Is there any tiling WM with graphical effects support?

Jofsey · 2012-05-19 14:08:14

I know, that programmer's happiness is not about rich 3D-effects of windows manager. But all tiling WMs that I've find looks like really old-school.

And my question:
Is there any tiling WM not necessarily with rich 3D-effects but at least with qualitatively drawed panels and some animation?

I ask it of tiling WM, not plugin to use composing WM as tiling.

Trilby · 2012-05-19 14:14:02

Most tilers can use any panels that could be used in other WMs. What is it you want animated?

I'd suggest you check out the threads for various tilers. The "stock" configuration for most of them is quite plain, but many users configure them to look wonderful. I suspect this bland stock look is intentional; these WM's are written for people who want control of all those details, so why set fancy defaults when they are all going to be changed anyway.

litemotiv · 2012-05-19 14:16:23

I think you're just looking for Compiz. There are some tiling plugins available for it or you could write one yourself.

drcouzelis · 2012-05-19 16:28:43

Here's what I know about X: There's two ways to draw windows. Please bear in mind that I'm not an X expert and I'll probably get the terminology wrong, but the general idea of what I mean to say should be here.

Standard

This is how most WM draw to the screen. X is very old. It didn't have many "special effects" built into it, and can barely handle anything one might consider fancy. That is why in WM such as Window Maker and the GNOME 2 Metacity the minimize / maximize animation is an incredibly boring black-rectangle-shrinking-or-growing thingy. That's about all that's possible. I like to disable those animations, because they look kind of ridiculous to me.

Composited

Requires support from a video card driver and takes some extra processing power. This type of drawing has been implemented in the KDE Kwin and Compiz. It can also be used in any WM via a separate application like xcompmgr. It provides fancy effects such as drop shaddows and window shrinking / growing.

I used to want something inbetween. You know, that looked nice but didn't require any sort of special video card. I kind of get the feeling that you're looking for that too. Well, there is no inbetween. It's either "fancy" like Compiz or "boring" like Awesome.

Anyway, you could easily just go through the list of all of the tiling window managers listed on the Arch Linux wiki and try them all out in less than half an hour an pretty much answer your own question.

Trilby · 2012-05-19 17:04:04

If Drcouzelis is right about what you want, I'd argue that xcompmg is the in-between. Xcompmgr is quite lightweight (by every meaning). It has few dependencies, probably none that you wouldn't already have, is quite small itself, and its resource (cpu/mem) use while running is nearly undetectable. I use xcompmgr on all my systems. It seems to do anything worth doing that is done by the 'big' compositors. Sure, it wont make a window burst into a ball of flames when you minimize it, but I'm still looking for users who actually want all that crap. It's a fun novelty to play with for a few minutes, but it's absolutely ridiculous for day-to-day use.

litemotiv · 2012-05-19 17:34:39

Trilby wrote:

If Drcouzelis is right about what you want, I'd argue that xcompmg is the in-between. Xcompmgr is quite lightweight (by every meaning). It has few dependencies, probably none that you wouldn't already have, is quite small itself, and its resource (cpu/mem) use while running is nearly undetectable. I use xcompmgr on all my systems. It seems to do anything worth doing that is done by the 'big' compositors. Sure, it wont make a window burst into a ball of flames when you minimize it, but I'm still looking for users who actually want all that crap. It's a fun novelty to play with for a few minutes, but it's absolutely ridiculous for day-to-day use.

But it only does transparency and shadows right? That doesn't really qualify as 'effects'...

It alo has some drawbacks on some systems (like mine), like disappearing cursors in urxvt.

Cloudef · 2012-05-19 17:41:11

https://github.com/Cloudef/monsterwm/tr … site-multi
Nothing works there yet though correctly, and I don't have time for it.
Compiz is too unstable for this and they complicated it even more by switching to c++ which was bad move, and all the tiling plugins suck for it.

X is not really suited for composing either, just wait for wayland. They already have dwm variant for it and since it's wayland it's all composited already.

Last edited by Cloudef (2012-05-19 17:41:41)

rcman · 2018-03-23 05:47:42

Yes. Enlightenement and moksha
just enable the tilling module

WorMzy · 2018-03-23 11:59:16

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Is there any tiling WM with graphical effects support?

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