How to (net) Install Archlinux with media 2012.07.15

ebal · 2012-07-25 11:47:40

a basic net-installation

without any menu installer
without any automate script

a very simple howto with cmds and screenshots

http://ebalaskas.gr/wiki/archlinux/netinstall

Radioactiveman · 2012-07-25 12:07:19

Nice work!

Some suggestions:
- Use genfstab to create /etc/fstab
- Use grub instead of grub-legacy

sml · 2012-07-25 13:25:52

wow .. quite different to the official guide ... so confusing .... after 7 years of using arch, i'm never going to get it installed again

2ManyDogs · 2012-07-25 13:39:11

sml wrote:

wow .. quite different to the official guide ... so confusing .... after 7 years of using arch, i'm never going to get it installed again

I hope you're joking. Have you seen the Official Guide or the Beginners' Guide recently? Many people actually find the new process easier than the old AIF.

ngoonee · 2012-07-25 13:46:34

Why not just contribute to our own wiki rather than putting it on a 3rd-party site?

DSpider · 2012-07-25 14:02:40

Because screenshots.

Maoarrr screenshots!!! MMMOOOOOAAAAAARRRRRRR!!!<3<3<3

(from the irc channel)

Potomac · 2012-07-25 21:24:43

ebal wrote:

a basic net-installation
without any menu installer
without any automate script
a very simple howto with cmds and screenshots

http://ebalaskas.gr/wiki/archlinux/netinstall

but in your "how-to" you forgot one thing in the network configuration part :

---> the case of a static IP network configuration ( setting an IP address, gateway, dns address )

RealGecko · 2012-07-30 17:00:18

Sorry for noobing, but will there be fresh core image available?

2ManyDogs · 2012-07-30 17:03:10

RealGecko wrote:

Sorry for noobing, but will there be fresh core image available?

If by "core image" you mean an iso using the old install method, that's not going to happen. With the new method you don't need a new image because it gets everything fresh when you install it.

Check out the Beginners' Guide -- the new process is really not that hard.

Last edited by 2ManyDogs (2012-07-30 17:04:20)

karol · 2012-07-30 17:09:33

RealGecko wrote:

Sorry for noobing, but will there be fresh core image available?

You can download the needed packages yourself: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cu … FDVD.2FISO

anonymous_user · 2012-07-30 17:10:26

RealGecko wrote:

Sorry for noobing, but will there be fresh core image available?

Nope:

Instead of six different images we only provide a single one which can be booted into an i686 and x86_64 live system to install Arch Linux over the network. Media containing the [core] repository are no longer provided.

http://www.archlinux.org/news/install-m … -released/

You can however install packages from a USB/CD:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cu … FDVD.2FISO

edit: and Karol beat me to it

Last edited by anonymous_user (2012-07-30 17:10:48)

RealGecko · 2012-07-30 19:39:11

anonymous_user wrote:

Nope

It`s a pity. I used core image for quick installation to perform experiments using Virtual Box. Now installation process takes much longer. It is not hard, but takes much time

karol · 2012-07-30 19:52:18

RealGecko wrote:

It`s a pity. I used core image for quick installation to perform experiments using Virtual Box. Now installation process takes much longer. It is not hard, but takes much time

Isn't it possible to create only one virtual image and clone it so that you setup things just once?
What kind of experiments do you have in mind?

Last edited by karol (2012-07-30 19:52:33)

ebal · 2012-07-30 20:09:47

First of all, thank you all for your feedback.

I wasnt hooked on internet for almost a week and i've just saw hits and comments.
I believe i can make some small fixes according to suggestions.

@Radioactiveman

at the mini tutorial i've made (mostly for personal use and reference) i didnt want to use a distro script (like genfstab) so people would understand better what is that step and how important is it.

I didnt find grub at iso (perhaps i wasnt looking for that).
I didnt want to install packages from a chroot environment.

@ngoonee

This 3rd-party site is my site and i didnt know that i can actually do that (contribute to archlinux wiki) without any problem or a discussion before. If you have read my wiki, i dont follow archlinux instructions but rather do my things.

@Potomac

I would add a section for static IP (ipv4 only).

But if there is a dhcp server, use it (easiest) and after rebooting to your system, configure it according to your static IP ruleset.

@RealGecko

ArchLinux is evolving every day. At this point, a core image is out-dated too fast.
Net install is the "proper" installation method. Perhaps a nightly core could be in releases

karol · 2012-07-30 20:15:46

ebal wrote:

Perhaps a nightly core could be in releases

That would use a lot of server space, I doubt it's going to happen.

ebal · 2012-07-30 20:17:15

arent we living in days that storage is cheap ?

karol · 2012-07-30 20:31:55

ebal wrote:

arent we living in days that storage is cheap ?

I have no idea how are we doing wrt to donations.

ANOKNUSA · 2012-07-30 23:52:49

ebal wrote:

Perhaps a nightly core could be in releases

The point is moot, as the moment the user boots up a fresh core installation, one needs to download the latest version of every package that just got ripped from the CD to the hard disk, thus completely negating the point of doing anything other than a net-install. Nightly core builds are time-consuming, eat up server space and extra bandwidth and offer absolutely no benefit; if you don't have steady internet access, you've got no business using a rolling-release distribution. It's unfortunate, unfair and absolutely unavoidable.

ebal · 2012-07-31 05:10:28

@ANOKNUSA

I think you are missing the point on this.

The problem is when someone wants to perform an archlinux installation and there isnt any internet access or he/she has problems with the internet (missing drivers/firmware) or low internet access or similar problems.

A nightly or a weekly core iso (that can be overwriting or deleted if there is storage consideration) would give people the opportunity to quickly install a base system.

anonymous_user · 2012-07-31 05:26:26

But what would a person do with a base system and poor internet? How would you proceed installing X, a DE, user programs, etc?

ANOKNUSA · 2012-07-31 05:31:49

ebal wrote:

A nightly or a weekly core iso (that can be overwriting or deleted if there is storage consideration) would give people the opportunity to quickly install a base system.

And then what?

RealGecko · 2012-07-31 05:32:44

karol wrote:

Isn't it possible to create only one virtual image and clone it so that you setup things just once?

Yep, I think I`ll do so from now on.

karol wrote:

What kind of experiments do you have in mind?

Well as I said - I`m noob So I test some new features (new for me) in VirtualBox to keep my main system intact if something goes wrong.

RealGecko · 2012-07-31 05:46:14

ebal wrote:

The problem is when someone wants to perform an archlinux installation and there isnt any internet access or he/she has problems with the internet (missing drivers/firmware) or low internet access or similar problems.

anonymous_user wrote:

But what would a person do with a base system and poor internet? How would you proceed installing X, a DE, user programs, etc?

Well actually ebal is right, I once installed Arch and X and KDE on notebook with slow Internet. Everything was easy:
1) Installed base system from USB stick with 2011.08.19-core image.
2) copied pkg cache from my Arch PC to target notebook and then used poor Internet only to get pacman database from mirror, all packages were installed and updated from cache.
3) ?????
4) PROFIT!!!!111oneoneone

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