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#1 2013-04-20 03:13:21

shawntan
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Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Hi,

I just upgraded to gnome-shell 3.8.1 and gnome-terminal 3.8.1, and I've lost the background tab that used to be there in previous versions.
My previously transparent settings are also gone.

Downgrading back to 3.6.1 I get it back
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Is anyone else have the same problem?

Thanks!

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#2 2013-04-20 05:11:26

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Well its been removed by upstream.

Last edited by hadrons123 (2013-04-20 05:12:47)


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#3 2013-04-20 05:12:43

shawntan
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Yeah just wanted to check if it was just for me or for everyone else as well. Is there any way around this?

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#4 2013-04-20 05:14:03

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Currently I dont think so, unless you want to revert the commits and create your own  package or downgrade 3.6 which is the easier option.

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#5 2013-04-21 00:42:47

shawntan
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Okay. I've downgraded.

Thanks man.

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#6 2013-04-21 00:49:17

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Reduce the size of the image on your first post. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fo … s_and_Code


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#7 2013-04-21 23:57:00

lnxsrt
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Does anyone have any information on why they have removed this? It was very useful to see through terminals occasionally while doing certain things.

Between this, hiding the "display menubar by default" option, and the display sleep max limit of 15 minutes, I am seriously considering switching to another DE. I actually defended gnome 3 and some of their choices. Now they have just gone full retard. Sad, really.

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#8 2013-04-22 00:38:08

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

There is another option, I started using xfce terminal instead since it has the transparency feature.


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#9 2013-04-22 04:13:25

zakkudo
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

lnxsrt wrote:

Does anyone have any information on why they have removed this? It was very useful to see through terminals occasionally while doing certain things.

Between this, hiding the "display menubar by default" option, and the display sleep max limit of 15 minutes, I am seriously considering switching to another DE. I actually defended gnome 3 and some of their choices. Now they have just gone full retard. Sad, really.

This.  I am in the same boat with the same feelings.  Gnome used to have some pretty sane defaults, but they have finally passed that point for me.  I lost scrolling with my trackpad on top of it with this update....

Gnome 3 has finally gone into Windows 8 territory in their efforts for something touch friendly.

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#10 2013-04-22 05:14:16

evaliauka
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

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#11 2013-04-22 05:25:32

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

I don't understand how reporting in arch linux is going to help when its clearly an upstream decision to withdraw the feature.


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#12 2013-04-22 05:36:49

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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

He's right.  It looks like the gnome-terminal had some other features also pruned.  Arch is pretty vanilla, so reporting here won't do much good.

1. With the scroll wheel now broken and the scroll bars working how they are, there is no way to scroll up just a few lines
2. New tabs/windows do not inherit the current directory.

I have a feeling that is just the beginning of the code cuts....  This is one of those places the code cuts make no sense.  Who are they trying to appease????

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#13 2013-04-22 05:40:56

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

The right place to file a bug for having that feature back would be https://bugzilla.gnome.org/.
But I have been shot down previously with some nautilus 3.6  features request.
But your mileage may vary. It doesnt hurt to try!


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#14 2013-04-22 07:00:39

plabo
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

I hope that terminator do not follow gnome-terminal.

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#15 2013-04-22 08:41:15

Thorsten Reinbold
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Does anyone know how to set the default terminal for gnome? The dconf-entry doesn't work anymore.

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#16 2013-04-22 08:43:25

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

All I did was remove gnome-terminal and installed https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extr … -terminal/.


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#17 2013-04-23 14:16:01

jiyinyiyong
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Also, the option "hide menu" disappeared.. What is GNOME thinking?

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#18 2013-04-23 14:33:23

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Its very unfortunate but you should be asking them on their ML or gnome Bugzilla for your voice to be heard.


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#19 2013-04-23 14:45:11

evaliauka
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

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#20 2013-04-23 14:49:07

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

That was the rude answer I have ever seen in a bug report and closing it for unexplained reason shows so much about the attitude of the Dev.


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#21 2013-04-23 21:24:22

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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

I got around this by re-compiling gnome-terminal 3.6.1...

now my terminal is exactly how it was before the update smile - transparency, customization, etc.

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#22 2013-04-24 00:50:08

hadrons123
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

Why recompile when you can just downgrade?


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#23 2013-04-24 02:08:31

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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

hadrons123 wrote:

Why recompile when you can just downgrade?

for the simple fact(s); a). i had not updated ABS - so the package was already 'local'  b). I read a thread recently that suggested there shouldn't be any problem rebuilding an old gtk3 app against new core gnome libraries (ie: satifying my own curiosity).

this is only a short-term solution anyway - next i will likely make a patch for gnome-terminal 3.8(+) sources to carry over all of the functionality, gnome-devs removed.

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#24 2013-04-24 03:43:04

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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

It looks like Gnome Terminal is tracking sort of the way Mac OS Terminal does things-- and it's transparency is part of the profile.   I may ask that they add background transparency to profiles rather than ask that they just revert to the old way of doing things.

I'd like to keep using GNOME3, it works well for me, but at least some uh... transparency... about why they choose to remove features or move things around would be nice.   I've spent the better part of an hour looking for an explanation without finding one.

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#25 2013-04-24 07:47:27

hoschi
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Re: Background settings tab missing in gnome-terminal 3.8.1

The problem of GNOME3 is not GNOME-Shell, it is the constant removal of features. And even more worse, the developers didn't communicate their changes nor react on good critic.

Instead they believe the blogs are unfair or the people just hate new things like the GNOME-Shell.


Major feature removed! The complete work of many developers put into X11, AIGLX, Compositing and so on lead the transparent terminal-emulators. Which make terminals nice but also better more usable. Holy s**t! Every terminal supports transparency nowadays, just no longer gnome-terminal. I'm just freaking out, because the developers of GNOME resist to learn anything. It is not this single item, it happens with every release since "3.0".

With the last release they removed Find-As-You-Type from Nautilus and replaced it with the slow new search. I just wonder, what they remove with 3.10, tabs from Nautilus or Epiphany?

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