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#1 2013-02-15 07:56:03

tareef
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ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

hi guys smile

(iam sory for my english smile )

iam serach and search ... and read in the wiki .. but dont find perfect solution

my laptop is Dell Inspiron N5010

> lspci :
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 12)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port (rev 12)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 06)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
12:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
13:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02)
ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02)
ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)

after installing arch i have a problem with temperature (70>80>87> then my laptop is going sleep :-/ )
i install the amd driver catalyst (close source),powertop, powerdown,laptop-mode-tools

and it ok .. the temp nearly 50 (with firefox is run), but with little additional work its starting over (50>60>70)

device stats (from powertop) :

              Usage     Device name
             17.5%        CPU use
            100.0%        Display backlight
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
            100.0%        Radio device: btusb
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller
            100.0%        USB device: EHCI Host Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller
            100.0%        USB device: Usb Mouse (SIGMACHIP)
            100.0%        USB device: BCM2046B1 (Broadcom)
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio
            100.0%        Radio device: brcmsmac
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
            100.0%        PCI Device: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
            100.0%        USB device: usb-device-413c-8161
            100.0%        USB device: EHCI Host Controller
            100.0%        USB device: Intel built in USB hub
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3
            100.0%        USB device: Intel built in USB hub
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2
             18.6 pkts/s  Network interface: wlan0 (brcmsmac)
              0.0 pkts/s  Network interface: eth0 (r8169)
              0.0%        USB device: usb-device-413c-8162
              0.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0
              0.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0

overview:

    Usage       Events/s    Category       Description
             56.2 ms/s     223.9        Process        /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
              1.3 ms/s     107.3        Timer          hrtimer_wakeup
             78.2 ms/s      53.2        Process        /usr/bin/gnome-shell
              1.9 ms/s      71.6        Interrupt      [50] fglrx[0]@PCI:1:0:0
              3.6 ms/s      57.4        Process        /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/
              1.1 ms/s      38.5        Interrupt      [7] sched(softirq)
             33.1 ms/s      16.4        Process        /usr/bin/X :0 vt07 -nolisten tcp
              0.7 ms/s      16.4        Process        gnome-mplayer /run/media/tareef-m/6905f43a-da9d-4502-9bc2-2ce901ff7b83/مكتبتي الشخصية/تسجيلات ص
              0.9 ms/s      15.7        Interrupt      [16] ehci_hcd:usb1
            616.4 µs/s      14.9        Timer          tick_sched_timer
            463.3 µs/s       9.0        Interrupt      [6] tasklet(softirq)
            114.9 µs/s       9.0        kWork          ieee80211_iface_work
            323.2 µs/s       6.8        Process        gnome-mplayer /run/media/tareef-m/6905f43a-da9d-4502-9bc2-2ce901ff7b83/مكتبتي الشخصية/تسجيلات ص
             89.4 µs/s       6.5        Process        /usr/sbin/haveged -w 1024 -v 1
            218.7 µs/s       4.5        Process        /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
              2.1 ms/s       3.7        Process        gnome-terminal
             31.8 µs/s       1.4        Process        mono /usr/lib/gnome-do/Do.exe
              2.1 ms/s       0.6        Process        gnome-shell
              8.5 µs/s       1.0        kWork          pci_pme_list_scan
             83.9 µs/s       0.9        kWork          _brcms_timer
              0.9 ms/s       0.5        Process        powertop
             36.2 µs/s       0.8        Process        [rcu_preempt]
             31.2 µs/s       0.8        Interrupt      [4] block(softirq)
              2.6 µs/s       0.7        kWork          console_callback
             29.3 µs/s       0.7        Interrupt      [1] i8042
              6.5 µs/s       0.7        kWork          flush_to_ldisc
              0.0 µs/s       0.5        kWork          disk_events_workfn
              1.5 µs/s       0.4        kWork          mei_timer

this problem did with all distro (Debian,Fedora,Ubuntu)...


THANKS for Help (in Arabic شكرًا لكم)

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#2 2013-02-16 00:01:02

ilkyest
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Re: ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

here....
2. Profile-based frequency switching

# echo profile > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method

The "profile" mode will allow you to select one of the five profiles below. Different profiles, for the most part, end up changing the frequency/voltage of the card.

    "default" uses the default clocks and does not change the power state. This is the default behavior.
    "auto" selects between "mid" and "high" power states based on the whether the system is on battery power or not. The "low" power state are selected when the monitors are in the dpms off state.
    "low" forces the gpu to be in the low power state all the time. Note that "low" can cause display problems on some laptops; this is why auto only uses "low" when displays are off.
    "mid" forces the gpu to be in the "mid" power state all the time. The "low" power state is selected when the monitors are in the dpms off state.
    "high" forces the gpu to be in the "high" power state all the time. The "low" power state is selected when the monitors are in the dpms off state.

So lets say we want the "low" option...for this, run the following command:

# echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

the last command "echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

reduces a lot the temperature of both my hd5670. The screens flashes sometimes, but..... downs very well the temperature. With the proprietary driver I haven't do it.

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#3 2013-02-16 08:05:49

tareef
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Re: ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

thanks my friend.. i read this note in wiki, and when i try it:

~ >sudo echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
bash: /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile: No such file or directory

am searching for "power_profile" in my Root disk, and dont found it!

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#4 2013-02-16 08:10:28

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Re: ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

This file is for open source ATI drivers, not Catalyst. For Catalyst, open amdcccle and fiddle with the sliders in PowerPlay section.
Notebooks are known for having a piss-poor cooling systems, my card can easily reach >100C on youtube videos on both Windows and Linux.

Last edited by kaszak696 (2013-02-16 08:11:17)


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#5 2013-02-16 16:08:30

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Re: ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

Power profile is indeed only for the open source driver. Which Wm/DE are you using? Something like compiz or Kwin with a lot of effects will use your gpu to the point that catalyst will scale the card up to full clock speeds. Some laptop cards can run pretty hot when this happens, especially if the heatsink isn't seated well. You may be better off using the open source driver in that case and force your power profile to low as already mentioned. You could also try to turn off hardware acceleration in firefox and flash.

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#6 2013-02-20 23:35:16

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Re: ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

I have a N5010, try running the hose of a vacuum cleaner over all of the vents in the back of the case, whilst brushing with a soft brush (I use the one supplied with cleaner).

I knocked nearly 10 deg C off my temps.  You have to do this regularily sad

Steve

Last edited by xircon (2013-02-20 23:35:54)

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#7 2013-02-21 11:57:23

neilzium
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Re: ATI With catalyst ... overheat problem

xircon wrote:

try running the hose of a vacuum cleaner over all of the vents in the back of the case

Vacuum cleaners create static which can damage electronic components, definitely not a good idea. You could use a can of compressed air to try this instead. If your laptop is out of warranty and you are comfortable around electronics, you could always open it up and clean out the heatsink or better yet, reseat it with decent thermal paste.

Last edited by neilzium (2013-02-21 11:58:04)

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