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#76 2005-09-14 22:08:49

slackhack
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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

dibblethewrecker wrote:

It's you.  They are approx the same size as the old ones.

maybe that explains it, as i thought the old ones were too big, too. tongue

dibblethewrecker wrote:

Erm...no.  I think that would badly affect the readability on the white background.

it doesn't seem to affect the readability of any of the other buttons on the forum, to me at least.  are you saying we should change every other button on the forum to be black on white instead of blue on white? :?:

dibblethewrecker wrote:

On another note, while we welcome criticism, more accurately we welcome timely criticism, you are a little behind smile

sorry, i didn't go back to read the entire thread. however, i thought the impressions of a relative newcomer would be relevant for giving a fresh perspective (standard practice in usability design, btw wink).

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#77 2005-09-14 22:24:03

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

slackhack wrote:
dibblethewrecker wrote:

Erm...no.  I think that would badly affect the readability on the white background.

it doesn't seem to affect the readability of any of the other buttons on the forum, to me at least.  are you saying we should change every other button on the forum to be black on white instead of blue on white? :?:

Fair point.  Let's kill this arguement tho - I like the black.

slackhack wrote:

sorry, i didn't go back to read the entire thread. however, i thought the impressions of a relative newcomer would be relevant for giving a fresh perspective (standard practice in usability design, btw wink).

You were wrong, it's a bit late for fresh perspectives; there has been a test site with these images running for a few weeks (standard practice in major upgrades, btw wink)

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#78 2005-09-14 22:31:37

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Yeaaaahy!  I just created a patch from scratch to update the mark forums and topics read to buttons - I must have learned something along the way smile  And it worked first go!

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#79 2005-09-14 22:45:20

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Nice!
So, that's why the forum was unavailable for a few minutes. tongue

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#80 2005-09-14 22:51:44

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Yeah, sorry, no time is a good time smile

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#81 2005-09-15 23:44:35

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Alrighty...here's the latest tarball (same place it was before): forum-buttons.tar.gz

I fixed the transparency issues with IE by simply assigning a white background for the time being.  I also manually adjusted all of the font kerning and anti-aliasing to hopefully make some of the small text a bit more readable.  Ohh, and your "New Post" button is included in there as well.  Let me know if it all looks okay!

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#82 2005-09-16 07:39:43

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Did you see my part about binary transparency to replace the white background?

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#83 2005-09-16 19:40:20

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Yep, I did read that.  Binary transparency is the same thing as index transparency, and that's what they were set to before...not sure why IE was choking.  I'll investigate further to see if I can't make it work correctly, but for now making the background white was the easiest way to make them consistent and get them all to you quickly.

Also, did the Art button work correctly for you in the latest tarball?  GQview had an error for me when I checked it last night.  Could just be this machine though...

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#84 2005-09-16 19:59:28

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Er...after all your speed I have not yet uploaded them.  TBH people who use IE are at the very bottom of my priority list...but seeing as you put the effort in smile

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#85 2005-09-16 20:01:01

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Art.png looks FUBAR to me

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#86 2005-09-17 04:51:14

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Roger that...not sure what happened there, but I've fixed/updated the tarball, and here's the individual button (if that makes it easier for you):

art.png

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#87 2005-09-17 05:04:08

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

I've seen a few CSS hacks laying around to workaround the IE PNG issue. I implemented one for a personal site some months back but IIRC it was a pain in ye 'ole arse.

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#88 2005-09-17 09:20:14

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

OK - they should all be updated - now we just need some mug to check with IE smile

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#89 2005-09-18 00:23:29

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Just checked them out in IE, and they look great...

BTW, I think it would be helpful to add a title attribute to the large buttons to explain them a bit.  Even if you just made AUR - 'Arch User Repository' or whatever, the tooltips would help people whom have never been to the forums or any of the various Arch sites before.

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#90 2005-09-18 08:20:55

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Yeah, I couldn't work out how to do that but I have now bothered to google for it smile

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#91 2005-09-18 21:04:53

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Ahhh...in case Google didn't help ya, you just have to add a <code>title="description"</code> attribute to the <code>a href</code> tag.  Something like this should do the trick:

<a href="http://aur.archlinux.org/" title="Arch User Repository"><img src="http://bbs.archlinux.org/images/aur.png" height="48" width"48" /></a>

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#92 2005-09-19 19:20:33

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Done - added to the image tag

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#93 2005-10-19 09:16:46

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

I think we now need a devblog button, dog!

http://www.archlinux.org/blog/

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#94 2005-10-19 16:30:35

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

The larger square button I presume?  Give me a bit and I'll take care of it...probably some time tomorrow.

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#95 2005-10-21 03:07:55

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Will this work?  The lettering is a bit small, but I wasn't sure about how else to do it...

devblog.png

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#96 2005-10-21 04:09:43

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Some comments:
I would just call it Blog as it's not really restricted to devs. TU and other users contributing stuff can ask for posting permissions. At the same time, it would give more space for the lettering.

Also, I'm unsure about the gear. I understand that it stands for the development aspect of the blog.  A notepad logo would be more intuitive but it might be too similar to the wiki and art logos. I can't think about anything else so maybe the gear is the best logo.

Just my 2 ¢ smile

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#97 2005-10-21 05:56:53

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

The gear is fine, fits nicely for "Arch Linux Development Blog".

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#98 2005-10-21 07:43:28

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Many good points my snowy friend...renaming it to just Blog is a good idea, and will allow me to have the text be clearer and the same size as all the others.  Good point too that it's not just for developers, but about the development of Arch...using the word "Dev" could be taken ambiguously. 

I thought about doing something more symbolically related to the word "blog", but also thought there would be too much repetition with the other icons (if I were to use a notepad or something similar).  I do like the gear however, and it also could help to add meaning to what kind of blog the link will point to. 

Anyway, it will probably be Saturday before I can post the updated version as my copy of Fireworks has been acting up lately...I'll have to wait until I go into work this weekend.  Any other suggestions/thoughts are more than welcome!

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#99 2005-10-21 07:47:29

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

I like the gear too smile

It is worth adding that there is a no huge rush, dude.  We all appreciate your work so far and I'm sure you'll produce something wirthy of your other work smile

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#100 2005-10-23 03:52:37

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Re: Can you make some new forum buttons?

Updated the Development Blog button, and I think it looks much better.  Let me know if you have any other suggestions, or need any changes...

devblog.png

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