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#1 2013-05-14 18:19:22

farseerfc
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[SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

After update to 3.9.2, I was unable to boot. After bios screen I see a black screen with only a white cursor and it hangs forever.

I was able to boot from a usb live image, mount my fs, arch-chroot and downgrade to 3.8.11, then it all worked.

I am using gummiboot with EFI, from SSD drive.

my hwinfo --short

cpu:
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1800 MHz
                       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz, 1200 MHz
keyboard:
  /dev/input/event0    AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
mouse:
  /dev/input/mice      Sony Vaio Jogdial
  /dev/input/mice      SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
graphics card:
                       Intel VGA compatible controller
sound:
                       Intel Audio device
storage:
                       Intel Mobile 82801 SATA RAID Controller
network:
  wlp2s0               Intel WLAN controller
  enp5s0               Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
network interface:
  lo                   Loopback network interface
  enp5s0               Ethernet network interface
  wlp2s0               Ethernet network interface
disk:
  /dev/sda             TOSHIBA THNSNF25
  /dev/sdb             TOSHIBA THNSNF25
partition:
  /dev/sda1            Partition
  /dev/sda2            Partition
  /dev/sda3            Partition
  /dev/sdb1            Partition
usb controller:
                       Intel USB Controller
                       Intel USB Controller
                       Intel USB Controller
bios:
                       BIOS
bridge:
                       Intel Host bridge
                       Intel PCI bridge
                       Intel PCI bridge
                       Intel PCI bridge
                       Intel PCI bridge
                       Intel ISA bridge
hub:
                       Linux 3.8.11-1-ARCH xhci_hcd xHCI Host Controller
                       Linux 3.8.11-1-ARCH xhci_hcd xHCI Host Controller
                       Linux 3.8.11-1-ARCH ehci_hcd EHCI Host Controller
                       Hub
                       Linux 3.8.11-1-ARCH ehci_hcd EHCI Host Controller
                       Hub
memory:
                       Main Memory
unknown:
                       FPU
                       DMA controller
                       PIC
                       Timer
                       Keyboard controller
                       Intel Communication controller
                       Intel SMBus
                       Realtek Unclassified device
  /dev/input/event10   Ricoh USB2.0 Camera

Last edited by farseerfc (2013-05-21 04:27:36)

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#2 2013-05-16 01:42:58

antoineniek
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

Hi, i have the exact same problem. I also tried booting with  refind efistub which hanged as well. The only success I had with  3.9.2 kernel was with refind + grub-efi.

Downgrading to 3.8.8-2 allowed me to boot using gummiboot

What are your bios infos ?

Here is the output of 'bootctl'

System:
   Machine ID: f272c25c1bb24621832d44465801e752
      Boot ID: b68501e38c1f47faa5bba39dc6e1f25f
     Firmware: UEFI 2.31 (INSYDE Corp. 4096.01)
  Secure Boot: disabled
   Setup Mode: setup

Selected Firmware Entry:
        Title: EFI HDD Device
    Partition: /dev/disk/by-partuuid/88e4befa-ec4e-4855-8e7b-f2dd99151f22

Boot Loader:
      Product: gummiboot 30
    Partition: /dev/disk/by-partuuid/88e4befa-ec4e-4855-8e7b-f2dd99151f22
         File: └─/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI

Selected Boot Loader Entry:
        Title: Arch Linux
         File: /boot/loader/entries/arch.conf

Some info about system/bios from 'dmidecode' on my Sony Vaio Serie S

BIOS Information
        Vendor: Insyde Corp.
        Version: R0140C5
System Information
        Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
        Product Name: SVS15117FDB

Hope this helps !

EDIT: I also tried using the 'noefi' kernel boot argument but it didn't help.

Last edited by antoineniek (2013-05-16 01:44:27)

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#3 2013-05-16 03:55:20

WonderWoofy
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

There is a thread about this already.  It has been occurring off and on since 3.7 to many people, myself included.  Though I have not had it happen to me in quite some time.  There is a rEFInd binary mentioned in that thread that is a bit differnt that might work better for you. 

What I do is use gummiboot, but I always keep a couple extra bootloaders/boot managers installed and configured just in case.  I think that since we can be considered somewhat "early adopters" of UEFI in Linux, we are going to run into things like this from time to time.  This is especially true since UEFI in general is still so young, and the firmware impementations tend to have all kinds of bugs.

So since the problem is apparently with the EFISTUB bootloader, it is probably wise to keep a more traditional bootloader on hand.  I like elilo, but that is just because it is dead simple to configure, so it is easy to maintain.

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#4 2013-05-16 03:58:12

kangtian
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

Me too!

I think that i915 driver in kernel-3.9.2 cause black screen.

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#5 2013-05-17 12:45:36

farseerfc
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

Thank you antoineniek
I am also use Sony Vaio, SVZ1311AJ
here is my bootctl:

System:
   Machine ID: d5945540d2dc4d7bb04a0f6289b33208
      Boot ID: af45e33783764c2cabdaee8e91f6ef4e
     Firmware: UEFI 2.31 (INSYDE Corp. 4096.01)
  Secure Boot: disabled
   Setup Mode: setup

Selected Firmware Entry:
        Title: EFI HDD Device
    Partition: /dev/disk/by-partuuid/36253875-a2ec-484f-8aba-5cbc68a6608e

Boot Loader:
      Product: gummiboot 30
    Partition: /dev/disk/by-partuuid/36253875-a2ec-484f-8aba-5cbc68a6608e
         File: └─/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI

Selected Boot Loader Entry:
        Title: Arch Linux
         File: /boot/loader/entries/arch.conf

And my dmidecode

# dmidecode 2.12
# SMBIOS entry point at 0x9aebcb98
SMBIOS 2.7 present.
18 structures occupying 743 bytes.
Table at 0x9A989000.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
	Vendor: Insyde Corp.
	Version: R0091C6
	Release Date: 05/07/2012
	Address: 0xE0000
	Runtime Size: 128 kB
	ROM Size: 3072 kB
	Characteristics:
		PNP is supported
		BIOS is upgradeable
		BIOS shadowing is allowed
		Boot from CD is supported
		Selectable boot is supported
		EDD is supported
		8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
		CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
		ACPI is supported
		USB legacy is supported
		Smart battery is supported
		BIOS boot specification is supported
		Function key-initiated network boot is supported
		Targeted content distribution is supported
		UEFI is supported
	BIOS Revision: 0.91
	Firmware Revision: 0.91

Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
	Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
	Product Name: SVZ1311AJ
	Version: J004TSH4
	Serial Number: 54582290-0013879
	UUID: 0D678980-8C6B-11E2-9426-3C07717887B2
	Wake-up Type: Power Switch
	SKU Number: N/A
	Family: VAIO

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 10 bytes
Base Board Information
	Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
	Product Name: VAIO
	Version: N/A
	Serial Number: N/A
	Asset Tag: N/A
	Features:
		Board is a hosting board

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 17 bytes
Chassis Information
	Manufacturer: Sony Corporation
	Type: Notebook
	Lock: Not Present
	Version: N/A
	Serial Number: N/A
	Asset Tag: N/A
	Boot-up State: Safe
	Power Supply State: Safe
	Thermal State: Safe
	Security Status: None
	OEM Information: 0x00000000

Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 40 bytes
Processor Information
	Socket Designation: N/A
	Type: Central Processor
	Family: Core i7
	Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
	ID: A9 06 03 00 FF FB EB BF
	Signature: Type 0, Family 6, Model 58, Stepping 9
	Flags:
		FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
		VME (Virtual mode extension)
		DE (Debugging extension)
		PSE (Page size extension)
		TSC (Time stamp counter)
		MSR (Model specific registers)
		PAE (Physical address extension)
		MCE (Machine check exception)
		CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
		APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported)
		SEP (Fast system call)
		MTRR (Memory type range registers)
		PGE (Page global enable)
		MCA (Machine check architecture)
		CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
		PAT (Page attribute table)
		PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
		CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported)
		DS (Debug store)
		ACPI (ACPI supported)
		MMX (MMX technology supported)
		FXSR (FXSAVE and FXSTOR instructions supported)
		SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
		SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2)
		SS (Self-snoop)
		HTT (Multi-threading)
		TM (Thermal monitor supported)
		PBE (Pending break enabled)
	Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz
	Voltage: 1.4 V
	External Clock: 100 MHz
	Max Speed: 2100 MHz
	Current Speed: 2100 MHz
	Status: Populated, Enabled
	Upgrade: None
	L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005
	L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006
	L3 Cache Handle: 0x0007
	Serial Number: N/A
	Asset Tag: N/A
	Part Number: N/A
	Core Count: 4
	Core Enabled: 4
	Thread Count: 8
	Characteristics:
		64-bit capable
		Multi-Core
		Hardware Thread
		Execute Protection
		Enhanced Virtualization
		Power/Performance Control

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: L1 Cache
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
	Operational Mode: Write Through
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 256 kB
	Maximum Size: 256 kB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Unknown
	Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Parity
	System Type: Unknown
	Associativity: Unknown

Handle 0x0006, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: L2 Cache
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
	Operational Mode: Write Through
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 1024 kB
	Maximum Size: 1024 kB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Unknown
	Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
	System Type: Unified
	Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
	Socket Designation: L3 Cache
	Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 3
	Operational Mode: Write Back
	Location: Internal
	Installed Size: 6144 kB
	Maximum Size: 6144 kB
	Supported SRAM Types:
		Unknown
	Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
	Speed: Unknown
	Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
	System Type: Unified
	Associativity: 12-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0008, DMI type 11, 5 bytes
OEM Strings
	String 1: 0000073306J
	String 2: FNC-EXTB
	String 3: AYM63CN6oU8U7SR9uU8TnihJnn_1xbtkRSyXt6oU7Y7SRAoU8T
	String 4: Reserved
	String 5: 8.0.4.1441

Handle 0x0009, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
	Location: System Board Or Motherboard
	Use: System Memory
	Error Correction Type: None
	Maximum Capacity: Unknown
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Number Of Devices: 2

Handle 0x000A, DMI type 17, 21 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0009
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 4096 MB
	Form Factor: SODIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: SODIMM1
	Bank Locator: Bank 0
	Type: DDR3
	Type Detail: Unknown

Handle 0x000B, DMI type 17, 21 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0009
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 4096 MB
	Form Factor: SODIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: SODIMM2
	Bank Locator: Bank 1
	Type: DDR3
	Type Detail: Unknown

Handle 0x000C, DMI type 19, 15 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
	Starting Address: 0x00000000000
	Ending Address: 0x001FFFFFFFF
	Range Size: 8 GB
	Physical Array Handle: 0x0009
	Partition Width: 2

Handle 0x000D, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
	Starting Address: 0x00000000000
	Ending Address: 0x000FFFFFFFF
	Range Size: 4 GB
	Physical Device Handle: 0x000A
	Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x000C
	Partition Row Position: Unknown
	Interleave Position: Unknown
	Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown

Handle 0x000E, DMI type 20, 19 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
	Starting Address: 0x00100000000
	Ending Address: 0x001FFFFFFFF
	Range Size: 4 GB
	Physical Device Handle: 0x000B
	Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x000C
	Partition Row Position: Unknown
	Interleave Position: Unknown
	Interleaved Data Depth: Unknown

Handle 0x000F, DMI type 32, 20 bytes
System Boot Information
	Status: No errors detected

Handle 0x0010, DMI type 136, 11 bytes
OEM-specific Type
	Header and Data:
		88 0B 10 00 01 44 49 52 53 09 04
	Strings:
		Sony Corporation

Handle 0x0011, DMI type 127, 4 bytes
End Of Table

Waiting for a solution.

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#6 2013-05-17 15:03:24

WonderWoofy
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

farseerfc wrote:

<snip>
Waiting for a solution.

I take real issue with this statement for two reasons. 

The first and probably most significant is that there is a general expectation as an Arch Linux user that you are competent enough to at least try to debug your own issues.  I am not saying that you should be able to solve 100% of things that come your way, but that you have a willingness to at least dig a little and look.  Posting the output of a couple of commands and simply waiting for someone to just give you the answer just goes against the very principles of the distribution and these threads (especially when the second command output seems just totally random).

Second, I have actually attempted to give you an answer in post #3.  I even linked back to a thread where the symptoms you are describing are very similar, though without moer info than "This kernel won't boot sad" I cannot say that it is the same.  Still it is a lead that I would have expected even a non-skilled to have followed.  I even mentioned what some people have said solves their issue.

So that leads me to have to ask (not that I am necessarily willing to offer any more help here), but have you tried anything besides simply doengrading your kernel?

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#7 2013-05-17 18:55:15

farseerfc
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

@WonderWoofy
You are right. I did not do my best.

I was trying hard to deal with another issue after downgrading. It seems that 3.8.11-1 cannot connect to wifi in my office. I didn't noticed that because I used lan network in my home. It took me days to realized that the wifi issue was also caused from kernel. Without network, it was hard to diagnose anything.

I skimmed through the first page of the thread you mentioned, there people was talking about common mistakes, and a different kernel version. So I did not continue. I was totally wrong about making this decision.

Thank you very much for telling that thread again. I just found srs5694 clearly described the situation of my problem here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 3#p1233673

So I tried again with gummiboot booting to grub-efi. It worked on 3.9.2-1 ! Thank you!

I am now still digging on this issue, finding a way to get ride of grub-efi from booting process.

BTW, I found you talking about systemd user session there, I want to try that after I fixed my booting.

Last edited by farseerfc (2013-05-17 18:57:06)

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#8 2013-05-17 18:59:49

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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

Are you wed to gummiboot?  Is another bootloader [grub] an option?

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#9 2013-05-17 19:57:23

farseerfc
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

@graysky
grub-efi is OK to me.
But if I have to live with grub, I can also use it under BIOS, without vfat partitions and other issues, right? The reason that motivate me to switch to UEFI and gummiboot was its simple configuration style, like what grub legacy provides.
(Also I heard that gummiboot is the only one that support Systemd Bootloader Interface, don't know when grub will provide that.)
BTW I still have grub legacy on my workstation and test server, sound and stable.

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#10 2013-05-17 20:00:02

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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

If you enable legacy support in your bios then yes.  Why would you want to do that though?  Grub is pretty darn easy to configure since the config is autogenerated with a simple, `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`  ...no idea about gummi and that systemd loader support bit.

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#11 2013-05-17 20:42:28

farseerfc
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

@graysky Yes, you are right.
Gummiboot only gives me firmware boot time in systemd-analyze, which is not essential at all.
I just never had time to study about all internal relations between /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* and /boot/grub/grub.cfg , maybe I should spend some time on that.
From my understanding a bootloader should be just a thin jumper between BIOS/UEFI and kernel, and all the complexity of grub is far beyond that, with foreign language support and gfxterm and other things I don't need.
Now that kernel comes with efi stub, I thought I could try a lightweight bootloader, in case that kernel fails, and gummiboot fits all my needs.

Thank you, I should stop wasting time on this and happy live with grub.

Edit:
I mean a light weight boot manager or bootloader.

Last edited by farseerfc (2013-05-17 21:01:58)

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#12 2013-05-17 20:49:06

WonderWoofy
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

If you want simplicity in configuration, you should try elilo.  It is a bootloader in the traditional sense, so you wont't be relying on the EFISTUB, and the configuration is simple like that of grub-legacy (or plain ol' lilo).  The only thing is that elilo by default does not come with any kind of menu interface, and from the documentation, creating one was not incredibly straight forward.  Still it works just fine, and saved me those coupel times the kernel wouldn't play nice.

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#13 2013-05-21 04:23:48

farseerfc
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Re: [SOLVED] Unable to boot after kernel 3.9.2

Upgraded to 3.9.3-1, problem was fixed, mark as solved

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