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Gullible Jones

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Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

This one pretty much speaks for itself:

There is only one open console in that picture, the one on top. All the others are images created by dragging the console over a Firefox window; as you can see, the trail covers only the rendered page and Firefox's own widgets - but not anything outside the Firefox window.

This can be reproduced with *any* application; the larger the window being dragged around, the easier it is to create a trail over the Firefox window. Trails will also be produced on blank Firefox pages, although they won't be nearly as bad as on rendered pages.

Both Firefox 1.0.7 and 1.0.5 are affected.

This is not a bad bug - there don't seem to be any effects on performance, etc. - but man, it's an ugly one. :shock:

Dusty

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

I think its pretty....

doesn't happen to me with 1.5.0.

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Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Are you using Metacity?

Try dragging a window over the Firefox window and around in a circle, fast. That's guaranteed to show this bug.

(Then again, I'm not sure this happens if you're using xcompmgr. If you are, try turning that off first.)

Neuro

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

I have the same problem using KDE So I guess it's Firefox's bug.

tomk

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

I'm not seeing it here - XFCE and Firefox 1.5.

Cam

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Not seeing it here either - Fluxbox & Firefox 1.5

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Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Maybe it's a function of how ungainly one's window manager is? :?

(That'd be strange, though, because KWin is pretty fast.)

iBertus

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

No problem here with fluxbox and firefox 1.5.

EmbraceThePenguin

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

I have that problem with KDE and Fluxbox as well. It didn't happen with the previous version of Firefox. I saw this before and I belive it was said to be a problem with GTK, but cant recall the exact issue.

I also have "Smoothness" and general laggy rendering issues while moving up and down on websites with heavy Flash or java. This was also not present in the previous version of Firefox.

Joe

Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Hmm. Switching to gtk-engines-cvs makes the issue markedly less severe, but it's still quite obviously there.

Edit: Ugh... happens with Galeon too. Something wrong with Gecko, I think...

EmbraceThePenguin

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Personally, I would prefer to just go 100% Konqueror, however, the mplayer plugins and other video plugins don't seem to work with Konqueror; even though they show up in the plugins list, they still ask to download the proper plugin.

Flash and java works great though

Joe

Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

I don't have the choice of Konqueror, since I use Gnome. Bah.

(Oy! Somebody make a Webcore-based browser! I'm absolutely bloody sick of the buggy crap from Firefox!)

EmbraceThePenguin

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Yeah, I used to love firefox. And I still do; its a great thing to have for cross platform browser. It just seems to have lost some performance in the later releases.

However, I love the integration that Konqueror has with the rest of the environment and would really like to just use that.

I heard that Natulis (SP?) and Epiphany (SP?) were great browsers and integtrated well with Gnome. I have not personally used Gnome, but hear its really neat.

Joe

iBertus

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

You could always turn off opaque window moving in your window manager until the bug is fixed...

Snarkout

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Personally, I would prefer to just go 100% Konqueror, however, the mplayer plugins and other video plugins don't seem to work with Konqueror; even though they show up in the plugins list, they still ask to download the proper plugin.

Flash and java works great though

Joe

Kmplayer works quite well IME - better than any of the firefox plugins for me, honestly.  It doesn't seem to want to play audio in the embedded player though, at least on my arch box, but then neither does the mplayer plugin for firefox.  Inline video is a go though.

On topic:  I've seen this more severely with nvidia cards than others - it doesn't matter if it's the nv or nvidia driver, the same issue appears.  I also see it, though not as badly, with my old ati card using either the ati or radeon driver.  I have, however, seen it in every WM I use.  It really doesn't bother me much though.

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EmbraceThePenguin

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Personally, I would prefer to just go 100% Konqueror, however, the mplayer plugins and other video plugins don't seem to work with Konqueror; even though they show up in the plugins list, they still ask to download the proper plugin.

Flash and java works great though

Joe

Kmplayer works quite well IME - better than any of the firefox plugins for me, honestly.  It doesn't seem to want to play audio in the embedded player though, at least on my arch box, but then neither does the mplayer plugin for firefox.  Inline video is a go though.

On topic:  I've seen this more severely with nvidia cards than others - it doesn't matter if it's the nv or nvidia driver, the same issue appears.  I also see it, though not as badly, with my old ati card using either the ati or radeon driver.  I have, however, seen it in every WM I use.  It really doesn't bother me much though.

Hmm.. The kmplayer plugins just crash Konqueror. I would have thought that as long as KDE has been around its applications would be more stable...

Too bad...

Thanks for the tip though. The stand alone app (Kmplayer) looks pretty cool.

Joe

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Just for reference, I get the same thing with FF 1.0.7 in E16.  Not a big deal though, I don't drag many windows over top of firefox all that often.

Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Re browser plugin problems: the only plugins that work right now are the ones for GXine and KMPlayer. It seems that the developers for the other plugins are not bothering to test their software.

shadowhand

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Re browser plugin problems: the only plugins that work right now are the ones for GXine and KMPlayer. It seems that the developers for the other plugins are not bothering to test their software.

My mplayer plugin works. :shock:

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Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

Ahh, it does? Add mplayer-plugin to the list on some machines, then. For others, it seems to have the same problem as Totem.

JGC

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

No problem here... someone using composite extension? If so: you're asking for this...

stavrosg

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

I use composite extension, and don't have this bug
[xfwm4-svn , firefox 1.5 from testing, nvidia binary drivers]

In fact, I dont remember having it, ever.

jerrym

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

getting back to the original post, wouldnt this be some type of video problem? can you reproduce this with any other app besides firefox? have you tried it in different screen resolutions and color depth?

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Gullible Jones

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

This bug occurs only in Gecko-based browsers, as I said, and the widgets of the browser itself are only obscured when said browser is Firefox.

rose

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Re: Ugly, ugly Firefox bug

This isn't a BUG. Firefox just doesn't redraw fast enough in some cases.

I remember having performance problems with gtk apps when I had X shared memory extension disabled. Check if you have tmpfs mounted somewhere.