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#1 2012-01-13 23:09:03

handy
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[SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

I set up a new Arch machine approx' 2 months ago, I noticed that NeroLinux couldn't find the optical drive, but hadn't bothered with solving the problem as I rarely ever need to burn anything these days.

Well the time has come where I do need to burn data from this machine so I need to solve this problem.

I expect that the udev changes that Linux has been/is going through are what is behind the problem.

Here are the /etc/udev/82-cdrom-rules

# permissions for SCSI CD devices
SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", KERNEL=="s[rg][0-9]*", ATTRS{type}=="5", GROUP="optical"

My user is in both the "disk" & "optical" groups.

I don't have any lines for the optical drive in the fstab.

I use Openbox, with Tint2 & "traydevice" in combination with "udisksvm" to mount optical media & USB devices, they are called from ~/.config/openbox/.autostart like so:

# Start traydevice:
traydevice -c /usr/share/udisksvm/usisksvm.xml &


# Detection of insertion of an optical disk
	if ! pgrep -lf "udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr0"; then
	    udisks --poll-for-media /dev/sr0
	fi

	udisksvm >/dev/null &

This doesn't mount the un-mountable blank optical media though.

Any ideas?

[edit:] When I start nero from the command line I get an error, though it really doesn't look to be anything to do with the device not found problem:

(nero:13896): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_set_valist: construct property "type" for object `NeroSplashScreen' can't be set after construction

Last edited by handy (2012-01-21 09:43:04)


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#2 2012-01-14 01:30:13

handy
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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

I just installed K3b to see how it went. It worked, burning 5+GB to a double layer disk with no problems at all.

So it would seem that this problem is NeroLinux 3.5.* (I don't use v4.* so I can't test it) specific.

I had problems with all of the Linux FOSS burning solutions 5 - 6 years ago, which only surfaced when I was burning 20 or more disks at a time (on more than one high spec' machine using both Pioneer & Sony burners). Nero 2.* didn't have that problem so I have been using Nero ever since. This is the first problem that it has ever given me.

At least K3b worked & I no longer need to burn such large numbers of disks.

I won't mark this thread as solved, as the problem still stands, & perhaps someone knows how to fix it (scroogle gave me no answer).

Last edited by handy (2012-01-14 01:32:10)


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#3 2012-01-14 01:34:53

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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

What does "wodim -checkdrive" tell you? Is the drive visible? If so nero should recognize it. You might want to try a much lighterweight option called "xfburn" - it never failed for me and is a piece of cake to use...


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#4 2012-01-14 02:08:16

handy
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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

Thanks for your reply lagagnon.

Here is the output, the system seems to have no problem identifying the drive. I can mount & read media without a problem.

handy ~  $  wodim -checkdrive
Device was not specified. Trying to find an appropriate drive...
Detected CD-R drive: /dev/cdrw
Using /dev/cdrom of unknown capabilities
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info    : 'hp      '
Identification : 'DVD RW AD-7251H5'
Revision       : '1H8D'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R

[edit:]
I actually have xfburn installed. I had forgotten about it! Thanks for reminding me. smile

Last edited by handy (2012-01-14 02:12:36)


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#5 2012-01-14 06:39:22

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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

The thing about fixing problems that started happening 2 months ago is that they may be harder to solve than fresh ones :-)
Some people experienced problems concerning Nero in late October. The solution was to manually load sg module, but I'm not sure it this has anything to do with your case.

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#6 2012-01-14 16:09:57

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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

Well as wodim is detecting a valid drive, then the fault is obviously with nero or its setup. Sorry, can't help you there...


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#7 2012-01-14 18:42:28

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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

For nerolinux you need

MODULES=( sg )

in rc.conf. Some updates ago the sg module wasn't auto loaded anymore and nero needs it.

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#8 2012-01-17 00:32:04

handy
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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

swanson wrote:

For nerolinux you need

MODULES=( sg )

in rc.conf. Some updates ago the sg module wasn't auto loaded anymore and nero needs it.

@swanson: Thanks for that, it sounds like very valuable info'.

I haven't been in a position to be able to test it, I'll edit this post & verify it is good for anyone else that stumbles across the problem in the future.

If it works for me I'll add it to the wiki.


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#9 2012-01-20 22:18:35

handy
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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

@Swanson: I finally got back to my Linux box & tested what you wrote re. /etc/rc.conf & the requirement for MODULES ( sg ) & it worked perfectly. big_smile

I added your post in a note at the bottom of the Nero Linux section here:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CD … Nero_Linux

Hopefully it won't be deemed inappropriate content by those who guard the wiki?


Once again, I thank you. smile


[edit:] @karol: Thanks. smile I'm sorry for not appreciating (& therefore using) the info' in your post_5 that offered the same solution as swanson. Don't know how I missed it? I expect that it was lost on me due to the lack of details in comparison to swanson's post.

Last edited by handy (2012-04-22 21:14:15)


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#10 2012-01-21 05:55:09

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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

Glad it worked.!

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#11 2012-03-23 02:10:46

dxxvi
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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

Could anybody explain why putting sg in rc.conf works but modprobe sg doesn't?

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#12 2012-04-05 14:37:34

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Re: [SOLVED] NeroLinux:- No Device Detected - error

Awesome. Just got Nero 4.0 working with your help handy.

Seems like the sr thingy is needed for the /dev/sr0 device.

I still had weird problems with this though, even after adding sr in MODULE. I could force it to read "disk info" but not to burn. However, choosing which burner to use explicitly in the list/drop-down menu did the trick (facepalm?).

Everything working now though, (on a laptop where the optical drive is in a docking bay).

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