Still can't install Arch from an external USB cdrom drive

jerem · 2005-11-13 18:02:51

When I try to install Arch with the 0.7.1 install cd, it boots fine, but I can't get the loaddisk command to work.

I tried all the devices in /dev ( for i in /dev/* ; do loaddisk $i ; done ) but that did not do the trick.

I have an external USB dvd device. The usual module is sr_mod along with other standard USB support modules(ehci and so on...).

As the loaddisk command is supposed to load these modules, how can I install the system ???

I precise that my cdrom is perfectly standard and I've already successfully installed arch 0.7 with it...

Krzysiek_W · 2005-12-14 03:52:26

I have the same problem when tring to install Arch on HDD connected via USB

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-12-14 12:22:42

I can't use loaddisk, too. But in my case, no nodes where created that could be used to pass to loaddisk.

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=128429#128429

apeiro · 2005-12-14 17:50:21

Yep, this bug has already been fixed for 0.7.1 final.

To quickly create an fd0 node where you can load disk add-ons:

# mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0

ramjet · 2006-01-06 09:48:36

Im still having problems with installing from usb cdrom using 7.1 final, while i can boot ok, when i try to select packages and select cdrom, it says no media found,

the installation wiki says"
If your CD-ROM drive is not displayed in the list, make sure you loaded any modules that may be needed, like SCSI or USB storage support.

so i tried modprobeing usb-storage... which gives an error...

anyway.. could someone enlighten me.. what has to be done to install from usb cdrom.. i seem to recall that i managed it with 7.0

Also: Cant seem to get load my NIC for a ftp install either... i seem to remember that it is modprobe e1000 has worked in other distro's...
am i missing somehting obvious?

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-01-06 10:09:55

which node is expected to be created for that usb cdrom device? Is this node available in /dev/? Consider to create one manually after booting into 0.7.1, using mknod. Have you followed apeiro's advice?

ramjet · 2006-01-06 10:30:40

kay ... didnt need to use mknod.. was already there.. guess thats a fix since 7.1pre ,
used the syntax line provided by jerem to find that i could loadisk /dev/ram0 which extracted some modules n stuff to /tmp/addons.

what now though?...I have tried to mount all of the /dev/sda to /dev/sde.. which the cdrom should be under... what module do i need to load to enable usb

ramjet · 2006-01-06 10:40:01

basicly my problem is the same as this

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=17118

isnt there any way other than a bootstrap as is suggested by this thread?

jerem · 2006-01-06 18:01:09

Seems a lot of distros can't install from external USB cdroms,

... except gentoo. Especially the 2005-r1 fixes this.

Isn't a distro supposed to be tested on several hardware configurations ???

So how is it it doesn't boot on usb devices ? Isn't that widely spread enough ???

Moo-Crumpus · 2006-01-06 18:36:38

jerem wrote:

Seems a lot of distros can't install from external USB cdroms,
... except gentoo. Especially the 2005-r1 fixes this.
Isn't a distro supposed to be tested on several hardware configurations ???
So how is it it doesn't boot on usb devices ? Isn't that widely spread enough ???

and where where you when we all where asked to test 0.7.1 pre???

jerem · 2006-01-06 18:48:31

I was here. I updated the post to say that the problem remains with 0.7.1.

2 hours ago, the title was "unable to install arch with external usb dvd"
and the first post mentioned 0.7.1pre1.

apeiro · 2006-01-06 19:39:30

Unfortunately, I included USB support as modules, which introduces the classic chicken-and-egg problem for users with a USB CD-ROM.

The easiest workaround is to get the USB modules from the USB add-on diskette image. But of course, you need a floppy drive for this.

If you don't have a floppy drive, you could extract the USB add-on image using another OS, or another computer (then copy it over the network via FTP or NFS).

I've made a note to build-in USB drivers for 0.8 so this problem will go away.

apeiro · 2006-01-06 19:40:24

USB add-on disk image is here:
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/images/addons/k … rewire.img

jerem · 2006-01-07 11:46:41

Thanks a lot !

Unfortunately I don't have any floppy disk, but as I have a second computer (working fine with Arch for more than a year),

I think I can manage to solve the problem with the network solution.

Once more, thanks !

ramjet · 2006-01-09 10:17:35

sorry, Im sure the answer from here is obvious but i seem to have missed it.
I extracted the content of keymaps_usb_firewire.img to /tmp/addons and im left with a bunch of .bz2 files how do i use these?... where do i extract them to and/or how do i load them?

ramjet · 2006-01-09 12:09:06

ok, i have done the following
#bunzip2 usb-storage.tar.bz2
#tar -xf usb-storage.tar
leaving me with a 2.6.15 directory in /tmp/addons
where should this directory be?
also , when i try to #modprobe usb-storage
it looks for /lib/modules/2.6.15/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.ko but cannot find it
it then tries /lib/modules/2.6.15/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko and does find it but cannot load it.

I realy dont want to wait for arch 8.0, what am i doing wrong?

jerem · 2006-01-09 21:33:24

The command to extract them is tar xvjf archive.tar.bz2
The archive is extracted to the current working directory.

Snowman · 2006-01-09 22:54:37

To insert the module try:
insmod /full/pathto/module.ko

ramjet · 2006-01-10 02:10:50

thanks guys, finaly a working arch install.
.someone should write a wiki on all this, I would if i understood what was actualy happening instead of blindly typing commands.

now to bludgeon xorg 7.0 into working... :x

fyllemisstaget · 2006-05-09 05:37:28

hm I don't know if I am stupid..but how do I extract that .img file?
I have a second computer with windows and linux on it...

Snowman · 2006-05-09 07:26:28

You need to write the images on a floppy. In windows, I use rawwritewin: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite.htm

fyllemisstaget · 2006-05-09 11:33:02

thanx..I will try it out later today

fyllemisstaget · 2006-05-11 18:58:15

man..I just can't get it to work...I can't insmod usb-storage.ko

can someone please take me trough this step by step..
here is what I got:

I have extracted the contents of the usb_firewire.img to a partition (/dev/hda6) ... and then a copy it over to /tmp/addons...and cd to /tmp/addons

then I try to: insmod /tmp/addons/2.6.15/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko ...but it cannot insert it..

what am I doing wrong?

jerem · 2006-05-27 14:10:51

Personnally, I gived up installing Arch with post-0.7 cds.

tom5760 · 2006-06-21 15:04:08

You could try this method -> Installing_Arch_from_a_LiveCD

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