ArchWM-base 0.4.2 - it is what you make it.

rasat · 2005-08-06 11:29:32

Its a temporary domain registration problem. Its now on "ns" mode connection going on and off until the issue is settled.

EDIT:
About ArchWM, I am reducing the size by making the current functions (colorset, decoration, wallpaper, etc.) as separate user's packages. They will be installed by a package installer. Also I am removing all unnecessary system files related to fvwm and fvwm-crystal. Version 0.3 will be the WM-base, as small as possible. With the installer, it become what you make it.

How to develope/design/build the user packages, still has to be thought about. Also how an user will know to post-configure after the module or function files are installed.

dtw · 2005-08-08 11:11:11

Any chance that UCB will be up again soon? i really need access to that site!

T-Dawg · 2005-08-08 11:35:02

rasat wrote:

....How to develop/design/build the user packages.....

why not use makepkg for it? It gives all the usefull pkginfo and filelist, and you could use gensync for the repos. You'd just have to make the installer parse all the special info. Either that or hack makepkg to fit your needs.

rasat · 2005-08-08 11:39:01

Sorry for the problem. Usercb is under another domain (not in my name) which got expired. The domain is now transferred in my name and renewed. Should be up soon, depending on the registrar.

dtw · 2005-08-08 12:15:44

Oh dear! Sorry to hear that Markku! Did you have to pay for it?

Penguin: the problem with makepkg is that it can only really install to / - when it comes to installing in /home for a specific user you got problems! You could however use a makepkg wrapper as I did with versionpkg. This wrapper could allow you to access the module files from an abs type CVS checkout and install them to your /home dir - it would be very easy!

T-Dawg · 2005-08-08 23:12:17

I've got this package still in my cache (before ucb went down). If anyone wants it, pm me and I can email it to you.

rasat · 2005-08-13 08:27:05

Usercb is "almost" up and running again. FTP still not working but soon.

ArchWM-base 0.3 is ready. With the help of Penguin in Bash scripting, I got all the toolboxes developed what I had in mind and are running smoothly (download and load local packages, install and uninstall layouts, functions and modules, and search engine finding how tos). The navigation, moving from one dialog box to another, will be improved along the way. Ver. 0.3 shows what's all about not what "we" would like.

Once FTP is up, the package will be uploaded.

CyberTron · 2005-08-13 09:04:51

I've tested version 0.2 and i must say that I am impressed It is very nice, the concept are perfect and as soon as people begin devoloping layouts and stuff it will be perfect (atleast for me)

z4ziggy · 2005-08-13 11:40:38

can u please post some eyecandy screenshots?

deficite · 2005-08-14 12:49:13

I tried archwmbase 0.2 and I am very impressed. It needs some work, of course, being only verison 0.2. This coupled with the new kde standalone packages will be an awesome environment. I'm excited.

rasat · 2005-08-14 17:09:34

z4ziggy wrote:

can u please post some eyecandy screenshots?

Screenshoot: ArchWM-base ver. 0.3
http://user-contributions.org/projects/ … se-0.3.jpg

Tomorrow, will be uploaded. I am currently restructuring the directories e.g. /function is now /daemon.
http://user-contributions.org/projects/archWMbase/pkg/

mezoko · 2005-08-14 23:57:08

How stable is this?
My main question is it stable enough to try?

T-Dawg · 2005-08-15 01:02:54

msg43 wrote:

How stable is this?
My main question is it stable enough to try?

No. It will blow your computer up into ten-thousand tiny little pieces, which then become radioative and slowly eat away at your body.

Yes, its fine.

pbw · 2005-08-15 01:46:47

Looks awesome guys, decided to give fvwm a try couple days ago. I'll try and come up with a nice config to contribute.

On another note:

Penguin wrote:

msg43 wrote:
How stable is this?
My main question is it stable enough to try?
No. It will blow your computer up into ten-thousand tiny little pieces, which then become radioative and slowly eat away at your body.

lmao Penguin, i'm so borrowing that as our new 'use at own risk' warning for alpha testing a game a friend of mine and i are developing.

rasat · 2005-08-15 15:56:12

Version 0.3.1 is uploaded.
http://user-contributions.org/forums/us … .php?t=276

For detail discussion, feedback, developing packages, please use the Usercb forum:
http://user-contributions.org/forums/us … /index.php

rasat · 2005-08-16 14:50:20

Version 3.2 is uploaded.

There was one major error in user mode when downloading packages. Now its fixed. The /opt/archwmbase permission is fixed and added dependency for fribidi. Also fixed an error in PKGBUILD.

Included gauge box to know the status when downloading pkg lists and packages.

Because of the PKGBUILD error, don't upgrade from 0.3.1 to 0.3.2 but remove before upgrading.

pacman -R archwm-base
pacman -A archwm-base-0.3.2-1.pkg.tar.gz

IMPORTANT: If ver. 0.2 was installed and there is no original FVWM, remove directory ~/.fvwm
If FVWM is installed, remove directory ~/.fvwm/user-preferences and file ~/.fvwm/archwm.conf

Do same if wanting to reinstall archwm-base or view the demo.

rasat · 2005-08-17 05:45:41

The plan for 0.4 is to re-build a new configure system similar to Arch's /etc/rc.conf. The current system is based on fvwm-crystal, I consider KICS (complex) not KISS.

If I get it to work with RC system, no configure is needed after installing a package. The post configure will be for normal usage/style/on/off only.

Most likely ver. 0.5 will be the stable release.
I will continue developing this project 2nd week of September.

PS.
What does RC mean (rc.conf, rc.local, rc.sysinit, etc)?

stonecrest · 2005-08-17 06:42:50

rasat wrote:

PS.
What does RC mean (rc.conf, rc.local, rc.sysinit, etc)?

I searched for this question just the other day...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions … ight=stand

rasat · 2005-09-02 11:01:57

rasat wrote:

The plan for 0.4 is to re-build a new configure system similar to Arch's /etc/rc.conf.

Arch's configure system works fine with fvwm's script language. PipeRead reads bash except storing variable, so a small modification is required in the "rc.sysinit". The two main system files I am naming them as "rc.wmconf" and "rc.wminit". They will be located in $[HOME]/preferences/etc

http://user-contributions.org/wikis/use … /Rc.wmconf
http://user-contributions.org/wikis/use … /Rc.wminit

rasat · 2005-09-12 05:51:12

Version 0.4 is ready.
http://user-contributions.org/forums/us … .php?t=287

Dusty · 2005-09-12 14:25:49

Hey rasat,

Not to undo all the work you've already done with fvwm, but you might be interested in using pekwm as a base instead. Its a lot easier to configure and use. All it is is the window manager, but you could create other configurable programs to do desktop like functions (think pypanel). I think in the long run and even in the short term it would be a lot easier for you to do it this way. More importantly, it would be way more modular, since people could theoretically write modules in any language.

Dusty

rasat · 2005-09-12 20:24:59

To change fvwm is no longer a problem now when archwm has a runcom system with fixed file structure, which is easy to adjust/maintain. Theoretically I am aiming not to be depended on any particular WM, what of coarse is not possible when the program language differs in each WM, but the same system can be applied to all.

PekWM is in what language?

rasat · 2005-09-17 03:09:11

Version 0.4.1 is uploaded. Few bugs were fixed and pacwm toolkit is updated. The structure and system is now more or less what I had in mind. The base is still Fvwm.

mpie · 2005-09-17 20:53:48

further to the pekwm inquries.....

you should look at my latest screeshot.

pekwm, fbpanel,idesk,wmix,wmcpuload.docker ....

so have panel pager and dock with pekwm speed..

the beuty being that fbpanek has functions for a full start type menu and icons in the tray, idesk puts dektop icons docker will hols and use xmms-ctl and the bmp version, pek can have a menu as simple or as complex as you like....

to get the dock apps to play nicely tho had to comment out the harbour in pekwm config

rasat · 2005-09-18 05:45:21

I am still learning and not familar with the PekWM configure system except the basic. I need a sample. I don't like reading documents, no time.

(mpie) Can you make a tarball of all files and configure used in your screenshoot (without the wallpaper), and send me.
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … ot76uh.png

My e-mail:
rasat@user-contributions.org

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