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elpres

Member

Registered: 2012-02-23

Posts: 15

System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

pacman can't connect to any mirrors anymore. All attempts fail with messages like these:

error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from ftp5.gwdg.de : couldn't connect to host
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from ftp.hosteurope.de : Failed to connect to 2a01:488:10:1::50ed:888a: Network is unreachable

The last update that went successfully was on the 20.02. Here is the log of the last update and a couple of attempts afterwards:

[2012-02-20 08:59] Running 'pacman -Syu'
[2012-02-20 08:59] synchronizing package lists
[2012-02-20 08:59] starting full system upgrade
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded filesystem (2011.12-2 -> 2012.2-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded firefox (10.0.1-1 -> 10.0.2-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded gsm (1.0.13-6 -> 1.0.13-7)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libart-lgpl (2.3.21-1 -> 2.3.21-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libcaca (0.99.beta17-1 -> 0.99.beta17-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libid3tag (0.15.1b-6 -> 0.15.1b-7)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libidl2 (0.8.14-1 -> 0.8.14-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libieee1284 (0.2.11-3 -> 0.2.11-4)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libirman (0.4.5-2 -> 0.4.5-3)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libmodplug (0.8.8.3-1 -> 0.8.8.4-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libpng (1.5.8-1 -> 1.5.8-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libvisual (0.4.0-3 -> 0.4.0-4)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libxdamage (1.1.3-1 -> 1.1.3-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded libxrender (0.9.6-1 -> 0.9.6-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded opencore-amr (0.1.2-1 -> 0.1.2-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded openobex (1.5-2 -> 1.5-3)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded p11-kit (0.9-1 -> 0.11-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded perl-encode-locale (1.02-1 -> 1.03-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded perl-error (0.17016-2 -> 0.17017-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded perl-html-tagset (3.20-2 -> 3.20-3)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded perl-http-date (6.00-1 -> 6.01-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded python2-pip (1.0.2-1 -> 1.1-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded python2-pyparsing (1.5.6-1 -> 1.5.6-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded sound-theme-freedesktop (0.7-1 -> 0.7-2)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded sudo (1.8.3.p2-2 -> 1.8.4-1)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded taglib (1.7-3 -> 1.7-4)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded unzip (6.0-5 -> 6.0-6)
[2012-02-20 08:59] upgraded vlc (1.1.13-6 -> 2.0.0-3)
[2012-02-20 09:00] Updating font cache... done.
[2012-02-20 09:00] upgraded xorg-fonts-misc (1.0.1-1 -> 1.0.1-2)
[2012-02-21 09:23] Running 'pacman -Syu'
[2012-02-21 09:23] synchronizing package lists
[2012-02-21 11:46] Running 'pacman -Syu'
[2012-02-21 11:46] synchronizing package lists

I'm behind a corporate proxy, but the environment variables are set, everything worked up to that point, and internet access in general is still working, e.g. browsing or wget function as expected.

Does anybody has ideas as to what happened or how to diagnose the problem?

skunktrader

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From: Brisbane, Australia

Registered: 2010-02-14

Posts: 1,543

Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Please ignore

Last edited by skunktrader (2012-02-23 10:35:50)

DSpider

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From: Romania

Registered: 2009-08-23

Posts: 2,273

Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Post your /etc/pacman.conf and /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.

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elpres

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Registered: 2012-02-23

Posts: 15

Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

/etc/pacman.conf:

#
# /etc/pacman.conf
#
# See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
# The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.
# If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.
#RootDir     = /
#DBPath      = /var/lib/pacman/
#CacheDir    = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile     = /var/log/pacman.log
#GPGDir      = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
HoldPkg     = pacman glibc
# If upgrades are available for these packages they will be asked for first
SyncFirst   = pacman
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl -C - -f %u > %o
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
#CleanMethod = KeepInstalled
Architecture = auto

# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
#IgnorePkg   =
#IgnoreGroup =

#NoUpgrade   =
#NoExtract   =

# Misc options
#UseSyslog
#UseDelta
#TotalDownload
CheckSpace
#VerbosePkgLists

# PGP signature checking
# NOTE: None of this will work without running `pacman-key --init` first.
# The compiled in default is equivalent to the following line. This requires
# you to locally sign and trust packager keys using `pacman-key` for them to be
# considered valid.
#SigLevel = Optional TrustedOnly
# If you wish to check signatures but avoid local sign and trust issues, use
# the following line. This will treat any key imported into pacman's keyring as
# trusted.
#SigLevel = Optional TrustAll
# For now, off by default unless you read the above.
SigLevel = Never

#
# REPOSITORIES
#   - can be defined here or included from another file
#   - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
#   - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
#   - repositories listed first will take precedence when packages
#     have identical names, regardless of version number
#   - URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo
#   - URLs will have $arch replaced by the name of the architecture
#
# Repository entries are of the format:
#       [repo-name]
#       Server = ServerName
#       Include = IncludePath
#
# The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and
# uncommented to enable the repo.
#

# The testing repositories are disabled by default. To enable, uncomment the
# repo name header and Include lines. You can add preferred servers immediately
# after the header, and they will be used before the default mirrors.

#[testing]
#SigLevel = PackageRequired
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
#SigLevel = PackageRequired
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
#SigLevel = PackageOptional
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[community-testing]
#SigLevel = PackageRequired
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
#SigLevel = PackageOptional
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# An example of a custom package repository.  See the pacman manpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories.
#[custom]
#SigLevel = Optional TrustAll
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs

/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist:

##
## Arch Linux repository mirrorlist
## Generated on 2012-02-11
##

## Any
#Server = ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Australia
#Server = ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.optus.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.optus.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Belarus
#Server = ftp://ftp.byfly.by/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.byfly.by/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Belgium
#Server = ftp://archlinux.mirror.kangaroot.net/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.mirror.kangaroot.net/$repo/os/$arch

## Brazil
#Server = ftp://ftp.bitwave.com.br/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://www.bitwave.com.br/downloads/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://archlinux.c3sl.ufpr.br/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.c3sl.ufpr.br/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://www2.itti.ifce.edu.br/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://www2.itti.ifce.edu.br/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Bulgaria
#Server = ftp://archlinux.igor.onlinedirect.bg/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.igor.onlinedirect.bg/$repo/os/$arch

## Canada
#Server = ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.its.dal.ca/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.its.dal.ca/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Chile
#Server = ftp://mirror.archlinux.cl/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.netglobalis.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.netglobalis.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## China
#Server = http://mirrors.163.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.bjtu.edu.cn/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror6.bjtu.edu.cn/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.lzu.edu.cn/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.lzu.edu.cn/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirrors.stuhome.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.stuhome.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Colombia
#Server = http://www.laqee.unal.edu.co/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Czech Republic
#Server = ftp://archlinux.mirror.dkm.cz/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.mirror.dkm.cz/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.vpsfree.cz/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Denmark
#Server = ftp://mirrors.dotsrc.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Estonia
#Server = ftp://ftp.eenet.ee/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.eenet.ee/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Finland
#Server = ftp://mirror.academica.fi/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.academica.fi/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.archlinux.fi/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.archlinux.fi/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## France
#Server = ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mir.archlinux.fr/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mir1.archlinux.fr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mir1.archlinux.fr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://miroir.ezvan.fr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://archlinux.mirrors.ovh.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.mirrors.ovh.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.polymorf.fr/$repo/os/$arch

## Germany
#Server = http://archlinux.limun.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://artfiles.org/archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://artfiles.org/archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.devnu11.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
Server = http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirrors.n-ix.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.n-ix.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.selfnet.de/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.selfnet.de/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
Server = http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://arch.mirrors.tuxdroid.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://arch.mirrors.tuxdroid.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Great Britain
#Server = ftp://mirror.lividpenguin.com/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.lividpenguin.com/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.cinosure.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.cinosure.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirrors.uk2.net/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/$repo/os/$arch

## Greece
#Server = ftp://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://foss.aueb.gr/mirrors/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.otenet.gr/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Hungary
#Server = ftp://ftp.mfa.kfki.hu/pub/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch

## India
#Server = ftp://mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.cse.iitk.ac.in/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Indonesia
#Server = http://repo.ukdw.ac.id/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Ireland
#Server = ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch

## Israel
#Server = ftp://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Italy
#Server = http://mirrors.prometeus.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Japan
#Server = http://ftp.tsukuba.wide.ad.jp/Linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Kazakhstan
#Server = ftp://archlinux.kz/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.kz/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.neolabs.kz/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.neolabs.kz/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Korea
#Server = ftp://mirror.yongbok.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.yongbok.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Latvia
#Server = http://archlinux.goodsoft.lv/$repo/os/$arch

## Luxembourg
#Server = ftp://archlinux.mirror.root.lu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.mirror.root.lu/$repo/os/$arch

## Macedonia
#Server = http://arch.linux.net.mk/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Netherlands
#Server = ftp://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## New Caledonia
#Server = ftp://archlinux.nautile.nc/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.nautile.nc/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Norway
#Server = ftp://arch.ping.uio.no/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://arch.ping.uio.no/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.archlinux.no/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.archlinux.no/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.pvv.ntnu.no/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Poland
#Server = ftp://mirror.chmuri.net/archmirror/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.chmuri.net/archmirror/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.piotrkosoft.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://piotrkosoft.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch

## Portugal
#Server = ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Romania
#Server = ftp://mirrors.adnettelecom.ro/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.adnettelecom.ro/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.archlinux.ro/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.archlinux.ro/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.roedu.net/mirrors/archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.roedu.net/mirrors/archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch

## Russia
#Server = ftp://mirror.yandex.ru/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.yandex.ru/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Singapore
#Server = ftp://ftp.oss.eznetsols.org/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Slovakia
#Server = ftp://mirror.lnx.sk/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.lnx.sk/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## South Korea
#Server = ftp://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Spain
#Server = ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Sweden
#Server = ftp://ftp.ds.hj.se/pub/os/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.ds.hj.se/pub/os/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.portlane.com/pub/os/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.portlane.com/pub/os/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Switzerland
#Server = ftp://archlinux.puzzle.ch/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.puzzle.ch/$repo/os/$arch

## Taiwan
#Server = ftp://linux.cs.nctu.edu.tw/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://linux.cs.nctu.edu.tw/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://shadow.ind.ntou.edu.tw/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://shadow.ind.ntou.edu.tw/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.tku.edu.tw/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.tku.edu.tw/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Turkey
#Server = ftp://ftp.linux.org.tr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.linux.org.tr/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Ukraine
#Server = ftp://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/Linux/ArchLinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirrors.mithril.org.ua/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.mithril.org.ua/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## United States
#Server = ftp://archlinux.supsec.org/pub/linux/arch/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.supsec.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://archlinux.tserver.net/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://cake.lib.fit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://cake.lib.fit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://cosmos.cites.illinois.edu/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://cosmos.cites.illinois.edu/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.ece.vt.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.ancl.hawaii.edu/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.ancl.hawaii.edu/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.us.leaseweb.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://locke.suu.edu/linux/dist/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://lug.mtu.edu/archlinux/ftpfull/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://lug.mtu.edu/archlinux/ftpfull/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.gigenet.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.liquidweb.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirrors.xmission.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.xmission.com/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.mocker.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = ftp://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.rutgers.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://schlunix.org/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.lax1.thegcloud.com/arch//$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirror.yellowfiber.net/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

## Uzbekistan
#Server = ftp://mirrors.st.uz/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
#Server = http://mirrors.st.uz/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

carukia

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

You need to uncomment some servers, i.e. remove the # from the servers closest to you.

EDIT  - Sorry I just noticed that you have a couple uncommented. There might be a problem with those servers, so try others.

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Failed to connect to 2a01:488:10:1::50ed:888a: Network is unreachable

Looks like it's trying to connect to an ipv6 host there.

Try this.

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Server = ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch

Server = http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.arc … o/os/$arch

Server = http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirr … o/os/$arch
Server = ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/arch … o/os/$arch
Server = http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/arc … o/os/$arch

Try using just the ftp:// ones. This corporate proxy that you speak of may have blocked http:// for anything other than a few specific websites. Probably to increase productivity.

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elpres

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Thanks for your suggestions, but they both didn't work: neither disabling IPv6 nor limiting the mirrors to the FTP ones. I've also tried leaving only HTTP mirrors enabled, also without any improvement.

DSpider

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Try leaving only one mirror uncommented (preferably a http one).

Also, can you post your /etc/hosts file?
It should look something like this:

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost yourhostnamehere

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elpres

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

No success with a single mirror either, FTP or HTTP.

And here is /etc/hosts:

#
# /etc/hosts: static lookup table for host names
#

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
::1             localhost.localdomain   localhost

# End of file

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Be … tc.2Fhosts

Read the warning.

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Okay, I added the host name and rebooted, but still no luck. Thanks for your patience though!

Last edited by elpres (2012-02-23 14:40:43)

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Could you run pacman in debug mode and post the output?

# pacman --debug -Syu

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elpres

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Yes, here it is:

debug: parseconfig: options pass
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.conf
debug: config: finish section '(null)'
debug: config: new section 'options'
debug: config: HoldPkg: pacman
debug: config: HoldPkg: glibc
debug: config: SyncFirst: pacman
debug: config: arch: i686
debug: config: SigLevel: Never
debug: config: finish section 'options'
debug: config: new section 'core'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 81: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'core'
debug: config: new section 'extra'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 85: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'extra'
debug: config: new section 'community'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 93: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'community'
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.conf
debug: setup_libalpm called
debug: option 'logfile' = /var/log/pacman.log
debug: option 'gpgdir' = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
debug: option 'cachedir' = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
debug: parseconfig: repo pass
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.conf
debug: config: finish section '(null)'
debug: config: new section 'options'
debug: config: finish section 'options'
debug: config: new section 'core'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 81: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'core'
debug: registering sync database 'core'
debug: database path for tree core set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/core/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686
debug: config: new section 'extra'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 85: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'extra'
debug: registering sync database 'extra'
debug: database path for tree extra set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/extra/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686
debug: config: new section 'community'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 93: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'community'
debug: registering sync database 'community'
debug: database path for tree community set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/community/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/community/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.conf
:: Synchronizing package databases...
debug: url: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686/core.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724744
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from ftp5.gwdg.de : couldn't connect to host
debug: url: ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686/core.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724744
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from ftp.hosteurope.de : Failed to connect to 2a01:488:10:1::50ed:888a: Network is unreachable
debug: url: http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/core/os/i686/core.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724744
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de : couldn't connect to host
debug: url: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686/core.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724744
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from ftp.uni-kl.de : Failed to connect to 2001:638:208:ef1b:0:ff:fe00:4: Network is unreachable
debug: failed to sync db: download library error
error: failed to update core (download library error)
debug: url: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/extra.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724745
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from ftp5.gwdg.de : couldn't connect to host
debug: url: ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686/extra.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724745
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from ftp.hosteurope.de : Failed to connect to 2a01:488:10:1::50ed:888a: Network is unreachable
debug: url: http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/extra/os/i686/extra.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724745
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de : couldn't connect to host
debug: url: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/extra.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724745
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from ftp.uni-kl.de : Failed to connect to 2001:638:208:ef1b:0:ff:fe00:4: Network is unreachable
debug: failed to sync db: download library error
error: failed to update extra (download library error)
debug: url: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686/community.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724746
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'community.db' from ftp5.gwdg.de : couldn't connect to host
debug: url: ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/community/os/i686/community.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724746
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'community.db' from ftp.hosteurope.de : Failed to connect to 2a01:488:10:1::50ed:888a: Network is unreachable
debug: url: http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/community/os/i686/community.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724746
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'community.db' from ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de : couldn't connect to host
debug: url: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686/community.db
debug: maxsize: 26214400
debug: using time condition: 1329724746
debug: opened tempfile for download: /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part (wb)
debug: curl returned error 7 from transfer
error: failed retrieving file 'community.db' from ftp.uni-kl.de : Failed to connect to 2001:638:208:ef1b:0:ff:fe00:4: Network is unreachable
debug: failed to sync db: download library error
error: failed to update community (download library error)
error: failed to synchronize any databases
error: failed to init transaction (download library error)
debug: unregistering database 'local'
debug: unregistering database 'core'
debug: unregistering database 'extra'
debug: unregistering database 'community'

The log mentions curl returning an error. I've just tried downloading a webpage with curl and it worked. So at least when called from the command line, curl seems not to have any problems.

Last edited by elpres (2012-02-23 15:28:26)

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

you should disable ipv6 as I think it doesn't help you much.

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

It seems to me like pacman is actually not really using the proxy and hence failing.

Could you try uncommenting the following 2 lines in your pacman.conf and then run pacman --debug -Syu again?

#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl -C - -f %u > %o
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u

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elpres

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Re: System updates failing with "could not connect to host".

Ah, that worked! Here's the log up to the point where pacman starts comparing package versions:

debug: parseconfig: options pass
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.conf
debug: config: finish section '(null)'
debug: config: new section 'options'
debug: config: HoldPkg: pacman
debug: config: HoldPkg: glibc
debug: config: SyncFirst: pacman
debug: config: xfercommand: /usr/bin/curl -C - -f %u > %o
debug: config: xfercommand: /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
debug: config: arch: i686
debug: config: SigLevel: Never
debug: config: finish section 'options'
debug: config: new section 'core'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 81: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'core'
debug: config: new section 'extra'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 85: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'extra'
debug: config: new section 'community'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 93: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'community'
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.conf
debug: setup_libalpm called
debug: option 'logfile' = /var/log/pacman.log
debug: option 'gpgdir' = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
debug: option 'cachedir' = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
debug: parseconfig: repo pass
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.conf
debug: config: finish section '(null)'
debug: config: new section 'options'
debug: config: finish section 'options'
debug: config: new section 'core'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 81: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'core'
debug: registering sync database 'core'
debug: database path for tree core set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/core/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'core': ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686
debug: config: new section 'extra'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 85: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'extra'
debug: registering sync database 'extra'
debug: database path for tree extra set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/extra/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'extra': ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686
debug: config: new section 'community'
debug: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 93: including /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: attempting to read file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
debug: config: finish section 'community'
debug: registering sync database 'community'
debug: database path for tree community set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/community/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/archlinux/community/os/i686
debug: adding new server URL to database 'community': ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686
debug: config: finished parsing /etc/pacman.conf
debug: running command: /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686/core.db
--2012-02-24 09:26:29--  http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/core/os/i686/core.db
Connecting to 192.168.2.2:3128... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 107626 (105K) [text/plain]
Saving to: `/var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part'

   100K .....                                                 100% 11,3M=0,009s

2012-02-24 09:26:29 (11,2 MB/s) - `/var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.part' saved [107626/107626]

debug: running command: /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/extra.db
--2012-02-24 09:26:29--  http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/extra/os/i686/extra.db
Connecting to 192.168.2.2:3128... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1364226 (1,3M) [text/plain]
Saving to: `/var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part'

  1300K .......... .......... .......... ..                   100% 11,6M=0,1s

2012-02-24 09:26:29 (11,2 MB/s) - `/var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db.part' saved [1364226/1364226]

debug: running command: /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O /var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686/community.db
--2012-02-24 09:26:29--  http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/community/os/i686/community.db
Connecting to 192.168.2.2:3128... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1528043 (1,5M) [text/plain]
Saving to: `/var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part'

  1450K .......... .......... .......... .......... ..        100% 11,6M=0,1s

2012-02-24 09:26:30 (11,2 MB/s) - `/var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db.part' saved [1528043/1528043]

debug: loading package cache for repository 'local'
debug: added 646 packages to package cache for db 'local'
debug: loading package cache for repository 'core'
debug: opening database archive /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db
debug: added 191 packages to package cache for db 'core'
debug: checking for package upgrades
debug: searching for replacements for a52dec
debug: loading package cache for repository 'extra'
debug: opening database archive /var/lib/pacman/sync/extra.db
debug: added 2789 packages to package cache for db 'extra'
debug: searching for replacements for aalib

So it seems that wget handles the proxy correctly. Thanks a lot! Though i can now live with this situation, is it worth filing a bug?