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#1 2013-08-01 13:19:20

gen2arch
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FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

Just to add my info to the ongoing problems:

arch linux is installed on an asus ux21a laptop with intel hd4000 graphics.

after ugrading to 3.10.3 today my screen was blanked out upon booting.

only solution was to boot from external media, chroot und downgrade kernel to 3.9.9.

this was btw the first time on arch linux that a kernel upgrade failed completely!


thanks

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#2 2013-08-01 14:17:16

felipe
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

works fine in my pc... XD

Do you have tried to CTRL + ALT+ F1?  Change the default login manager to another and login with another desktop enviroment....

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#3 2013-08-01 20:02:02

Manifest0
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I had to downgrade the kernel to solve my issue. In my case i didn't even boot! It just dies! :-P

A 15 second (5.5 Mbytes) video that shows the problem i have with the latest kernel upgrade:
video @ Cloudpt.pt


Best regards

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#4 2013-08-02 07:49:07

TheSaint
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

It is related with certain video cards, like nvidia.
Several post are telling that, this is another duplicate.


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#5 2013-08-02 13:56:53

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I have seen threads about something similar where the backlight of the screen was switching off after booting


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#6 2013-08-02 19:38:40

iipe
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I have the same problem on a 5-year-old desktop PC. Kernel 3.10.3 causes the boot process to hang. It is very difficult to see what causes it as the screen just goes blank quite soon after the boot manager (syslinux) starts to load the initial ramdisk.

It is not related to the screen brightness. The boot process just hangs and no entries are produced to the logs.

Now I've been waiting for kernel updates to try if the problem would magically disappear as most problems with broken packages on Arch have done.

Problems with Intel and Nvidia video cards have been suggested. I have an Ati card so I am guessing that the problem can't be card-specific.

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#7 2013-08-06 09:07:40

gen2arch
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

sorry for the delay, wasn't in the office for some days.

Just for the record: after booting the 3.10.3 kernel no further interaction (unless hard reset) was possible, especially no switch to consoles. Also I don't think it's a back light problem, as the machine seems to freeze; neither is it nvidia related, as the only graphics in my machine is 3rd gen intel graphics (hd4000).

thanks

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#8 2013-08-06 09:57:25

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

3.10.5-1 from [testing] ok for you?


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#9 2013-08-06 18:57:52

Manifest0
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

graysky wrote:

3.10.5-1 from [testing] ok for you?

Hello! It did solve my problem! :-P

3.10.5-1 is already in the core repository

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#10 2013-08-06 19:36:57

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

Manifest0 wrote:

Hello! It did solve my problem! :-P

Cool, remember to mark your thread as solved.


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#11 2013-08-12 07:37:37

gen2arch
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

graysky wrote:
Manifest0 wrote:

Hello! It did solve my problem! :-P

Cool, remember to mark your thread as solved.

Unfortunately, nothing changed for me with 3.10.5.1: still the same problem, screen blanks out, and then nothing!
The thing is not solved and I'll have to go through the procedure to revert the kernel to pre 3.10 again :-(

thanks

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#12 2013-08-12 18:15:26

iipe
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

3.10.5 solved the problem for me too smile

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#13 2013-08-15 06:10:08

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

3.10.5 didn't solve the problem to my Zenbook ux32vd with Intel 4000
Please, share your kernel parameters in your bootloader which you pass to kernel.

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#14 2013-08-15 13:38:00

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

3.10.6 is causing my pc to freeze/lockup . . . seems to have trouble waking from sleep, but it boots OK.

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#15 2013-08-16 15:06:43

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

Hi,

What could be the problems for Blank after booting? Is it the video driver and anything else? because I could still see GRUB for example to select which kernel to be loaded.

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#16 2013-08-16 19:19:00

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

highway wrote:

3.10.6 is causing my pc to freeze/lockup . . . seems to have trouble waking from sleep, but it boots OK.

I have the same problem. I also tried booting in fallback mode and the problem still existed. I downgraded linux and linux-headers to 3.10.5 and the problems are gone.

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#17 2013-08-16 19:30:06

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

What about 3.10.7-1 and the related files if needed in [testing]?


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#18 2013-08-19 22:18:27

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

This is not fixed in 3.10.7 for Acer S7 sandy (intel 4000).

Most likely, your system is not locking up or freezing but failing to find a functional graphics card / display.  You should be able to log in and reboot the system through command line.  To get the system running in console mode, edit the kernel parameters and add in nomodeset.  Xorg will not work with nomodeset but will allow for downgrading the kernel.

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#19 2013-08-20 17:21:27

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

The only solution of this problem was offered in this tread. And this patch really works
Therefore I started

yaourt -S linux-mainline

substutited drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_dp.c wich is the /tmp with patched version, waited until compilation is finished, add to the loader new kernel with parameters and ta-da - everything works. Now I have patched 3.11.0-1-mainline kernel with which screen perfectly works with CSM disabled in BIOS on my Asus Zenbook ux32vd with Intel HD4000 Graphic Card

There is no indication that patch is accepted in 3.11.0-1 kernel.

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#20 2013-08-20 20:17:08

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

FWIW and FYI, in my version of this sudden problem, simply loading the KMS module early solved it (as detailed in the Arch Wiki entry for KMS.  I can't say for sure that I'm having the exact same issue as others are having with 3.10, however.

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#21 2013-08-21 05:06:27

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

I kept 3.9.4.1 to boot with nvidia and nvidia-dkms
It boots fine if I enable BIOS launch CMS, but it fails if UEFI is implied. No matter if I set nvidia module in mkinitcpio.conf
It's same with 3.10.7 kernel.

[    21.532] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): EVO Push buffer channel allocation failed
[    21.535] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to allocate EVO core DMA push buffer
[    21.537] (EE) 
Fatal server error:
[    21.537] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

AND

nvidia-settings -v

nvidia-settings:  version 325.15  (buildmeister@swio-display-x64-rhel04-03)  Wed Jul 31 19:04:13 PDT 2013
  The NVIDIA X Server Settings tool.

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#22 2013-08-25 21:01:51

gen2arch
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

Thanks to everyone who posted their advice and how it went! especially to ZeroLinux for his links and proposed solution.

I emerged arch kernel 3.9.10 today and this is the result:

the problem still remains, black screen after boot;

yet if, within UEFI, I activate the CSM compatibility module (legacy booting), then it works!

This is obviously no solution, but it is a workaround.

I recommend reading ZeroLinux's links, as this sheds some light on the problem, which isn't arch specific, but a kernel regression: also, the commit that introduced it seems to have been identified.

BTW:

what would be the standard way on arch to compile your own kernel?

Thanks.

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#23 2013-08-25 23:49:49

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

Hi Guys,

Please check my thread regarding this problem, i used a small hack to fix this issue:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 1#p1316891

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#24 2013-09-05 11:26:28

gen2arch
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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

The problem was solved for me by having done the following:

Read ZeroLinux' posting above; I guess this is really the way to go: compile a mainline kernel with a patch applied.

This is a relatively straightforward process and I would recommend it to everyone who has this problem.

1) download the linux kernel sources (3.11) from kernel.org

2) unpack with tar -xJvf linux-3.11.xz

3) apply this short patch:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment. … format=raw

by typing  "patch -p1 < above.patch" in the toplevel directory of the unpacked sources.

4) use your existing kernel config: zcat /proc/config.gz > .config

5) make oldconfig; make ; make modules_install

5b) wrap your initramfs according to:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ke … l_RAM_disk

6) copy new kernel and ramdisk to your boot directory and change bootloader config

7) boot with new kernel.

As ZeroLinux said: this does in fact work! no more need to launch the CSM compatibility module (legacy "bios" booting). Pure Efi boot works.

Here's further good info on compiling your own kernel in arch:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ke … raditional
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 5#p1237775

Thanks again to ZeroLinux, alexey and ewaller and to everyone who contributed!

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#25 2013-11-02 05:08:43

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Re: FULLY SOLVED 3.10.3: arch kernel of death -- black screen after boot

yndoendo wrote:

This is not fixed in 3.10.7 for Acer S7 sandy (intel 4000).

Most likely, your system is not locking up or freezing but failing to find a functional graphics card / display.  You should be able to log in and reboot the system through command line.  To get the system running in console mode, edit the kernel parameters and add in nomodeset.  Xorg will not work with nomodeset but will allow for downgrading the kernel.


In my case it even won,t boot with nomodeset. I added it without quiet, i see that it wants to start udev hooks, than i see Arch Welcome sign and blinking cursor on the left with black screen. I can't boot to restore kernel. I have Acer Aspire AOD 270 with Intel GMA 3600 hraphic card ant Atom 2 core processor with ht.

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