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#1 2013-05-21 13:12:25

max300f
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Wired network dont work, cant install

Hi i tray to install Arch linux like this man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJb6bZm5QOc, but my wired or wlan network wont work, when i ping -c 3 www.google.com it say unknown host, when i ping -c 3 8.8.8.8 say destination host unreachable. I dont know what to do now.

Can you help me please!?

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#2 2013-05-21 13:16:31

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

Many have already tried to help.  They wrote the beginners guide on the arch wiki, which you should use.  Don't use random youtube videos.

EDIT: this is nothing against the video maker.  He seems to do things well, and make it ... er, "interesting".  But the point remains the same.  A video is linear, and is specific to the video makers hardware.  The wiki gives you links to follow depending on your specific desires or hardware.

Another way of putting it is, if you want this communities help, use this communities guide.  If you want to use that youtube video and you run into problems, ask on that youtube channel.

Last edited by Trilby (2013-05-21 13:20:55)


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#3 2013-05-21 13:16:54

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

I'm sorry, I don't know what you've done to try to enable your network card.

You should not be following third party documentation, such as YouTube videos, because they quickly go out of date. Here is the official installation guide for beginners: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide

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#4 2013-05-21 13:23:45

max300f
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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

Trilby wrote:

Many have already tried to help.  They wrote the beginners guide on the arch wiki, which you should use.  Don't use random youtube videos.

EDIT: this is nothing against the video maker.  He seems to do things well, and make it ... er, "interesting".  But the point remains the same.  A video is linear, and is specific to the video makers hardware.  The wiki gives you links to follow depending on your specific desires or hardware.

Another way of putting it is, if you want this communities help, use this communities guide.  If you want to use that youtube video and you run into problems, ask on that youtube channel.


i try everything from beginners guide to set my network but not work, maybe i doing something wrong!? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Be … rage_drive

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#5 2013-05-21 13:28:31

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

i doing this
# systemctl stop dhcpcd.service

# ip link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: enp2s0f0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:11:25:31:69:20 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlp3s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT qlen 1000
    link/ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff


# iwconfig
enp2s0f0  no wireless extensions.
wlp3s0    IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"NETGEAR97"
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.427 GHz  Access Point: 2C:B0:5D:9C:72:BF
          Bit Rate=65 Mb/s   Tx-Power=16 dBm
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Power Management:on
          Link Quality=61/70  Signal level=-49 dBm
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:430   Missed beacon:0
lo        no wireless extensions.


# ip link set enp2s0f0 up


# ip addr add 192.168.1.2/24 dev enp2s0f0


# ip route add default via 192.168.1.1

# nano /etc/resolv.conf

nameserver 192.168.1.1
search dummy.porta.siemens.net



ONLY enp2s0f0, CHANGE WITH enp4s0 when i put line

but wont work,


wireless network say no wifi-menu package!?


I dont know what to do now?

Last edited by max300f (2013-05-21 13:31:16)

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#6 2013-05-21 13:46:02

max300f
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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

Trilby wrote:

Many have already tried to help.  They wrote the beginners guide on the arch wiki, which you should use.  Don't use random youtube videos.

EDIT: this is nothing against the video maker.  He seems to do things well, and make it ... er, "interesting".  But the point remains the same.  A video is linear, and is specific to the video makers hardware.  The wiki gives you links to follow depending on your specific desires or hardware.

Another way of putting it is, if you want this communities help, use this communities guide.  If you want to use that youtube video and you run into problems, ask on that youtube channel.


a dont start install like man on youtube when i cant setup network, i try everything from beginners guide.

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#7 2013-05-21 13:58:03

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

Whoa!

Please take your time to post what you are actually doing and what the output is.  You've now given us a dozen contradictory claims.  You say you followed the youtube video, but then you didn't follow the video you followed the beginners guide (and link to an irrelevant portion of it).  You show the steps of the static IP address which is not the typical method, but you only gave this information after the fact.  Then, after that you say the commands you listed are not actually the ones you used.  Then you claim the error is with wifi-menu which is for wireless, not wired networking.

Please start from the beginning: where in the install process are you?  Are you in the initial live environment, or have you chrooted into your system?  When you post commands and their output post the commands you actually used and the output you received.

We can't see what you see, we only know what you've told us, and as of now I'm *completely* confused about where you are, what you are trying to do, and what you have attempted.

Last edited by Trilby (2013-05-21 13:58:52)


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#8 2013-05-21 13:58:51

max300f
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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

i download arch iso and put on usb, than i start install but on beginning i have problem with network, when guy on youtube ping www.google.com its working but me wont work, than i go to beginners guide and try to set up step by step, still nothing.

i upload picture now

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#9 2013-05-21 13:59:41

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

EDIT: your last revision helped, but I'll leave this link as it is still good to read.
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Last edited by Trilby (2013-05-21 14:22:23)


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#10 2013-05-21 14:13:22

max300f
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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

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#11 2013-05-21 14:27:35

Trilby
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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

You need to follow the guide carefully.  iwconfig is for wireless.  Are you trying to configure wireless, or a wired connection?

Also, please resize your images or move them offsite, they are too big for the forums.


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#12 2013-05-21 14:34:51

max300f
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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

Trilby wrote:

You need to follow the guide carefully.  iwconfig is for wireless.  Are you trying to configure wireless, or a wired connection?

Also, please resize your images or move them offsite, they are too big for the forums.

First I tried to configure wired connection but unsuccesefuly, then I tried set up wireless connection, but console tell me that I don't have wifi-menu.

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#13 2013-05-21 14:53:43

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

You know, FWIW, I did notice when fixing something the other day that the ARCH_201305 actually does not seem to have netctl installed.  It has all the dependincies for nectl, just not netctl itself. 

In the mass output of confusion above, it would seem that you have a wireless network set up..... though that post is a bit nuts... I think if you try to set up another connection on top of the existing one, it is going to mess things up.

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#14 2013-05-21 14:57:47

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Re: Wired network dont work, cant install

max300f wrote:

First I tried to configure wired connection but unsuccesefuly

But you have not shown the commands you used, nor the results.  So how can we help?

max300f wrote:

then I tried set up wireless connection, but console tell me that I don't have wifi-menu.

Again, show the actual error message, and if you want to pursue wireless, I'd recommend not using wifi-menu anyways, just follow the manual methods in the wireless wiki page.  But `pacman -Qs netctl` should tell you if netctl is installed; wifi-menu (now) belongs to netctl.

@WW, that is not his wireless connection.  That is a copy+paste from the beginners guide example output.  That's why I was frustrated, max is posting OTHER people's output, not his own.

Last edited by Trilby (2013-05-21 14:59:55)


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