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#1 2012-03-13 06:40:48

mdshann
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Registered: 2009-10-08
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cannot get xorg to work at all

Granted I have yet to try vesa, but frankly if I cannot get the fglrx driver to work then I am not interested in this distro. Following the wiki instructions has gotten me nowhere and forum searches have turned up 4 year old posts. I have installed Xorg 1.11 from the repository listed on the catalyst page. I have installed the drivers also from the repo listed on the wiki page. I have a Dell XPS 1645 with an AMD HD 5730. fglrx module is running radeon is blacklisted and is not running. nomodeset is on my kernel line. running Xorg -configure says no devices to configure. fglrxinfo says unable to open display (null). If I delete xorg.conf startx says failed to load module ati, vesa, and fbdev, and then says fatal error no screens found. If I run aticonfig --initial it creates xorg.conf, but startx still will not work. The screen will go blank like it is about to load but there is an error fglrx: no matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI :0@2:0:1) found and xinit: connection to server lost. Running Xorg -configure still states no devices to configure. I'm really hoping this is something stupid that I have missed doing, as I do want to use this distro but my time is not infinite, and ubuntu and friends are just so easy. Not like I've never run Arch or Gentoo before either. If my tone is off I'm sorry, it's 2:30 AM here and I'm tired

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#2 2012-03-13 07:05:18

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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

Did you try opensource ATI drivers?


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#3 2012-03-13 12:37:50

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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

No I did not. It was my understanding that the open source drivers did not perform as well and I did not want to lose performance. I may give this a try though when I get back from work. Thanks for the reply!

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#4 2012-03-13 15:45:01

Pres
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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

If you are going to be gaming, then yes, you will lose performance with the open source drivers. For everything else, the open source radeon driver outperform the proprietary one.

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#5 2012-03-13 15:49:53

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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

HD video playback will suffer. Sometimes gnome-shell too.But it all depends what the OP wants.


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#6 2012-03-13 16:48:29

Viruser
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Registered: 2012-02-29
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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

Sorry to hijack the tread but I have the same problem
After today's X update, fglrx is not working anymore and i'm forced to use the open-source driver
I cannot even get the 3D to work using the open source driver
Could someone help with this?

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#7 2012-03-13 17:13:59

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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

You need the old xorg-server in order to use fglrx. Their driver will support the new xorg-server in several months... Hopefully

@OP, I'm sorry, I can't help you, I don't have an ati card. You should post on the multimedia sections, someone using fglrx would probably be of more help.
This thread is where I think ati users share their frustrations: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57084&p=152

Last edited by Dheart (2012-03-13 17:34:39)


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#8 2012-03-13 20:23:07

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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

I also had trouble with my ATI Radeon after the upgrade and solved the problem by a revert.
For this I used (for "extra") the repository http://arm.konnichi.com/2012/03/10/extra/os/i686/
The archlinux wiki explains for "xorg" how to do reverts using such repositories ;-)

I now run upgrades like this (example as of today):

$ sudo pacman -Syuw --ignore ati-dri,libgl,xf86-input-evdev,xf86-video-ati,xf86-video-fbdev,xf86-video-vesa,xorg-server,xorg-server-common,xorg-xinput
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core                104.9 KiB   117K/s 00:01 [###] 100%
 extra              1388.4 KiB   123K/s 00:11 [###] 100%
 community          1588.5 KiB   123K/s 00:13 [###] 100%
 archlinuxfr is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: ati-dri: ignoring package upgrade (7.11.2-1 => 8.0.1-2)
warning: libgl: ignoring package upgrade (7.11.2-1 => 8.0.1-2)
warning: xf86-input-evdev: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.0-4 => 2.7.0-1)
warning: xf86-video-ati: ignoring package upgrade (6.14.3-1 => 6.14.3-2)
warning: xf86-video-fbdev: ignoring package upgrade (0.4.2-5 => 0.4.2-6)
warning: xf86-video-vesa: ignoring package upgrade (2.3.0-7 => 2.3.0-8)
warning: xorg-server: ignoring package upgrade (1.11.4-1 => 1.12.0-1)
warning: xorg-server-common: ignoring package upgrade (1.11.4-1 => 1.12.0-1)
warning: xorg-xinput: ignoring package upgrade (1.5.3-2 => 1.5.99.1-1)
...

For the time being I am out of trouble, but in case someone is interested in understanding the problem:

======== PCI devices ========
Host bridge	ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP Host Bridge
PCI bridge	ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 IGP PCI/AGP Bridge
USB Controller	ATI Technologies Inc Device 4367
USB Controller	ATI Technologies Inc Device 4368
USB Controller	ATI Technologies Inc Device 4365
SMBus	ATI Technologies Inc SMBus
IDE interface	ATI Technologies Inc Device 4369
ISA bridge	ATI Technologies Inc Device 436c
PCI bridge	ATI Technologies Inc Device 4362
Multimedia audio controller	ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB300 AC'97 Audio Controller
VGA compatible controller	ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 9100 PRO IGP


== Xprg.0.log ==
[   260.602] 
X.Org X Server 1.12.0
Release Date: 2012-03-04
[   260.602] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   260.602] Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.9-1-ARCH i686 
[   260.602] Current Operating System: Linux arch200905 3.2.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 1 09:10:44 UTC 2012 i686
[   260.602] Kernel command line: vga=0xF06 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/[confidential ... ...] ro
[   260.602] Build Date: 05 March 2012  06:02:28AM
[   260.602]  
[   260.602] Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
[   260.602] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   260.602] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   260.603] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 13 09:47:44 2012
[   260.654] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[   260.674] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[   260.674] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[   260.674] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[   260.674] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[   260.692] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
	Using a default monitor configuration.
[   260.692] (==) Automatically adding devices
[   260.692] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[   260.828] (==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
	/usr/share/fonts/OTF/,
	/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
[   260.828] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[   260.828] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[   260.828] (II) Loader magic: 0x822e580
[   260.828] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   260.828] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[   260.828] 	X.Org Video Driver: 12.0
[   260.828] 	X.Org XInput driver : 16.0
[   260.828] 	X.Org Server Extension : 6.0
[   260.829] (--) PCI:*(0:1:5:0) 1002:7834:1509:9269 rev 0, Mem @ 0xe8000000/67108864, 0xec020000/65536, I/O @ 0x0000c000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
[   260.830] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[   260.830] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
[   260.882] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
[   260.918] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   260.918] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.0.0
[   260.918] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[   260.918] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[   260.918] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[   260.918] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[   260.918] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
[   260.931] (II) Loading extension DPMS
[   260.931] (II) Loading extension XVideo
[   260.931] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[   260.931] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
[   260.931] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
[   260.932] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
[   260.933] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   260.933] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.0.0
[   260.934] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[   260.934] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[   260.934] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[   260.934] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[   260.934] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[   260.987] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   260.987] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.0.0
[   260.987] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[   260.987] (==) AIGLX enabled
[   260.987] (II) Loading extension GLX
[   260.988] (II) LoadModule: "record"
[   260.988] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
[   260.999] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   260.999] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.13.0
[   260.999] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[   260.999] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[   260.999] (II) Loading extension RECORD
[   260.999] (II) LoadModule: "dri"
[   261.000] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
[   261.009] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.009] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.0.0
[   261.009] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[   261.009] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[   261.010] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[   261.010] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
[   261.016] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.016] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.2.0
[   261.016] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[   261.017] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[   261.017] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0
[   261.017] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[   261.017] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 2
[   261.017] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[   261.017] (II) LoadModule: "ati"
[   261.035] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
[   261.045] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.045] 	compiled for 1.11.99.902, module version = 6.14.3
[   261.045] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   261.046] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   261.046] (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[   261.046] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[   261.106] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.106] 	compiled for 1.11.99.902, module version = 6.14.3
[   261.106] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   261.106] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   261.121] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[   261.121] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[   261.139] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.139] 	compiled for 1.11.99.903, module version = 2.3.0
[   261.139] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   261.139] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   261.139] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[   261.139] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[   261.140] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.140] 	compiled for 1.11.99.903, module version = 0.4.2
[   261.140] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   261.140] (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets:
	ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 (PCI),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M24) 3152 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI FireMV 2400 3155 (PCI),
	ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136,
	ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP),
	ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650,
	ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237,
	ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336,
	ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337,
	ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI),
	ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X800 VE (R420) JT (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 (R480) (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP),
	ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP),
	ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX NF (AGP),
	ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP),
	ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
	ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
	ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI),
	ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI),
	ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon Mobility X600 SE (M24C) 5462 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UQ (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UR (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL unknown (R423) UT (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X700 XL (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X550XTX 5657 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834,
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835,
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP),
	ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI),
	ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X550 (RV370) 5B63 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE),
	ATI FireMV 2200 PCIE (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP),
	ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE),
	ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE),
	ATI unknown Radeon / FireGL (R480) 5D50 (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE),
	ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE),
	ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X1800,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1800 XT, ATI Mobility Radeon X1800,
	ATI Mobility FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V7200, ATI FireGL V5300,
	ATI Mobility FireGL V7100, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800,
	ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800, ATI Radeon X1800,
	ATI FireGL V7300, ATI FireGL V7350, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI RV505,
	ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI M54-GL,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550,
	ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1300,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1300,
	ATI RV505, ATI RV505, ATI FireGL V3300, ATI FireGL V3350,
	ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550,
	ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450,
	ATI Radeon X1300/X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X2300,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X2300, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1350, ATI Mobility Radeon X1450,
	ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon X1550, ATI Mobility Radeon X1350,
	ATI FireMV 2250, ATI Radeon X1550 64-bit, ATI Radeon X1600,
	ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600, ATI Radeon X1600,
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5200, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600,
	ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1600,
	ATI Radeon X1300 XT/X1600 Pro, ATI FireGL V3400,
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5250, ATI Mobility Radeon X1700,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 XT, ATI FireGL V5200,
	ATI Mobility Radeon X1700, ATI Radeon X2300HD,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300,
	ATI Radeon X1950, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950,
	ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900,
	ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900,
	ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1900,
	ATI AMD Stream Processor, ATI Radeon X1900, ATI Radeon X1950,
	ATI RV560, ATI RV560, ATI Mobility Radeon X1900, ATI RV560,
	ATI Radeon X1950 GT, ATI RV570, ATI RV570, ATI FireGL V7400,
	ATI RV560, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI Radeon X1650, ATI RV560,
	ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835,
	ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200,
	ATI Radeon X1200, ATI Radeon X1200, ATI RS740, ATI RS740M, ATI RS740,
	ATI RS740M, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT,
	ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2900 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2900 GT,
	ATI FireGL V8650, ATI FireGL V8600, ATI FireGL V7600,
	ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4870 x2,
	ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4850 x2,
	ATI FirePro V8750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V7760 (FireGL),
	ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850, ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4850 X2,
	ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro RV770, AMD FireStream 9270,
	AMD FireStream 9250, ATI FirePro V8700 (FireGL),
	ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Mobility RADEON M98,
	ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4870, ATI Radeon 4800 Series,
	ATI Radeon 4800 Series, ATI FirePro M7750, ATI M98, ATI M98, ATI M98,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP),
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI FirePro M5750,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon RV730 (AGP),
	ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670], ATI RADEON E4600,
	ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series, ATI RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650],
	ATI FirePro V7750 (FireGL), ATI FirePro V5700 (FireGL),
	ATI FirePro V3750 (FireGL), ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850, ATI FirePro M7740, ATI RV740,
	ATI Radeon HD 4770, ATI Radeon HD 4700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 4770,
	ATI FirePro M5750, ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT,
	ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro, ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO AGP, ATI FireGL V4000,
	ATI RV610, ATI Radeon HD 2350, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400, ATI RADEON E2400, ATI RV610,
	ATI FireMV 2260, ATI RV670, ATI Radeon HD3870,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850, ATI Radeon HD3850,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 X2, ATI RV670,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2,
	ATI Radeon HD3870 X2, ATI FireGL V7700, ATI Radeon HD3850,
	ATI Radeon HD3690, AMD Firestream 9170, ATI Radeon HD 4550,
	ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710, ATI Radeon RV710,
	ATI Radeon HD 4350, ATI Mobility Radeon 4300 Series,
	ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series,
	ATI FirePro RG220, ATI Mobility Radeon 4330, ATI RV630,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT,
	ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP,
	ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI Gemini RV630,
	ATI Gemini Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI FireGL V5600,
	ATI FireGL V3600, ATI Radeon HD 2600 LE,
	ATI Mobility FireGL Graphics Processor, ATI Radeon HD 3470,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI Radeon HD 3430,
	ATI Radeon HD 3450, ATI FirePro V3700, ATI FireMV 2450,
	ATI FireMV 2260, ATI FireMV 2260, ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO,
	ATI Radeon HD 3600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670,
	ATI Mobility FireGL V5700, ATI Mobility FireGL V5725,
	ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics,
	ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics, ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics,
	ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics, ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics,
	ATI Radeon 3000 Graphics, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2, SUMO2,
	SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, SUMO, ATI Radeon HD 4200, ATI Radeon 4100,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200, ATI Mobility Radeon 4100,
	ATI Radeon HD 4290, ATI Radeon HD 4250, AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics,
	AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics,
	AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series Graphics,
	AMD Radeon HD 6200 Series Graphics, CYPRESS,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, AMD Firestream 9370,
	AMD Firestream 9350, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series,
	ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series, ATI Radeon HD 6700 Series,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5570,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI Radeon HD 5670,
	ATI Radeon HD 5570, ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series, REDWOOD,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series,
	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series, ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics,
	ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics, CEDAR,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter,
	ATI FirePro (FireGL) Graphics Adapter, ATI FirePro 2270, CEDAR,
	ATI Radeon HD 5450, CEDAR, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN,
	CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series,
	AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series, CAYMAN, CAYMAN, CAYMAN,
	AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS,
	BARTS, Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series,
	Mobility Radeon HD 6000 Series, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS, BARTS,
	AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series, AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series,
	AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS,
	TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, TURKS, CAICOS,
	CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS,
	CAICOS, CAICOS, CAICOS
[   261.148] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   261.148] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[   261.148] (--) using VT number 7

[   261.153] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[   261.154] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[   261.154] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[   261.154] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[   261.154] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[   261.155] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[   261.196] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   261.196] 	compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 0.0.2
[   261.196] 	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   261.196] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory

======== error reported from startx ========
X.Org X Server 1.12.0
Release Date: 2012-03-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.9-1-ARCH i686 
Current Operating System: Linux arch200905 3.2.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 1 09:10:44 UTC 2012 i686
Kernel command line: vga=0xF06 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/... ... ... ... ro
Build Date: 05 March 2012  06:02:28AM
 
Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 13 09:47:44 2012
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so: undefined symbol: pciTag
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error

This is a temporary solution. I hope, that I can do regular upgrades again later.

Best regards from Munich
Goetz

==== 2012-03-14 09:49 UTC ================================================
I am trying to find the culprit. Besides xorg, I also blocked ati-dri and libgl. But they work fine on my PC.

Thus, this is ok:

  • ati-dri: package upgrade (7.11.2-1 => 8.0.1-2)

  • libgl: package upgrade (7.11.2-1 => 8.0.1-2)

In /etc/pacman.conf I entered:

# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
IgnorePkg = xorg-server-common
IgnoreGroup = xorg

Last edited by goetzkluge (2012-03-14 10:23:47)

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#9 2012-03-13 22:53:32

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Registered: 2011-11-27
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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

hadrons123 wrote:

HD video playback will suffer. Sometimes gnome-shell too.But it all depends what the OP wants.

I have not found the proprietary driver to play at all well with gnome-shell Essentially, it causes gnome to crash every couple of seconds. The shell is respawned but the display is continaully disappearing. (But this wasn't with arch so it might work better here.)


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#10 2012-03-13 23:49:23

mdshann
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Registered: 2009-10-08
Posts: 33

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

So maybe my issue is that I first installed xorg from the original Arch repos before seeing the instructions for fglrx. I thought it installed the older one, and in fact it said it did, but is it possible that they are both installed or that there is something left from the 1.12 Xorg? How would I check? Should I just completey remove Xorg and catalyst stuff and start over? I have both the xorg111 and catalyst repos in my pacman.conf, and I did sync before each install command.

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#11 2012-03-14 00:29:09

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From: Munich
Registered: 2009-05-05
Posts: 60
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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

mdshann, I do not know, whether our problems are similar. You seem to have installed your arch just after the xorg 1.12 became available (in extra) which didn't work on my PC with an ATI radeon card.

In order to get back to the old one, I temporarily(!) changed /etc/pacman.conf

...

[extra]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Server = http://arm.konnichi.com/2012/03/10/extra/os/i686/

...

Then I did "sudo pacman Syy" to synchronize the databank.

Then I reinstalled ati-dri, libgl, xf86-input-evdev, xf86-video-ati, xf86-video-fbdev, xf86-video-vesa, xorg-server, xorg-server-common, xorg-xinput ignoring the downgrade warnings, because a downgrade is what I wanted.

I did it piece by piece, but "sudo pacman S xorg" also can be used to install everything offered in that package from Mach 10th.
(See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 5#p1071425 for the versions, which I now try to protect from being updated.)

There may be smarter ways to handle that. Any hints from anybody else?

So far archlinux made me stop distro hopping three years ago. Even though there were few hickups (sound, video, flash disk mounting, kernel parameters in grub, ugly fonts in firefox etc.), I'll stay with arch. I could manage the problems, often thanks to help from the forums here and in Germany.

I am curious, what will happen in the future with xorg and hope that the next updates of xorg will be clean again. Otherwise I'll be stuck with my update from 2012-03-10.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2012-03-24: Script for my setup in order to revert today's update:

#!/bin/sh

exec sudo pacman -S xf86-input-evdev xf86-video-ati xf86-video-fbdev xf86-video-vesa xorg-luit xorg-xkbcomp xorg-setxkbmap xorg-server-common xorg-server xorg-util-macros xorg-xauth xorg-xcursorgen xorg-xgamma xorg-xhost xorg-xinput xorg-xkbevd xorg-xmodmap

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#12 2012-03-14 02:31:55

mdshann
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Registered: 2009-10-08
Posts: 33

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

What is ati-dri and why are you installing it? I followed the steps here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fglrx and I don't see ati-dri anywhere? Is this maybe what I am missing? Here are some dumps from the avrious commands I have tried to get this to work:

lspci output

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DMI (rev 11)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 11)
00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor System Management Registers (rev 11)
00:08.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor Semaphore and Scratchpad Registers (rev 11)
00:08.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor System Control and Status Registers (rev 11)
00:08.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor Miscellaneous Registers (rev 11)
00:10.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link (rev 11)
00:10.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Routing and Protocol Registers (rev 11)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev 06)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev 06)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]
02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series]
05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 (rev 35)
09:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 01)
09:00.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd Memory Stick Host Controller (rev 01)
09:00.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd Device e852 (rev 01)
09:00.3 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd FireWire Host Controller (rev 01)
0b:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-Core Registers (rev 04)
ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 04)
ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 04)
ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 04)
ff:03.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller (rev 04)
ff:03.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder (rev 04)
ff:03.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Test Registers (rev 04)
ff:04.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Control Registers (rev 04)
ff:04.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Address Registers (rev 04)
ff:04.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Rank Registers (rev 04)
ff:04.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Thermal Control Registers (rev 04)
ff:05.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Control Registers (rev 04)
ff:05.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Address Registers (rev 04)
ff:05.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Rank Registers (rev 04)
ff:05.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Thermal Control Registers (rev 04)

fglrxinfo gives

Error: unable to open display (null)

startx output

X.Org X Server 1.11.4
Release Date: 2012-01-27
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.2-1-ARCH x86_64 
Current Operating System: Linux XPS1645Arch 3.2.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 1 09:31:13 CET 2012 x86_64
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda3 ro nomodeset
Build Date: 29 January 2012  03:38:00PM
 
Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 13 20:05:05 2012
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@2:0:1) found
W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified).
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: line 56: /usr/bin/xterm: Success
xinit: connection to X server lost

waiting for X server to shut down ..Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.

Xorg -configure gives the following:

X.Org X Server 1.11.4
Release Date: 2012-01-27
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.2-1-ARCH x86_64 
Current Operating System: Linux XPS1645Arch 3.2.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 1 09:31:13 CET 2012 x86_64
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda3 ro nomodeset
Build Date: 29 January 2012  03:38:00PM
 
Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 13 20:03:45 2012
List of video drivers:
	fglrx
No devices to configure.  Configuration failed.
Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file.

To me it looks like the driver is not finding the card or possibly the display, but why? I am trying what you suggested goetzkluge, thank you.

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#13 2012-03-14 02:44:25

mdshann
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Registered: 2009-10-08
Posts: 33

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

Oh, ati-dri is part of the opensource drivers. I don't want that, I am trying to get the proprietary one working as I want the extra performance. Still, pacman says that all of the xorg packages you listed besides xf86-video-ati as I did not install that are up to date with the 03102012 repo you used. So I guess that's not the issue. sad

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#14 2012-03-14 06:27:50

t1nk3r3r
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From: The Pacific Northwest
Registered: 2011-03-22
Posts: 79

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

fglrx can be a beast, I used to spend a week in the command-line with each new version... If you're playing 3D games, then it's worth it.  If you're only going to run things like Compiz, opensource is the way.

First thing to check after fglrx is [successfully] installed is:
$ lsmod | grep fglrx
If you get nothing, then try:
# modprobe fglrx


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#15 2012-03-14 16:14:35

mdshann
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Registered: 2009-10-08
Posts: 33

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

Yeah, it's there.

Module                  Size  Used by
nls_utf8                1320  0 
ntfs                  192860  0 
joydev                  9895  0 
btusb                  11385  0 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     24121  1 
bluetooth             151999  1 btusb
snd_hda_codec_idt      56841  1 
snd_hda_intel          23375  0 
ir_lirc_codec           4091  0 
lirc_dev                9327  1 ir_lirc_codec
snd_hda_codec          89160  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
snd_hwdep               6389  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                74780  3 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
snd_page_alloc          7153  2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
ir_mce_kbd_decoder      3222  0 
snd_timer              19544  1 snd_pcm
ir_sony_decoder         1643  0 
i2400m_usb             35078  0 
snd                    59214  7 snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_codec_hdmi
ir_jvc_decoder          1705  0 
qcserial                4450  0 
usb_wwan                9430  1 qcserial
usbserial              31983  2 usb_wwan,qcserial
serio_raw               4429  0 
psmouse                61311  0 
arc4                    1410  2 
iwlwifi               247876  0 
mac80211              228527  1 iwlwifi
i2400m                119891  1 i2400m_usb
cfg80211              172260  2 mac80211,iwlwifi
wimax                  26950  1 i2400m
fglrx                3155185  0 
firewire_ohci          31701  0 
firewire_core          50872  1 firewire_ohci
dell_wmi                1517  0 
ir_rc6_decoder          2057  0 
dell_laptop             9216  0 
ir_rc5_decoder          1641  0 
uvcvideo               64311  0 
ir_nec_decoder          1737  0 
rc_rc6_mce              1380  0 
videodev               82101  1 uvcvideo
video                  11164  0 
thermal                 7799  0 
battery                 6453  0 
ite_cir                16063  0 
processor              25582  0 
rc_core                13280  10 ir_mce_kbd_decoder,ite_cir,rc_rc6_mce,ir_nec_decoder,ir_rc5_decoder,ir_rc6_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,ir_sony_decoder,ir_lirc_codec
fan                     2426  0 
ac                      2344  0 
button                  4470  1 fglrx
soundcore               6210  1 snd
pcspkr                  1819  0 
sparse_keymap           3120  1 dell_wmi
i7core_edac            17510  0 
edac_core              37680  1 i7core_edac
v4l2_compat_ioctl32     8316  1 videodev
media                  10597  2 videodev,uvcvideo
evdev                   9530  0 
tg3                   134884  0 
i2c_i801                8187  0 
wmi                     8475  1 dell_wmi
sdhci_pci              10884  0 
sdhci                  23242  1 sdhci_pci
mmc_core               80910  2 sdhci,sdhci_pci
i2c_core               20492  2 i2c_i801,videodev
iTCO_wdt               11885  0 
libphy                 16985  1 tg3
iTCO_vendor_support     1961  1 iTCO_wdt
dcdbas                  5520  1 dell_laptop
crc_itu_t               1363  1 firewire_core
rfkill                 15498  4 dell_laptop,wimax,cfg80211,bluetooth
usbhid                 35352  0 
ext4                  418044  1 
hid                    83555  1 usbhid
crc16                   1359  2 ext4,bluetooth
jbd2                   71243  1 ext4
mbcache                 5881  1 ext4
sr_mod                 14951  0 
sd_mod                 28307  3 
cdrom                  36617  1 sr_mod
ahci                   20037  2 
libahci                19559  1 ahci
libata                166654  2 libahci,ahci
ehci_hcd               40698  0 
scsi_mod              133548  3 libata,sd_mod,sr_mod
usbcore               146113  9 ehci_hcd,usbhid,i2400m_usb,uvcvideo,usbserial,usb_wwan,qcserial,btusb
usb_common               954  1 usbcore

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#16 2012-03-17 11:41:12

jose1711
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Registered: 2006-07-08
Posts: 128

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

goetzkluge wrote:

I also had trouble with my ATI Radeon after the upgrade and solved the problem by a revert.
For this I used (for "extra") the repository http://arm.konnichi.com/2012/03/10/extra/os/i686/
The archlinux wiki explains for "xorg" how to do reverts using such repositories ;-)

thank you for sharing your solution - worked for me like a charm. jose

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#17 2012-03-17 19:52:48

whatshisname
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Registered: 2010-04-24
Posts: 148

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

Thanks, goetzkluge.  I was running the radeon driver on my Dell D600 laptop and lost X last week during the Xorg upgrade.  Thanks to your instructions here I got my old laptop back up and running *except* that my touchpad had gone south in the process.  Frankly, I'm not sure if it's something I did or a result of following everything you said here.  I've been working every evening on this for the past week and have tried all sorts of things.

In case someone else is having this problem, this is what I noticed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log

[  3042.318] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[  3042.318] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[  3042.384] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3042.384]    compiled for 1.12.0, module version = 1.5.99
[  3042.384]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[  3042.384]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[  3042.384] (EE) module ABI major version (16) doesn't match the server's version (13)
[  3042.384] (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[  3042.384] (II) Unloading synaptics
[  3042.384] (EE) Failed to load module "synaptics" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[  3042.384] (EE) No input driver matching `synaptics'

Since I had downgraded to Xorg  1.11.4 this looked like the source of the issue.  Now where to find the old synaptics package?  After some searching and snooping around, I finally took a look at  /var/cache/pacman/pkg where I found:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  46256 Sep  5  2011 xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  48708 Feb 21 01:47 xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.99-0.2-i686.pkg.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  52460 Mar 14 14:01 xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.99.901-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  52468 Mar 15 13:47 xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.99.901-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz

xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz looked like the old package so I ran "pacman -U xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz" rebooted and now my touchpad is working.

Finally!

Last edited by whatshisname (2012-03-17 19:55:33)

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#18 2012-03-24 11:59:05

goetzkluge
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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

FYI: The recent (2012-03-24) update would cause trouble too.

Therefore I still have this in /var/pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg = xorg-server-common
IgnorePkg = xorg-util-macros
IgnoreGroup = xorg

In my setup, this avoids the following unwanted upgrades:

warning: xf86-input-evdev: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.0-4 => 2.7.0-2)
warning: xf86-video-ati: ignoring package upgrade (6.14.3-1 => 6.14.3-2)
warning: xf86-video-fbdev: ignoring package upgrade (0.4.2-5 => 0.4.2-6)
warning: xf86-video-vesa: ignoring package upgrade (2.3.0-7 => 2.3.1-1)
warning: xorg-luit: ignoring package upgrade (1.1.0-3 => 1.1.1-1)
warning: xorg-server: ignoring package upgrade (1.11.4-1 => 1.12.0-1)
warning: xorg-server-common: ignoring package upgrade (1.11.4-1 => 1.12.0-1)
warning: xorg-setxkbmap: ignoring package upgrade (1.2.0-3 => 1.3.0-1)
warning: xorg-util-macros: ignoring package upgrade (1.16.2-1 => 1.17-1)
warning: xorg-xauth: ignoring package upgrade (1.0.6-1 => 1.0.7-1)
warning: xorg-xcursorgen: ignoring package upgrade (1.0.4-3 => 1.0.5-1)
warning: xorg-xgamma: ignoring package upgrade (1.0.4-3 => 1.0.5-1)
warning: xorg-xhost: ignoring package upgrade (1.0.4-3 => 1.0.5-1)
warning: xorg-xinput: ignoring package upgrade (1.5.3-2 => 1.5.99.1-1)
warning: xorg-xkbcomp: ignoring package upgrade (1.2.3-1 => 1.2.4-1)
warning: xorg-xkbevd: ignoring package upgrade (1.1.2-3 => 1.1.3-1)
warning: xorg-xmodmap: ignoring package upgrade (1.0.5-3 => 1.0.6-1)

Last edited by goetzkluge (2012-03-24 12:16:05)

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#19 2012-03-27 09:25:09

piachball
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Registered: 2011-06-06
Posts: 16

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

goetzkluge wrote:

FYI: The recent (2012-03-24) update would cause trouble too.

Accourding to this comment https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28938#comment90998 problem with old cards will not be corrected in Arch linux. I hope they will change they minds, because so many people use linux especially on old hardware.

Last edited by piachball (2012-03-27 09:25:36)

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#20 2012-03-27 10:07:47

Gusar
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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

piachball wrote:

Accourding to this comment https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28938#comment90998 problem with old cards will not be corrected in Arch linux. I hope they will change they minds, because so many people use linux especially on old hardware.

That bug is about 3d, and 3d only, on old cards. This thread is about radeon cards, which are anything but old. S this thread has no relation whatsoever with that bug.

This thread is about two things:
One, downgrading X to 1.11 because fglrx doesn't support 1.12. Here downgrading is the thing to do because fglrx is a closed driver and it's not in out power to change it, we have to wait for AMD to provide 1.12 support.

And two, it seems not even the xf86-video-ati driver is working with 1.12. However, in this case downgrading is not a "solution". At least report a bug about it first, reporting the error messages you get. In this particular case, the driver fails because of an undefined symbol: pciTag. The git version of xf86-video-ati fixes this. The Arch devs have compiled git versions of other drivers to make them compatible with 1.12, but not ati. A bug should be opened, informing them that they should do so. *That* is the proper solution.

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#21 2012-03-29 09:57:56

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Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

I just upgraded to xorg-server and during start see an error in my xdm.log
/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: pciTag
Can anybody help with this?
Thanks in advance.

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#22 2012-03-29 15:59:21

whatshisname
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Posts: 148

Re: cannot get xorg to work at all

dmitryg wrote:

I just upgraded to xorg-server and during start see an error in my xdm.log
/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: pciTag
Can anybody help with this?
Thanks in advance.

You have an ATI card so you may be able to fix it by following the instructions in the post just above yours.

Or you can roll your version of Xorg back to its previous level and In /etc/pacman.conf, enter:

# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
IgnorePkg = xorg-server-common
IgnoreGroup = xorg

There may be other solutions but those are 2 that work off the top of my head.

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