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#1 2012-04-16 03:33:13

ArchiMark
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[SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Did netinstall of Arch on my little Fujitsu U820 convertible tabletPC.

Overall, install seemed to go OK and I am able to boot up Arch and use console.

However, having problem getting X up and running. Hope someone can please advise.

I have followed the post-Arch Install instructions on the Beginner's Wiki page and other related pages such as the Poulsbo page.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Po … repository

According to the Poulsbo page, I should have the Kernel's psb-gfx module installed as part of Arch install. However, when I did as noted on that page:

$ modprobe -l | grep psb
kernel/drivers/staging/gma500/psb_gfx.ko.gz

I get error message:

modprobe:  invalid option -- 'l'

From searching on this issue, it seems that Arch has changed modprobe and is using kmod now?
What is equivalent command for the above now?

When I do startx I get the following error messages:

Parse error on line 41 of section InputClass in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
           "Section" is not a valid keyword in this section.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error


I thought about trying to use the fbdev Xorg driver instead for now, but the Poulsbo page says you also need to install the '915resolution-static' package but the repository for it is no longer online.....

Any suggestions as to how to get X up and running?

Thanks.

Last edited by ArchiMark (2012-04-26 19:01:33)


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#2 2012-04-16 07:34:50

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

I would post the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf


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#3 2012-04-16 11:10:12

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Just try plain modprobe, without any options. Do you use /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? If yes, post it's contents. It would also be helpful if you posted xorg log. And last thing, have you tried running it on vesa driver?

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#4 2012-04-16 13:47:39

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

chamber wrote:

I would post the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "evdev pointer catchall"
              MatchIsPointer "on"
              MatchDevIcePath "/dev/input/event*"
              Driver "evdev"
EndSection

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "evdev keyboard catchall"
              MatchIsKeyboard "on"
              MatchDevIcePath "/dev/input/event*"
              Driver "evdev"
EndSection

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "evdev touchpad catchall"
              MatchIsTouchpad "on"
              MatchDevIcePath "/dev/input/event*"
              Driver "evdev"
EndSection

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "evdev tablet catchall"
              MatchIsTablet "on"
              MatchDevIcePath "/dev/input/event*"
              Driver "evdev"
EndSection

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "evdev touchscreen catchall"
              MatchIsTouchscreen "on"
              MatchDevIcePath "/dev/input/event*"
              Driver "evdev"
EndSection

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "Keyboard Defaults"
              MatchIsKeyboard "yes"
              Option "XkbdOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection

Last section that I added to the list is from wiki regarding being about to use ctrl-alt-backspace keys to stop X

Last edited by ArchiMark (2012-04-16 15:02:37)


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#5 2012-04-16 13:49:34

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Small typo

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "Keyboard Defaults"
              MatchIsKeyboard "yes"
              Option "XkbdOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection


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#6 2012-04-16 14:01:52

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ludwis wrote:

Just try plain modprobe, without any options. Do you use /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? If yes, post it's contents. It would also be helpful if you posted xorg log. And last thing, have you tried running it on vesa driver?

When I do modprobe without any options, I get error messsage

Error: missing parameters. See -h.

No, don't have any /etc/X11/xorg.conf file....

As for xorg.log file, here's pertinent parts about errors....

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

Parse error on line 41 of section InputClass in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
"Section" is not a valid keyword in this section.
(EE) Problem parsing the config file
(EE) Error parsing the config file

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.


Last, no, have not tried using vesa driver....assume that you're implying that I should try that or ?

thanks.


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#7 2012-04-16 14:16:44

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ArchiMark wrote:

When I do modprobe without any options, I get error messsage

Sorry, my mistake, to list loaded kernel modules you should use 'lsmod' command. Did correcting the typo help?

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#8 2012-04-16 14:17:28

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ArchiMark,

The equivalent of modprobe -l is lsmod

Yes, you should try the vesa driver, as that would verify the Xorg configuration and at least get X running in a very basic and mostly unusable fashion.

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#9 2012-04-16 14:22:54

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Have you fixed the typo to see if that made any difference?


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#10 2012-04-16 15:02:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

chamber wrote:

Small typo

Section  "InputClass"
              Identifier "Keyboard Defaults"
              MatchIsKeyboard "yes"
              Option "XkbdOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
EndSection

Thanks you for catching that...

However, turns out the typo was in my posting here on the forum, not in my actual file....the " is there....

Error message refers to use of "Section" in this case....


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#11 2012-04-16 15:06:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ludwis wrote:
ArchiMark wrote:

When I do modprobe without any options, I get error messsage

Sorry, my mistake, to list loaded kernel modules you should use 'lsmod' command. Did correcting the typo help?

No worries...thanks....

Just tried 'lsmod as you suggest...however, I don't get any return message afterwards like in the example I quoted from the wiki....?

As for typo, as noted in my other recent post, the file was correct, but I made typo in posting this info...corrected my post up above...

However, I still have the error message there about use of "Section".....


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#12 2012-04-16 15:09:56

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ArchiMark,

What happens when you explicitly load the module using the command:

modprobe psb_gfx

?

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#13 2012-04-16 15:21:07

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ArchiMark wrote:
ludwis wrote:
ArchiMark wrote:

When I do modprobe without any options, I get error messsage

Sorry, my mistake, to list loaded kernel modules you should use 'lsmod' command. Did correcting the typo help?

No worries...thanks....

Just tried 'lsmod as you suggest...however, I don't get any return message afterwards like in the example I quoted from the wiki....?

As for typo, as noted in my other recent post, the file was correct, but I made typo in posting this info...corrected my post up above...

However, I still have the error message there about use of "Section".....

UPDATE:

When I do just 'lsmod' I do get a long list....and I do see the following:

video     9716  2  gma500_gfx.poulsbo

However, I have feeling that list is longer than what I can see on display....is there easy way to scroll through long lists in console?


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#14 2012-04-16 15:22:38

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

windscape wrote:

ArchiMark,

What happens when you explicitly load the module using the command:

modprobe psb_gfx

?

I get the following:

FATAL: Module psb_gfx not found.


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#15 2012-04-16 15:24:20

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

windscape wrote:

ArchiMark,

The equivalent of modprobe -l is lsmod

Yes, you should try the vesa driver, as that would verify the Xorg configuration and at least get X running in a very basic and mostly unusable fashion.


Installed vesa driver and tried 'startx'

I get the same error messages.....  ;(


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#16 2012-04-16 15:26:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Here you have a working file from Arch wiki. Try it out and if that fails, try moving that file to another location and see what happens if you launch X without it.

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#17 2012-04-16 15:27:14

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Should it also not be

	Section "InputClass"
				  Identifier "Keyboard Defaults"
				  MatchIsKeyboard "yes"
				  Option  "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
	EndSection

Note, XkbOptions as opposed to XkbdOptions as you have?

Or was that another typo?


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#18 2012-04-16 15:45:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Wait a sec. Your chipset is an embedded Intel System Controller Hub US15W. Why do you have the drivers for a GMA chipset?

Do you have the latest linux firmware package and stuff?


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#19 2012-04-16 15:56:09

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

sealclubber wrote:

Wait a sec. Your chipset is an embedded Intel System Controller Hub US15W. Why do you have the drivers for a GMA chipset?

US15W contains Poulsbo aka GMA500 graphics. Which is a big pain in the behind. The in-kernel gma500 driver is modesetting-only, no userspace driver for it, so you either use xf86-video-fbdev or xf86-video-modesetting with it. Of course there's no acceleration with those.

Then there's some closed drivers. But those only work with specific old versions of the kernel and X. Good luck getting that working. And I really mean that. Search AUR for poulsbo, there's some stuff there.

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#20 2012-04-16 15:57:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

chamber wrote:

Should it also not be

	Section "InputClass"
				  Identifier "Keyboard Defaults"
				  MatchIsKeyboard "yes"
				  Option  "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
	EndSection

Note, XkbOptions as opposed to XkbdOptions as you have?

Or was that another typo?

Sorry, that was another typo in posting here.....it is typed correctly in actual file....


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#21 2012-04-16 16:06:38

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Is it still saying that line 41 is the error? If so what is at line 41?


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#22 2012-04-16 16:08:08

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

ludwis wrote:

Here you have a working file from Arch wiki. Try it out and if that fails, try moving that file to another location and see what happens if you launch X without it.

Bingo!!!!!!!!

I edited my file to be like this one....tried 'startx' again and Voila!!! I got 3 terminal windows open on my screen now!!!

Thanks! and to everyone else here for their help with this......

So, next?.....


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#23 2012-04-16 16:09:56

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

sealclubber wrote:

Wait a sec. Your chipset is an embedded Intel System Controller Hub US15W. Why do you have the drivers for a GMA chipset?

Do you have the latest linux firmware package and stuff?

From what I understand, the U820 uses the Poulsbo....which is same as the Intel System Controller Hub US15W.....

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo


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#24 2012-04-16 16:11:40

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Gusar wrote:
sealclubber wrote:

Wait a sec. Your chipset is an embedded Intel System Controller Hub US15W. Why do you have the drivers for a GMA chipset?

US15W contains Poulsbo aka GMA500 graphics. Which is a big pain in the behind. The in-kernel gma500 driver is modesetting-only, no userspace driver for it, so you either use xf86-video-fbdev or xf86-video-modesetting with it. Of course there's no acceleration with those.

Then there's some closed drivers. But those only work with specific old versions of the kernel and X. Good luck getting that working. And I really mean that. Search AUR for poulsbo, there's some stuff there.

Spiffy. I have what feels like enough laptops to DDoS South Korea so more information for embedded stuff is always helpful. Thanks!


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#25 2012-04-16 16:12:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Installd Arch -But Can't Get X Runn'g-HowToSetupNetConn?

Don't forget to mark your thread as solved.


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