something that you feel linux is missing

Awebb · 2014-12-09 22:24:25

You also seem to be anti fully comprehensible statements, ackt1c :-D

x33a · 2014-12-10 04:40:09

Awebb wrote:

x33a wrote:
ackt1c wrote:
something that you feel linux is missing >> Cloud?
Care to elaborate?
Do you really want to hear more about whatever comes with the "Cloud" buzzword?

Most of the "cloud" runs on linux, so I was wondering how can linux miss cloud

life_enjoyer · 2014-12-10 22:10:19

Linux From Scratch for arm devices.

Trilby · 2014-12-10 22:15:16

Huh? I've never done LFS, but you compile it yourself - so why would it not work on ARM?

life_enjoyer · 2014-12-10 22:23:41

In the book it says it's targetted for x86 and x86_64 and known to work on arm but with modifications. Doesn't mention what the modifications are

chaonaut · 2014-12-10 22:39:04

life_enjoyer wrote:

In the book it says it's targetted for x86 and x86_64 and known to work on arm but with modifications. Doesn't mention what the modifications are

well… look here:

1) http://clfs.org/view/clfs-sysroot/
2) http://clfs.org/view/clfs-embedded/

btw, i can't remember any other modifications than kernel- and bootloader-related stuff (that is architecture-specific anyway by its nature).

p.s. i’m experimenting with building musl-based toolchain for 32-bit arm (ARMv5te box), but still far from finish. too much patching is required (not due to building for ARM, but due to using musl).

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exidux · 2015-02-03 20:39:47

A modern file layout for distributions. Currently everything is just scattered around in folders and sub-folders following some form of order but eventually it aint that pretty or interresting to use.

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drcouzelis · 2015-02-03 21:33:20

exidux wrote:

A modern file layout for distributions. Currently everything is just scattered around in folders and sub-folders following some form of order but eventually it aint that pretty or interresting to use.

You mean the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard? But then it wouldn't be Unix!

Although I never used it, I do miss having GoboLinux around. Such a neat idea.

Awebb · 2015-02-03 21:43:58

exidux wrote:

A modern file layout for distributions. Currently everything is just scattered around in folders and sub-folders following some form of order but eventually it aint that pretty or interresting to use.

Well, if nobody comes forward quickly, you will have to live with your wish in form of android style application packages, statically linked, packed and shipped as btrfs volumes. If you thought mount looks rough today, wait until less segfaults, because it cannot handle all those mounts coming down the pipe.

Trilby · 2015-02-03 21:59:57

GoboLinux looks a lot like the OSX approach ... which always drove me bat **** crazy. It also drove me to linux. I'm feeling much better now.

cris9288 · 2015-02-03 23:45:49

Trilby wrote:

GoboLinux looks a lot like the OSX approach ... which always drove me bat **** crazy. It also drove me to linux. I'm feeling much better now.

I could be wrong, but isn't that also pretty similar to what Windows does? C:\Users, C:\ProgramFiles, C:\Windows, etc.

bstaletic · 2015-02-03 23:52:43

cris9288,

Yes it is.

To extend on your examples, there's C:\ProgramFiles\Adobe C:\ProgramFiles\Mozilla, C:\ProgramFiles\Autodesk

poo · 2015-02-04 04:02:38

Having penguin logo upon kernel boot back then. I know..i know it took space that should be useful to display the kernel message (against idiomatic Arch as well of usefulness and simplicity). Sometimes I do miss that logo.

Trilby · 2015-02-04 04:07:06

Then add it back: just set CONFIG_LOGO in a kernel config (and recompile).

ewaller · 2015-02-04 16:02:22

Trilby wrote:

Then add it back: just set CONFIG_LOGO in a kernel config (and recompile).

Last I checked, KMS interfered with the Logo on Intel. It may or may not work. On a related note, I remember being startled after getting my first dual core processor and promptly installing Gentoo in lieu of the stock OS -- only to see two logos pop up. I had not realized you get one logo for every core

PieterGen · 2015-03-09 10:32:37

exidux wrote:

A modern file layout for distributions. Currently everything is just scattered around in folders and sub-folders following some form of order but eventually it aint that pretty or interresting to use.

I can compare the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard to the system Windows uses - I have to use Windows at work. Windows is much more scattered. Confusingly so, actually.

mychris · 2015-03-09 16:40:33

All your talk about filesystem stuff reminds me of http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how … stems.html

angelic_sedition · 2015-04-10 17:00:48

The lack of any good keyboard remapping utilities.

I think the best solution is to just use tmk, but very few keyboards support it easily. Xmodmap has a couple bugs that can be really annoying and doesn't allow for much, and xkb is unecessarily complicated and still doesn't allow for much. They're both also X specific. There aren't any smart programs that allow for dual-role keys (xcape is useless if you want to do something like use space or letter keys as modifiers; ahm doesn't make things that much better). There isn't any support for chording that isn't program specific (e.g. emacs' keychord and vim's vim-arpeggio). Plover is meh. That's all pretty complicated functionality though where other OSs aren't doing that much better. The most annoying thing about xmodmap is the limited number of layers, fixed modifiers, and weird things like that altgr/ISO_Level3 has ISO_Level3_Lock but other modifiers don't have locks.

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PReP · 2015-04-26 13:02:07

I usually dream of a linux filesystem where we have something like (only a few examples):

binaries in /bin
libraries in /lib
user-folders in /home/*
system-files and configs and such in /sys/config; /sys/boot; /sys/logs and so on.
and ALL user-application-config files and application leftovers in /home/user/.config <--

Not far from there as it is now either, just as with i suppose any filesystem standard idea on any OS; not all applications/devs follows it completely.

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EscapedNull · 2015-04-27 03:46:16

Decent suspend/resume support.

Rukiri · 2015-05-22 03:19:21

blackout23 wrote:

ataraxia wrote:
Leadership.
by Microsoft *ducks away*
Jokes aside I feel that linux is missing a good office suite. OO/LO is nice if you use it for your self and don't demand to much. But let's face it. 90% of all companies world wide probably use MS Office for their work and they require documents to look exactly the same when their partners open them as on their side. You can't just say "Sorry I'm using Open Office I can open your stuff but it looks horrible and the stuff I send you... god knows how it will look like..." Also if you use Excel like a professional you'll quickly see the shortcomings of Calc. If there was native MS Office for Linux I would buy it. Now people will say...but there are open standards! Microsoft should support them! Everyone should use them and it would be problem solved!...Yeah being able to eat all the Pizza you want and don't get fat would also be kind of nice... you know? Just not going to happen.

M$ Office is online so technically you can use Office in Linux through chrome or Firefox, I only use Office because lets face it everyone uses it.
Even hosting companies use it, it simply the standard and now M$ office is online there's no reason to use Libre or Open Office in any business environment. Sure it's fine for your own business but once you collaborate, open or libre office is out the door because 99.9% chance that other business or person is using M$ Office which honestly is still the best office suite available.

But Libre is pretty cool and I do use it for myself, but would never touch it with a 10 feet pole professionally.

mrunion · 2015-05-22 12:56:36

Rukiri wrote:

now M$ office is online there's no reason to use Libre or Open Office in any business environment

Cost. Even though it may be a business environment, cost is important. Heck, Google Docs has been MS compatible for years and was free and still didn't get traction.

ewaller · 2015-05-22 14:38:45

Rukiri wrote:

... it simply the standard and now M$ office is online there's no reason to use Libre or Open Office in any business environment.

That is wrong on so many levels. The on one end of the spectra it is a buggy, unusable steaming pile. At the other end of the wrongness spectra, I gather you are not a pupil of Richard Stallman

nomorewindows · 2015-05-22 15:40:16

ewaller wrote:

Rukiri wrote:
... it simply the standard and now M$ office is online there's no reason to use Libre or Open Office in any business environment.
That is wrong on so many levels. The on one end of the spectra it is a buggy, unusable steaming pile. At the other end of the wrongness spectra, I gather you are not a pupil of Richard Stallman

Requires an internet connection and probably a connection with the cloud just to be able to use the office online. Hey, anyone in the cloud wanna help proof read it?

Lone_Wolf · 2015-05-22 15:54:34

Rukiri wrote:

... it simply the standard and now M$ office is online there's no reason to use Libre or Open Office in any business environment.

1 more person our children , grandchildren and their children etc will blame for not being able to read what their ancestors published.

Although there are now 2 open document standards, the MS one is not even completely usable in their OWN office suite.

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