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#1 2005-11-10 02:19:59

jeebusroxors
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Must Have Packages

So I was at work today and I got to thinkin, what are the MUST HAVE essential packages. Im not talking about stuff like KDE or initscripts and stuff like that (ha). I mean the really cool stuff, utilities, visual effects stuff etc etc.

So lets hear em.


There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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#2 2005-11-10 03:52:32

soloport
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Re: Must Have Packages

nsupdate
nmap
traceroute
whois
rsync
ssh
ps
tar
grep
sed
awk
bash
...

Man... I could go on and on.  Arch is all I need.  8)

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#3 2005-11-10 04:53:35

Dusty
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#4 2005-11-10 05:05:25

Nattydraddy
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Re: Must Have Packages

So you mean stuff newbies don´t think of, but can chance their linux experience?

In this case i would say Magnum. Emacs was always to bloated for me. Magnum is written in Python and lean. The core as small as possible and the module interface as flexible as possible.

adesklets is also great. It´s based on imlib2 (the E17 libary) thats makes adesklets better than other deskletsoftware. You already find there desklets like Torsmo (something like GKrellM) and Paclet (a desklet-frontend to pacman).
paclet_screen.jpg

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#5 2005-11-10 07:23:59

Cam
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Re: Must Have Packages

Hey cool, people are showing off my screenshot! big_smile

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#6 2005-11-10 08:29:41

Shofs
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Re: Must Have Packages

hmmm. . .

[g]vim
ssh
nmap
amarok - for playing music
mplayer and/or xine
gtk-gnutella - for music downloads
gqview
k3b
your choice of terminal

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#7 2005-11-10 09:53:06

Nattydraddy
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Re: Must Have Packages

rmbalfa wrote:

hmmm. . .
gtk-gnutella - for music downloads

At gnutella you just find commercial stuff. There are so many good netlabels now, nobody need anymore the stuff from the radio and MTV.

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#8 2005-11-10 10:15:10

pressh
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Re: Must Have Packages

strange nobody sees a web-browser as a must have app roll
I would like to add:

mpd
emelfm
rox
nedit

[edit] fixed typo

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#9 2005-11-10 10:20:31

smoon
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Re: Must Have Packages

Here's what I can't live without:
vim
urxvt
gmrun
mplayer
feh
zsh (even though it gives me some trouble atm)
openbox or fvwm

Some other cool apps which are not essential for me:
tvtime
revelation
tv-browser
muttng

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#10 2005-11-10 11:14:27

rasat
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Re: Must Have Packages

jeebusroxors wrote:

So I was at work today and I got to thinkin, what are the MUST HAVE essential packages.

Beside the base packages of Arch, there is no really such thing as "must have". Depends on the usage. In this way you will have only what's needed. To add more packages, easy to install later.

In some other distros, devs have already planned for the user what are the "must have" packages. After awhile you find out many of the apps were never used. It can be confusing when having 4 or 5 types of same programme, when one or two is enough of your own choice.


Markku

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#11 2005-11-10 11:42:12

sweiss
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Re: Must Have Packages

I don't quite understand the question, but I think yakuake is one heck of a utility, if that's what you meant.

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#12 2005-11-10 16:31:44

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Re: Must Have Packages

"Must haves" differ alot from person-to-person, but hey, this looks like a fun thread.  I'm not going to be snarky like Dusty (!!) and post the kernel, no matter how hard I laughed at that.

For me, I can't like without:
· vim-unstable (vim 7.0aaa in [unstable])
· screen
· mpd
· urxvt
· centericq
· mutt

Of course, there's always WMs, but that's a whole 'nother topic, so I'll leave that out (ratpoison 4 teh winz!)

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#13 2005-11-10 17:38:28

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Re: Must Have Packages

phrakture wrote:

I'm not going to be snarky like Dusty (!!)

Apologies. I was in a piss-anybody-off mood yesterday. I feel moderated now. DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP! Our mods are too heavy handed... mwahahaha!!

Seriously, the only thing I really absolutely definately need is pacman and makepkg. Everything else sort of comes from that.

End user applications.... yeah, I really need a text editor (jedit now, someday magnum).

Dusty

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#14 2005-11-10 17:41:02

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Re: Must Have Packages

I need these packages:


e17
gedit
openoffice
bmp
firefox
thunderbird
qemu/kqemu
gaim

, in fact besideas a stripped d own version of base, this s all i have:D


http://www.linuxportalen.com  -> Linux Help portal for Linux and ArchLinux (in swedish)

Dell Inspiron 8500
Kernel 2.6.14-archck1  (selfcompiled)
Enlightenment 17

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#15 2005-11-10 19:01:43

ozar
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Re: Must Have Packages

pacman
rox
vim
firefox
thunderbird
scite
urxvt


oz

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#16 2005-11-10 19:47:56

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Re: Must Have Packages

My must haves:
- zsh
- Eterm
- screen
- ssh
- lighttpd/php
- bluefish
- firefox w/adblock
- gaim
- leafpad
- xine
- mpd


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#17 2005-11-10 19:51:39

phrakture
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Re: Must Have Packages

ozar wrote:

pacman
rox

yes, yes it does

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#18 2005-11-10 19:55:43

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lol


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#19 2005-11-10 20:27:45

Nattydraddy
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Re: Must Have Packages

shadowhand wrote:

My must haves:
- zsh
- Eterm

Why zsh and eterm? Ok, they can do more than bash and aterm, but aren´t they still full of bugs?

I don´t worry if a GUI-app crashes but if I´m working on my filesystem and oother critical stuff i don´t  want bad things to happen. So i use low-level stuff like shellscripts. But what to do if the shall make wired things? Would be a nightmare.

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#20 2005-11-10 21:33:58

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Re: Must Have Packages

If you don't want KDE or its dependencies, which I don't, graveman is a perfect replacement for K3b (CD/DVD writer).  You have to spend a little time learning how it works, but it does everything K3B does.   For an easily configurable firewall, might as well bite the bullet and get firestarter, along with the gnome dependencies it requires.  Shields up security website reports your machine 100% stealthed when properly configured.  Window manager fluxbox if you like lightness (fast startup/small footprint) and simplicity (configurability is also dependent on how complicated you want it, the menu is very easy to edit and configure).  And if you just want a relatively (very light), and simple word processor, use abiword.  I also vote for eterm for a configurable terminal window, and use gdm for a login manager to automatically log in your username.  gftp for an FTP client.          Firefox internet browser and vim editor are just necessary, in my humble opinion.  smile~

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#21 2005-11-10 21:44:03

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Re: Must Have Packages

As a TU and maintainer of numerous excellent pkgs...

/me dispenses with commercial sales pitch

I use the following on a regular basis:
· lftp - this has to be top, it is indispensible
· rox
· firefox
· thunderbird
· urxvt
· feh (not a popular choice but great smile)
· conky
· gkrellm

However, without ssh, cvs/svn, vim and bash I would never get anything done smile [/list]

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#22 2005-11-10 21:50:30

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Re: Must Have Packages

Here are mine:
  - The GIMP
  - Inkscape
  - Blender
  - aterm
  - gaim
  - thunderbird
  - Firefox w/ fasterfox & tab mix
  - bmp

And of course, openssh, vim and stuff like that.

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#23 2005-11-10 22:25:41

Bysshe
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Re: Must Have Packages

postlogic wrote:

  - The GIMP

awesome program

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#24 2005-11-10 22:34:29

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Re: Must Have Packages

gcc and xterm.

Not very exciting I know...but thats pretty much all I care about or use on my desktop.

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#25 2005-11-10 23:52:06

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Re: Must Have Packages

I'm pulling on my flame suit for this one: ndiswrapper :shock:

Seriously, I think a lot of people run Linux with a wireless connection these days.  I love pacman and the first thing I needed to do was to enable my wireless so that I could get everything up and running the way I wanted.

I keep the source for ndiswrapper on a CD ROM so that I can build it on clean installs.  Apologies in advance, but I had the cards for awhile.  Suppose I could buy new ones, but there ya go.

Never thought much about it until I ran a couple of live CDs that *did* include the tool, thought it was cool and probably a good idea to just install for those who need it.

<stop, drop, and roll>


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