[SOLVED] initscripts

theking2 · 2012-12-05 22:25:27

Hi!

On latest news I read

End of initscripts support 

2012-11-04


As systemd is now the default init system, Arch Linux is receiving minimal testing on initscripts systems. Due to a lack of resources and interest, we are unlikely to work on fixing initscripts-specific bugs, and may close them as WONTFIX.

in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemctl I read

It is highly recommended to switch to the new initscripts configuration system described in the rc.conf article. Once you have this configuration established, you will have done most of the work needed to make the switch to systemd.

so what is the recommendation?

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loafer · 2012-12-05 22:28:14

Basically you should switch to systemd as all support for the legacy configurations will be dropped soon.

teateawhy · 2012-12-05 22:30:02

The recommendation is to follow the beginners guide and mark this topic as solved. The switch to systemd is only affecting old installations, not new installations with the current iso. New installations use systemd by default.

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tomegun · 2012-12-05 22:34:41

The wiki is slightly misleading: "the new initscripts configuration systm" == "the systemd configuration system" (i.e., both initscripts and systemd use the same configuration files).

theking2 · 2012-12-05 23:11:42

tomegun wrote:

The wiki is slightly misleading: "the new initscripts configuration systm" == "the systemd configuration system" (i.e., both initscripts and systemd use the same configuration files).

Thanks tomegun. I understand now that what is meant by the new initscripts configurariont system is the systemd configuration system. It would indeed be clearer to not mention initscripts in the recommendations as it apparently is not recommended anymore. :-)

theking2 · 2012-12-05 23:13:51

teateawhy wrote:

The recommendation is to follow the beginners guide and mark this topic as solved. The switch to systemd is only affecting old installations, not new installations with the current iso. New installations use systemd by default.

A link to "beginners guide" would be helpful.

The system is about 5 years old. So I probably am a beginner but my system is not.

Is a smooth transition possible or should I forget about it and just do a fresh install?

theking2 · 2012-12-05 23:18:19

teateawhy wrote:

The recommendation is to follow the beginners guide and mark this topic as solved. The switch to systemd is only affecting old installations, not new installations with the current iso. New installations use systemd by default.

Btw I'm close reading the [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sy … _switching] and got as far as the LVM section. As all my NAS data is on a LVM the message I got in [https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=154178] is not very promising.

cfr · 2012-12-06 02:20:32

When you say it is 5 years old, you don't mean that you have not updated an installation of Arch in 5 years, right? You just mean that's when you installed it?

A smooth transition is completely possible - just follow the wiki on systemd.

theking2 · 2012-12-11 18:41:26

cfr wrote:

When you say it is 5 years old, you don't mean that you have not updated an installation of Arch in 5 years, right? You just mean that's when you installed it?
A smooth transition is completely possible - just follow the wiki on systemd.

No, no no. CFR I do a weekly sudo pacman. -Syu so it is rather up to date.

I've converted all the initscripts long time ago so those shouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately the system is DNS cache DHCP server and media, file and backup server. So every reboot is a bit a nuisance.

A list of a which daemons are supported would be helpful.

jk

chris_l · 2012-12-11 19:00:53

theking2 wrote:

A list of a which daemons are supported would be helpful.

You mean this?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Daemons_List

theking2 · 2012-12-11 19:04:52

Ok. I made a small but vital addition to the systemd wiki. In the emergency console I had to add systemctl enable lvm to allow for the lvm devices to be mounted.. It seems that all daemons could be loaded, after some coercion with systemctl enable

Only one is having a problem: minidlna.

So yes, after carefully executing the steps in the systemd wiki (and ignoring the lvm section) A transition to a systemd/initscript boot is possible.

cfr · 2012-12-12 00:05:52

Why "coercion with systemctl enable"? Is that the way it is usually done?!

For LVM, I think a lot depends on how you are using LVM and when you need to mount that stuff. I have hooks in mkinitcpio.conf as I need it early and I didn't need to do anything to systemd to get it to work. If you need it later in the boot process, I think that's when you need the systemd services enabled. (My machine won't even get to systemd without LVM...)

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[SOLVED] initscripts

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