choice as to how I use it, and (usually) a real choice as to when, where and whether I 'delve in' to things, is something that I continue to appreciate every single day.

Also, as someone who has tried various Linux distributions on-and-off since the turn of the century, I am blown away by how far FOSS has come in terms of quality, capability and range in that time (and indeed, even over just the last four years). Combine that with the rise of the web, and I think the FOSS desktop ecosystem has a bright future.

Long live FOSS, and long live ArchLinux!

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#894 2017-02-01 18:22:48

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

At this point the system was actively harming my productivity so I did what any rational person would do: blew it away and installed Arch Linux.

From: http://bitcannon.net/post/finding-an-al … -x-part-2/

As a long-term arch user, I couldn't agree more. Very often I see other GNU/Linux users having various problems, it typically boils down to them not using Arch Linux.

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#895 2017-02-01 18:49:59

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

I was a devoted Apple user for 10+ years, beginning when my old Gateway (do they still even make those anymore?) desktop bit the dust and I purchased my first Mac mini. I didn't know anything about technology at the time, aside from a few computer science courses I took in college. I remember when I first fired up that Mac mini, I couldn't believe it. Everything 'just worked' and the Mac OS was so elegant compared to Windows. I loved it, and for 10+ years I didn't look back. I was all in and I filled my house with Apple devices.

Just a few short months ago, the luster wore off my Apples with the release of macOS Sierra and iOS 10. In one fell swoop, Apple made both my iMac and my iPad obsolete. My wife was 'allowed' to install Sierra on her MacBook, however, the upgrade wound up bricking her laptop; it takes about 5 minutes just to open a window in Finder.

I like to stay current with new software; however, with two toddlers running around that I need to keep in fresh diapers, I didn't exactly have the disposable income to drop $3 grand on new Apple devices so I looked at other options.

There was no way I was going to turn to Windows and I was always curious about Linux so I gave Ubuntu a whirl. I loved it. I think Ubuntu is a great distro and I'm glad that it exists, but I did find it a little lacking in a few areas.

After researching teh internetz, I kept reading about Arch and when I first visited archlinux.org, the website alone instantly appealed to my sensibilities (the structure, organization, simplicity). I was slightly apprehensive about the learning curve but I had to give it a shot. Admittedly, I made some rookie mistakes early on and successfully completing my first installation took a few tries but after I got everything up and running...it's just...perfect.

Arch is exactly what I was looking for; to step beyond Apple. The same sense of 'awe' I had when I first turned on my Mac mini has returned. Everyday when I come home from work and tinker around I find some great new tool or command or configuration, etc. I also installed Arch on my wife's laptop and she loves it too (although I don't think I'll ever fully tear her away from Apple devices).

Ultimately though, I think the most remarkable aspect of Arch is the community. It's crazy to me that such an incredible achievement as Arch was built (and is maintained) by a 'community' as opposed to a corporation.

TL;DR - Arch is great.

Last edited by bgdawes (2017-02-01 20:51:58)


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#896 2017-02-12 04:12:05

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

New user. It took me several attempts to get the install right, but I made it. Very satisfying. There were a few times during the install when I really wanted to register for this forum and ask a question. But the only device I had where I could view the Arch Linux website and search for answers was my mobile phone--and the "activation energy" for me to type in the answer to the registration question (date -u +%V$.....) always felt higher than the effort for me to just keep plugging away, studying the wiki pages, searching the Internet, and answering my own questions. Clearly this is by design. And rightly so.

Anyway, I'm glad to be here. I hope that someday I know this system well enough to be able to help others. Until then, I'll be lurking, learning, and trying to stay out of trouble.

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#897 2017-02-16 12:24:13

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Hello. I've been using OS X since the Intel transition. It's a great operating systems, but I feel that Apple becomes more and more closed. I started looking for an open alternative and Arch Linux seems to be the best of all Linux distros I tried.
These days I use my computer for learning languages, so I don't need much apps. A web browser, e-mail client, word processor for printing stuff, audacity to record and play phrases, and anki for memorizing stuff. The only thing I miss is Adobe Photoshop, but for doing basic tasks such as resizing images and liquify, GIMP will probably do the job. I'm very happy to be part of this community!

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#898 2017-02-16 12:45:30

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

Mod note: Merging leslieking's thread with the mega thread


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#899 2017-03-01 22:37:12

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

I was at "things you fell arch is missing" and to be honest: there's nothing.
OK I still have win7 just for my family use and a ubunto lts as a backup distro if something here breaks.
But when I installed arch I feel that it is what I was searching for years since I left Mint (2015) to grow as a Linux user.
I've tested manjaro, sabayon, funtoo, ubuntu, mint, debian, fedora, suse, mageia, Dragonfly bsd ... And Arch is the best.

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#900 2017-03-09 21:28:05

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Re: The Official Unofficial 'Arch is Best' Thread

I started using Linux Arch in December 2016:

cat /var/log/pacman.log |head -n10
[2016-12-09 21:57] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -r /mnt -Sy --cachedir=/mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg base base-devel grub xorg-server linux'
[2016-12-09 21:57] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] transaction started
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed linux-api-headers (4.7-1)
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed tzdata (2016j-1)
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed iana-etc (20161101-1)
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed filesystem (2015.09-1)
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed glibc (2.24-2)
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed gcc-libs (6.2.1-1)
[2016-12-09 21:58] [ALPM] installed ncurses (6.0+20161112-1)

And from this time I am really impressed.
Everything is working. Excellent repository. Everything is updated, newest software. No issues, no bugs. Pure bash and git maintenance. Best documentation (Arch Wiki). No bloated dependencies. Rolling release. Living community. Mainstream unix changes (systemd) but with keeping tradition (KISS, bash, git, Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, plain text configuration).

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