[SOLVED] GIMP can only save XCF. bzip, gzip.

Gallardo994 · 2012-05-07 00:06:39

Hi all. I had used GIMP 2.6 before -Syu, then it installed GIMP 2.8. After this upgrade, i can't save files to PNG, JPG, etc... (XCF, bzip, gzip only). The strange thing is that GIMP still can open PNG and other files, but it can't save. What can be the problem? The only thing terminal says when i start GIMP:

Gimp-Widgets-CRITICAL **: gimp_device_info_set_device: assertion `(info->device == NULL && GDK_IS_DEVICE (device)) || (GDK_IS_DEVICE (info->device) && device == NULL)' failed

Is there any way to solve this problem?

Last edited by Gallardo994 (2012-05-07 15:50:23)

graysky · 2012-05-07 00:11:29

Select 'export' from the file menu rather than 'save.'

ChemBro · 2012-05-07 07:35:28

Gallardo994 wrote:

i can't save files to PNG, JPG, etc... (XCF, bzip, gzip only).

This is intended.

DSpider · 2012-05-07 09:55:55

It was easier before. You could just add a ".png" extension and save it as a PNG. What were they thinking?? On the other hand, it was about damn time GIMP had a single-window interface. It always pissed me off that it needed 3 separate windows.

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triton60 · 2012-05-07 14:05:41

DSpider wrote:

It was easier before. You could just add a ".png" extension and save it as a PNG. What were they thinking?? On the other hand, it was about damn time GIMP had a single-window interface. It always pissed me off that it needed 3 separate windows.

I used to think the same about exporting when I tried the 2.7.x version but actually prefer it now.

Say I am working on an image (xcf) and I want to export it, hit Ctrl+E (Export To), select or type the name of the file to export it to, include the extension ".png" and hit the Export button. Now if I continue working on the file and want to export it again I simply hit Ctrl+E, it saves it over the file I saved previously, no dialog to fill out or anything, it is a lot quicker this way.

I like the single-window mode but would have liked to be able to have images side by side rather than being forced to have them tabbed.

Andrew.

Gallardo994 · 2012-05-07 15:49:59

Thanks, this new GIMP 2.8 is a bit confusing. I saw this 'Export' only after you said about it, lol.

dbb · 2012-05-07 16:14:54

DSpider wrote:

It was easier before. You could just add a ".png" extension and save it as a PNG. What were they thinking??

It makes sense in that XCF is the only format that can "save" the full state of the image as you're working on it. The "export" metaphor makes the fact that you're losing state when saving as the other formats more explicit.

ngoonee · 2012-05-08 01:42:48

For more information, check out the LONG thread currently running on this in the gimp-users ML. Basically the devs wanted to clarify the difference between 'save' and 'export', since PNG/JPG or whatever can't really be considered 'save's of the edit information.

drankinatty · 2012-07-12 14:47:31

Not to throw water on the fire, but this is exactly what destroys open-source acceptance by the wider/business community. 1-2 developers decided to change the traditional, well-developed open/save dialog behavior to suit their individual taste and then forced their preference on millions of users without the courtesy of soliciting any user input on the issue. The new open/save dialog in 2.8 does not allow saving as anything other than xcf. While exporting isn't difficult, it interjects unnecessary intermediate steps that discards all flexibility originally built into the open/save dialog - developed over many years with user input. If you only need to save as a jpeg or png, after exporting, you are left with an unwanted 'untitled' image that remains on the screen that you must kill after you are done. Gimp's response "those people affected by the change are low-level users and would be better off using something else like digikam...." We would all do well to learn from this example. </rant>

Psyconaughty · 2012-07-26 15:36:53

drankinatty wrote:

... but this is exactly what destroys open-source acceptance by the wider/business community.

This has nothing to do with being open-source. Just go look at Microsoft Office's Excel and try to open two instances, it woun't let you (Unless you go in and change a few thing which is actually hard to find). This never happened in previous iterations. Having thing change for better or worse happens all the time in program development in both open-source and non open-source.

hesse · 2012-07-27 19:29:51

drankinatty wrote:

Not to throw water on the fire ..

Well, you mean gasoline?

DSpider · 2012-07-27 19:44:10

It depends on the fire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmdEhyxHcpE

Zancarius · 2012-07-27 21:53:16

drankinatty wrote:

While exporting isn't difficult, it interjects unnecessary intermediate steps that discards all flexibility originally built into the open/save dialog - developed over many years with user input. If you only need to save as a jpeg or png, after exporting, you are left with an unwanted 'untitled' image that remains on the screen that you must kill after you are done.

The other side of the coin is that separating export/save can help reduce the chance that a user might destroy their source XCF by saving as a PNG and then exiting GIMP. It isn't something that has caused me a great deal of grief, but it's a welcome change. Yes, it's awkward and introduces another step, but it's a feature I can grow to appreciate.

That said, there are things I don't like about 2.8 mostly related to window behavioral changes that make previous use cases somewhat difficult, but IIRC, at least one of the issues I encountered was a known but relatively minor bug. I've been holding off on updating from 2.6 until it's fixed (horray for custom PKGBUILDs!), but I'm pretty confident that 2.8 will be much welcomed once they iron out a few more issues. There are a few improvements I really like.

Arch Linux

#1 2012-05-07 00:06:39

[SOLVED] GIMP can only save XCF. bzip, gzip.

#2 2012-05-07 00:11:29

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#3 2012-05-07 07:35:28

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#4 2012-05-07 09:55:55

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#5 2012-05-07 14:05:41

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#8 2012-05-08 01:42:48

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#9 2012-07-12 14:47:31

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