Mutt and msmtp - I just can't get mutt to send

lambretta · 2012-05-09 07:53:20

Hello all, I have been battling with this for some time, I hope you can help.

I have been running arch for several years now and thought I might start using mutt. I have installed the version from the AUR with the side bar patch (version 1.5.21) and have it retrieving my email from an email server that I run.

I initially tried to use mutt's new in built SNMP functionality but couldn't get it to work with my server. My server uses TLS/SSL plain text auth but is listening on a non standard port.

My .muttrc is as follows

########
#muttrc by martin thanks to brisbin
########

set realname = "Martin"
set imap_user = "martin@mymailserver.com"
set imap_pass = "somepassword"
set folder=imaps://mymailserver.com:8993/
set spoolfile=+INBOX
set record=imaps://mail.mymailserver.com/Sent
set imap_check_subscribed
set certificate_file    = ~/.mutt/cert_file                 # where to store certs
set mailcap_path        = ~/.mutt/mailcap                       # entrys for filetypes
source ~/.mutt/colours
set from="martin@my.mailserver.com"
set sendmail = "/usr/bin/msmtp"
set ssl_verify_host = no
set ssl_verify_dates = no
set use_from=yes
#set envelope_from=yes

############
# main options
############
  set beep_new                                                    # terminal bell on new message
unset confirmappend                                               # don't ask, just do
  set delete                                                      # don't ask, just do
  set mail_check          = 0                                     # minimum time between scans
unset markers                                                     # no ugly plus signs
unset mark_old                                                    # read/new is good enough for me
  set menu_scroll                                                 # scroll in menus
  set pager_index_lines   = 10                                    # number of index lines to show
  set pager_context       = 5                                     # number of context lines to show
  set pager_stop                                                  # don't go to next message automatically
  set pipe_decode                                                 # strip headers and eval mimes when piping
  set reverse_alias                                               # show names from alias file in index
#set sort                = threads                               # like gmail
#set sort_aux            = reverse-last-date-received            # like gmail
#unset sort_re                                                     # always thread
  set thorough_search                                             # strip headers and eval mimes before searching
  set thread_received                                             # sort threads by date received, not sent
  set tilde                                                       # show tildes like in vim
  set timeout             = 3                                     # idle time before scanning
unset wait_key                                                    # don't show "Press any key to continue"
unset resolve                                                    # stops attachjments being downloaded
########
# sidebar settings
#######
  set sidebar_visible = yes
  set sidebar_width   = 25

  set sidebar_delim =               '|'
  set status_format = "-%r- %v ------+----/ %f %m%?n? [+%n]?%?d? [-%d]?%?t? [*%t]? /%?p?---/ %p waiting to send /?-%>-(%P)---"

# colors
color sidebar_new brightyellow black

# sidebar bindings
bind index,pager \CJ sidebar-next
bind index,pager \CK sidebar-prev
bind index,pager \CB sidebar-open

My .msmtprc file is as follows (which I have sodt linked the /etc/msmtprc just incase....

account home
host mail.mymailserver.com
port 8465
protocol smtp
logfile /home/martin/.newmsmtp.log
auth plain
user martin@mymailserver.com
from martin@mymailserver.com
tls on
tls_certcheck off
tls_starttls off
tls_force_sslv3 on

account default : home

I have confirmed the path to msmpt and have confirmed it is getting passed to mutt ok by using the "set: sendmail" command.

If I try sending in mutt it errors out with an SSL error but this error never seems to change regardless of what I do to the msmtprc, in fact if I delete the password field in the msmtprs mutt doesn't even ask for the password (I have tried it with and without passwords in the msmptrc - no change. The precise error message when trying to send from mutt that shows down the bottom of the terminal is

SSL failed: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol

This would explain thing but, if I send a test email direct from the CLI using msmtp eg

echo "Please prevent me from throwing this against the wall" | msmtp -a home me@mymailserver.com

it sends OK and asks me for the password when I send as well.

I'm at my wits end and have spent numerous hours o it in an effort to get it working. There must be something simple I am missing. Anyone's help is appreciated.

jasonwryan · 2012-05-09 08:06:55

Have you tried with

auth on

This directs msmtp to choose the best method - it may help.

Also, I use the following settings:

tls on
tls_nocertcheck

And note the point in the man page about sslv3:

This might be needed to use SSL with some old and broken servers. Do not use this unless you have to.

lambretta · 2012-05-09 08:14:22

jasonwryan wrote:

Have you tried with
auth on
This directs msmtp to choose the best method - it may help.
Also, I use the following settings:
tls on
tls_nocertcheck
And note the point in the man page about sslv3:
This might be needed to use SSL with some old and broken servers. Do not use this unless you have to.

"tls_nocertcheck" is the old "tls_certcheck off"
"tls on" is set
Its not an old email server build (and I hope not broken) but I do have "tls_force_sslv3 on" set

I'm moderately comfortable with the msmtp config being ok and working given I can send email from the CLI, its the talking between mutt and msmtp that I'm not convinced is working but thanks for the help. :-)

linux-ka · 2012-05-09 08:16:48

my first lines in msmtprc are as well

defaults
tls on
tls_starttls on 
#tls_trust_file /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
tls_certcheck off
logfile ~/.msmtp.log

Maybe that's the missing link....

lambretta · 2012-05-09 08:36:13

linux-ka wrote:

my first lines in msmtprc are as well
defaults
tls on
tls_starttls on 
#tls_trust_file /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
tls_certcheck off
logfile ~/.msmtp.log
Maybe that's the missing link....

Thanks but I'm not sure it is in fact the config for msmtp that is the problem given I *can* send from CLI direct through msmtp.

Any idea how I check to make sure mutt is calling msmtp when I go to send an email?

jasonwryan · 2012-05-09 08:44:12

I specifically call the account with the -a flag. So, in my .mutt config, I have

set sendmail  = "/usr/bin/msmtp -a JWR"

lambretta · 2012-05-09 09:00:26

jasonwryan wrote:

I specifically call the account with the -a flag. So, in my .mutt config, I have
set sendmail  = "/usr/bin/msmtp -a JWR"

Thanks, have tried that as well, no change, I even included -X path/to/logfile and it doesn't show anything in the log from the attempts from mutt, all that is there are the test sends I completed using the CLI.

:-(

jasonwryan · 2012-05-09 09:24:22

Have you tried commenting out

set ssl_verify_host = no
set ssl_verify_dates = no

lambretta · 2012-05-09 09:33:53

jasonwryan wrote:

Have you tried commenting out
set ssl_verify_host = no
set ssl_verify_dates = no

Just then - no change :'-(

lambretta · 2012-05-10 14:14:14

Good evening all.

Passing mutt- v find sthat it doesn't appear to be chnaging the sendmail path.....

Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 3.3.4-2-ARCH (i686)
ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9)
libidn: 1.24 (compiled with 1.24)
hcache backend: GDBM version 1.10. 13/11/2011 (built Nov 19 2011 00:26:19)
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  -DL_STANDALONE  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK   
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  +USE_SMTP  
+USE_SSL_OPENSSL  -USE_SSL_GNUTLS  +USE_SASL  +USE_GSS  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
-HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME  +CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE  
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
-MIXMASTER
To contact the developers, please mail to <mutt-dev@mutt.org>.
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.

patch-1.5.16hg.cd.trash_folder.vl.1
sidebar-1.5.21-5 (debian-version)

The thing is I do not have sendmail installed.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this or is it a bug?

Cheers.

linux-ka · 2012-05-10 14:19:22

My mutt -v displays the same, but msmtp is set to me the MDA. However, mutt uses msmtp to send mails, since sendmail is not installed.

Have you tried to change the mutt version? I guess I run muttng, which works pretty well.

lambretta · 2012-05-10 14:24:43

Yep - this is doing my head in. I'll try another version from he AUR. This time uber-mutt 1.5.21-1

skanky · 2012-05-10 15:51:06

Have you tried the standard mutt from extra?

I use msmtp, but not tls so can't help with the actual issue.
The sendmail in the version is (I think) the compiled in default.

If you can't find the issue, you should try the mutt mailing list, the developers are on it and there's a load of usually helpful people on it. I'd be surprised if there aren't any on a similar set-up.

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#1 2012-05-09 07:53:20

Mutt and msmtp - I just can't get mutt to send

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