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#1 2012-11-03 15:16:10

t4n017
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Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Hi,
I'm trying to install Arch in a NETbook but I can't boot from the usb. I tried all the methods. When it boot I only see a black screen with a blinking cursor and I can only shutdown pressing the button. I tried with the same usb in my NOTEbook and it works.
Sorry for my bad english.

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#2 2012-11-03 15:38:51

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

We'd need a lot more information to be able to help.  What model of netbook?  What do you think "all" the methods are - what have you actually done?

How did you make the usb drive: `dd` of an iso, unetbootin or another similar tool, or did you partition and install an OS and boot loader on the USB?

Is the black screen the only thing that shows up after power on?  Certainly you see the BIOS POST, right?  Does any bootloader menu show, even momentarily before the black screen?


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#3 2012-11-03 16:12:33

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

It's an EXOMATE X355. I tried with `dd` and with unetbootin. I tried partition the usb (sdb1) and also without partition it (sdb).

I only see the BIOS POST and then a black screen (there isn't a bootloader menu). At this moment the only thing I can do is shutdown the netbook.

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#4 2012-11-03 16:18:45

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US … tion_Media

Unetbootin sucks. Use something else.


Edit: And download the ISO from the Download page using a BitTorrent client, not by using a direct link (which are prone to CRC errors). Else you will have to check the MD5/SHA1 checksum (BitTorrent clients check this while downloading).

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#5 2012-11-03 16:22:41

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

DSpider wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US … tion_Media

Unetbootin sucks. Use something else.


Edit: And download the ISO from the Download page using a BitTorrent client, not by using a direct link (which are prone to CRC errors). Else you will have to check the MD5/SHA1 checksum (BitTorrent clients check this while downloading).


I tried also with `dd`. But, I think, that's not the problem, because when I use the same USB in another computer it works fine.
Anyway, I'll try " Without overwriting the USB drive ".
The MD5sum match well.

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#6 2012-11-03 16:32:56

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

If the USB works on another computer, then it works.  Don't mess with that.

Is the BIOS set to boot from USB?  If the USB is not plugged in, does the netbook boot to the OS on the harddrive?


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#7 2012-11-03 16:37:24

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Hola smile

Just for information: such netbook works, I have the same machine wink

PS: The only way to boot from USB is touching F11-key at POST, because BIOS is locked.

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#8 2012-11-03 16:42:26

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Yes, the BIOS is set. Without an USB the GRUB appear.

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#9 2012-11-03 16:45:10

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

djgera wrote:

Hola smile

Just for information: such netbook works, I have the same machine wink

PS: The only way to boot from USB is touching F11-key at POST, because BIOS is locked.

Hola, yo también soy de Argentina.

I'm only having problem with Arch. I don't need to press F11 with other distros (Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, etc).

EDIT: My BIOS isn't locked. Anyway, I tried using the F11-key and I'm having the same problem.

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#10 2012-12-13 19:11:00

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

I recently tried with "Image Writer" and "Flashnul", but none of them has worked in the Exomate X355 (I tried with two of them). And the LiveUSB is working in my Sony Vaio. I really don't understand what's happening. Sorry for revive the post, but I really want Arch in my netbook, it's a great distro. Hopefully someone have the solution.

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#11 2012-12-13 20:28:53

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Set the BIOS boot order to your equivalent of "Removable Dev." first, then "Hard Drive" second, then "CD-ROM" third (even if it doesn't have an optical drive).

Then change the hard disk boot priority to reflect the USB stick's name/brand. Don't forget to exit with saving the settings - F10, if I remember correctly, and don't forget to mark the topic as solved (by editing the first post) so that other people (including yourself sometimes) may find useful.

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#12 2012-12-14 00:16:11

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

DSpider wrote:

Set the BIOS boot order to your equivalent of "Removable Dev." first, then "Hard Drive" second, then "CD-ROM" third (even if it doesn't have an optical drive).

Then change the hard disk boot priority to reflect the USB stick's name/brand. Don't forget to exit with saving the settings - F10, if I remember correctly, and don't forget to mark the topic as solved (by editing the first post) so that other people (including yourself sometimes) may find useful.

The boot order was ok, and it was working fine with other distros. I also changed the hard disk priority. Unfortunately the problem isn't solved yet.

I can also select with which device I want to boot (with the F11 key at startup), it's an option named "start menu". So I'm sure it's booting from the USB, but it doesn't load anything. Even the USB has a led that blinks when it's working (reading/writing), but it don't blink when the problem occur.

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#13 2012-12-14 12:02:40

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Is secure boot enabled in BIOS?

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#14 2012-12-14 13:36:09

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

drobole wrote:

Is secure boot enabled in BIOS?

I don't have these option. I only have "quick boot" and "quiet boot", both enabled. Anyway, I tried disabling both and I'm still having the problem.

I also tried to change the value of the other three options I have ("SATA Controller Mode Option", "SATA AHCI Enable", "DVMT 4.0 Mode") but nothing works. So, I think there is no way to fix it with the BIOS.

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#15 2012-12-14 20:22:34

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Can you disable UEFI, or choose something else at all?

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#16 2012-12-19 04:45:25

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

drobole wrote:

Can you disable UEFI, or choose something else at all?

No, I can't do anything more in the BIOS.

I have a friend with the same netbook, and he installed Arch some months ago. Maybe the new ISO is different, the dual architecture, or something.

I'll try with the Netboot install.

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#17 2012-12-19 11:34:27

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Re: Can't boot from usb in a NETbook

Use a different method then.

Here, try this one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US … O_from_RAM


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