SystemD ugly boot

thoho180192 · 2012-07-14 22:15:40

Why does systemD have to be so ugly when booting? The SysVinit which is beeing used by Archlinux today have fancy colors and done text. It looks clean and neat.

Is it possible to get it to look better?

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tomegun · 2012-07-14 22:58:50

I guess it depends on your taste. But systemd boot looks fine for me. Colors indicating OK/FAILED/... and messages about what is / has been started.

Without more information it is not easy to tell if you have encountered a bug or not....

thoho180192 · 2012-07-14 23:01:22

I havent switched yet. I've just been watching a few youtube movies with Archlinux and sysD and it dosnt look as good as the current init system.

I think Im going to install and see for myself though.

Thanks for reply.

ataraxia · 2012-07-15 00:00:08

By default, the systemd boot doesn't say anything. I see the bootloader text, and then one line of output from fsck preening the root filesystem, and then the screen clears and the getty login prompt appears. It's possible to get detailed status output from systemd during the boot (see systemd's homepage for a Fedora-based example of this), but it's not enabled by default.

thoho180192 · 2012-07-15 00:59:35

I've installed systemD now and it actually both look and work great. I have one problem thou. I cant enable networkmanager and the gdm service.
It gives me a error message reading "Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory"

Wiki says it should work so I dont know.

Do I need the archlinux units package? I thought that were to get old configs to work.

Rasi · 2012-07-15 08:22:39

thoho180192 wrote:

I cant enable networkmanager and the gdm service.
It gives me a error message reading "Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory".

you need to add ".service" - also networkmanager.service doesnt exist, its called NetworkManager.service

so you do:

systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
systemctl enable gdm.service

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65kid · 2012-07-15 08:34:19

gdm.service is part of systemd-arch-units

thoho180192 · 2012-07-15 12:30:01

Thanks

It was an easy switch. Im running systemD without sysvinit and its much faster then it used to be
Thanks for the help

ANOKNUSA · 2012-07-15 13:35:05

thoho180192 wrote:

I havent switched yet. I've just been watching a few youtube movies with Archlinux and sysD and it dosnt look as good as the current init system.
I think Im going to install and see for myself though.
Thanks for reply.

So... this is solved, or what? Was there ever any real problem?

I'm being rhetorical. Half-baked film criticism is the sort of stuff blogs are made for. Really, how long do you need to look at boot info before a login prompt? If it's really a problem for you, use a splash screen.

thoho180192 · 2012-07-15 13:43:15

Good point

I've tried some splash screens in the past. Never got satisfied. Nothing compares to the beautiful Arch SysV boot, but ofcourse this systemD thing is extremly fast compared to the old one. I think I can manage.

Mr. Alex · 2012-07-18 16:49:01

thoho180192 wrote:

Why does systemD have to be so ugly when booting?

Looks like Debian. I wouldn't say ugly. Just different. The most beautiful booting IMO has Gentoo. Even better than Arch.

flying sheep · 2012-08-06 19:02:30

heh, i have this first-nerd-problem, too.

surely the only way is to patch systemd to use arch-blue?

thoho180192 · 2012-08-07 14:32:53

Think so

burninate · 2012-08-21 19:47:42

It's systemd not SystemD

ANOKNUSA · 2012-08-21 23:13:49

I think we all know what the OP meant.

muffinss · 2012-08-22 03:16:56

I switched over to systemd and I have to say, I am amazed how fast it boots up. I really don't mind that it isn't pretty because it doesn't stay on the loading screen for very long. Like three seconds for me lol.

flying sheep · 2012-08-25 18:09:31

wow, i’ve located how it’s done:

in the file systemd/src/core/job.c is a function job_print_status_message(Unit *u, JobType t, JobResult result)

it contains this:

                switch (result) {

                case JOB_DONE:
                        if (u->condition_result)
                                unit_status_printf(u, ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_GREEN_ON "  OK  " ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_OFF, format, unit_description(u));
                        break;

                case JOB_FAILED:
                        unit_status_printf(u, ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_RED_ON "FAILED" ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_OFF, format, unit_description(u));
                        unit_status_printf(u, "", "See 'systemctl status %s' for details.", u->id);
                        break;

                case JOB_DEPENDENCY:
                        unit_status_printf(u, ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_YELLOW_ON "DEPEND" ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_OFF, format, unit_description(u));
                        break;

                case JOB_TIMEOUT:
                        unit_status_printf(u, ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_RED_ON " TIME " ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_OFF, format, unit_description(u));
                        break;

                default:
                        ;
                }

all hard-coded! man, that’s not going to change

Trilby · 2012-08-25 18:18:49

flying sheep wrote:

all hard-coded! man, that’s not going to change

Why not? Just use the constant ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_BLUE_ON if it exists, or change the definition of ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_GREEN_ON to actually be blue.

Hell, it could hardly be easier to change.

thoho180192 · 2012-08-27 03:19:32

Anyone got that code working?

z1lt0id · 2012-09-20 05:15:47

I had some warning messages pop regarding AMDs cool and quiet which is a known bug in the kernel. So I just installed Plymouth so I didn't have to look at it.

bwat47 · 2012-09-20 13:20:26

I wouldn't call it ugly just because its not blue, I think it looks fine.

MrCode · 2012-09-20 21:15:24

Trilby wrote:

Why not? Just use the constant ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_BLUE_ON if it exists, or change the definition of ANSI_HIGHLIGHT_GREEN_ON to actually be blue.
Hell, it could hardly be easier to change.

I think flying sheep would simply rather not have to recompile systemd just to change one simple thing that (IMHO) really should be externally configurable.

As for me, I don't even see them; I have 'quiet' in my kernel cmd line.

EDIT: Not to mention, you'd have to re-apply this patch every time a systemd update rolled around.

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cfr · 2012-09-20 23:16:20

It should be configurable for accessibility reasons. Red/green colour blindness is the most common form and people shouldn't have to recompile systemd in order to easily distinguish successes from failures.

kokoko3k · 2012-09-21 07:28:49

@cfr: Good point!

alexanderthegre · 2012-09-21 18:22:18

It should be configurable for accessibility reasons. Red/green colour blindness is the most common form and people shouldn't have to recompile systemd in order to easily distinguish successes from failures.

I'm red-green colorblin-- wait a second, it's green!? [/joke]

Really, though, this should be configurable. I'll look at the code and see if I could write a patch. (I'm not that great of a coder, but this shouldn't be too hard.)

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