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#1 2005-07-08 23:31:05

bruno
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Project Camel

A really neat project for a user-friendly interface, not PC-BSD related despite the forum:

http://www.pcbsd.org/forums/viewtopic.p … ight=camel


Bruno

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#2 2005-07-09 05:54:39

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Re: Project Camel

hmm, it seems rather intressting, might be a userfriendly interface for use with the TV as well,  we'll see how it goes...


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#3 2005-07-09 13:07:48

z4ziggy
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Re: Project Camel

nice, but too bad its based on kde/qt.

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#4 2005-07-09 14:32:13

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Re: Project Camel

yes it is too bad ...


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#5 2005-07-11 05:48:48

clank
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Re: Project Camel

Too bad??? (clank says to himself as he begins to type into konqueror smile )


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#6 2005-07-15 20:18:31

sweiss
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Re: Project Camel

I also wonder what's so bad about Qt.

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#7 2005-07-15 20:37:38

xerxes2
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Re: Project Camel

qt is a corporate developed and owned toolkit, ie gtk is a joint project owned by nobody,


arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy

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#8 2005-07-15 20:42:32

sweiss
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Re: Project Camel

I thought Qt was GPLed...

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#9 2005-07-15 20:47:00

xerxes2
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Re: Project Camel

qt is gpl


arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy

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#10 2005-07-15 20:59:11

sweiss
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Re: Project Camel

I fail to see the problem then...

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#11 2005-07-15 21:49:35

phrakture
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Re: Project Camel

Qt is also a very odd rendering toolkit, which makes itself platform independant by using it's own drawing routines... the only platform dependancy is the surfaces that Qt draws on... IMHO that's not a very good idea, but hey, people like it

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#12 2005-07-15 23:03:40

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Re: Project Camel

phrakture wrote:

IMHO that's not a very good idea, but hey, people like it

i wonder what's wrong with that. qt runs even w/o X. on my ipaq, my mac, my x86, my dreamcast and even gamecube. it's fast even on the latter ones. unlike gtk2.  wink


I recognize that while theory and practice are, in theory, the same, they are, in practice, different. -Mark Mitchell

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#13 2005-07-15 23:29:55

Gullible Jones
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Re: Project Camel

What's the problem with QT? Well, QT apps take freaking eternity to load unless you do preloading ala KDE... Which eats up a hell of a lot of RAM.

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#14 2005-07-16 00:23:25

poetofnumbers
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Re: Project Camel

xerxes2 wrote:

qt is a corporate developed and owned toolkit, ie gtk is a joint project owned by nobody,

At least in the US, I have the nobody's power of attorney.  Nobody made a fuss.  However, nobody lacks any intelligence, and so I easily gained power of attorney.


Sweet, now I can play with myself.

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#15 2005-07-16 06:11:16

sweiss
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Re: Project Camel

Gullible Jones wrote:

What's the problem with QT? Well, QT apps take freaking eternity to load unless you do preloading ala KDE... Which eats up a hell of a lot of RAM.

You'd have the same problem using gtk apps in a qt environment.

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#16 2005-07-16 10:08:11

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Re: Project Camel

Eh? Last I checked, GTK2 apps load just as fast under KDE (or under Fluxbox and other independent WMs) as under GNOME, unless you're using the GTK-QT theme engine.

That said, I have heard that GTK is designed to load faster, while QT is designed to provide better performance once loaded. Not sure how well that works out...

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#17 2005-07-16 21:37:21

sweiss
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Re: Project Camel

In any case, I can't get along with just one toolkit. Both have good applications I use. And well, RAM is there to be used, don't you think? wink

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#18 2005-07-16 23:10:03

Gullible Jones
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Re: Project Camel

Yep, no argument about the RAM.

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#19 2005-07-17 05:38:47

Ryujin
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Re: Project Camel

As for the kamel project, I am all for bringing more people into linux and making the noob transition easier, bringing new users into linux is hard enough, even with tools like Knoppix and apt!

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