[SOLVED] Can't connect to internet after installation

plomp90 · 2013-09-24 21:19:22

Hello, I just installed Arch, and during the installation I connected to wifi (obviously, since I had to download the packages) with iwconfig and all the other tools on the installer, but after the installation I wasn't connected any more. I have no idea how to connect to the internet now, all the guides online say to run iwconfig or any of the other connection tools, which I can't do since I don't HAVE them.

I can't connect through ethernet either, I think either the ethernet port on my laptop is broken, or the drivers just aren't working (apparently people on the forums have the same problem with my chipset). My friend told me to try sudo wifi-menu, but apparently I need to install dialog for that, which, of course, requires internet connection.

Should I plug in the USB again, and try something with that? Is there any way to set up a wifi connection without using all the fancy connection tools that I don't have? Sorry if I'm being dumb, I have absolutely no idea how to connect. The wiki doesn't help, and neither does google.

Last edited by plomp90 (2013-09-25 01:41:55)

karol · 2013-09-24 21:25:28

You can download the dialog package manually from https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dialog/ by slicking the 'Download From Mirror' link. If you need the 32-bit package, just go to https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/dialog/
Move the package to th new installation e.g. via a pendrive and install it.

We have no idea what went wrong. You haven't even told us what is the chipset that you and some people have issue with.

plomp90 · 2013-09-24 21:29:05

Ah, thanks. The chipset is Realtek R8169, but I don't think that'll help much. I'm pretty sure it's just my crap port.

MrElg · 2013-09-24 21:32:46

Didnt you install dialog during the Arch installation process? It is one of the default options, and I don't recommend to not use it. Use
$ pacman -Q dialog
to check if it is available on your system. You'll need that for the wifi-menu and to be able to connect through wifi.

Otherwise, you should also make sure that the network drivers are properly installed, and that both the hardware and software switches are turned on.

plomp90 · 2013-09-24 21:33:50

Thanks, I'll do that.

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Trilby · 2013-09-24 21:34:15

I'd suggest booting into the live usb again, mounting your partitions (just like you did to install) then use pacstrap to install wireless_tools. Then unmount just like during the installation, and reboot.

I've done a good number of installations, and I'll actually install a good number of packages right from the live usb along with base and base-devel.

plomp90 · 2013-09-24 21:59:41

How do I use pacstrap to install wireless_tools(I've booted to the LiveUSB and mounted the partitions)? What's its directory?

clfarron4 · 2013-09-24 22:02:23

Trilby wrote:

I've done a good number of installations, and I'll actually install a good number of packages right from the live usb along with base and base-devel.

I think with the last few times I've done an ArchLinux installation, I've literally set-up the whole thing (as in done base, base-devel, networkmanager, X and a DE) in the Arch LiveCD. LightDM isn't happy being set-up in the LiveCD environment though I've noticed.

For this, I use pacstrap for base and base-devel and then pacman for the rest.

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jasonwryan · 2013-09-24 22:08:55

plomp90 wrote:

How do I use pacstrap to install wireless_tools(I've booted to the LiveUSB and mounted the partitions)? What's its directory?

pacstrap -h

plomp90 · 2013-09-24 22:27:35

I try to install it and it just says "error: failed retrieving file from ..." a million times. I tried connecting to wifi to my WEP router, but the connection fails every time...

cfr · 2013-09-24 22:49:56

You need to connect to the internet the way you did when installing before you can install the packages.

Did you follow the Beginners' Guide? If so, you should have configured your network setup as part of the initial installation. If not, you should read through it to see if you missed other important steps.

plomp90 · 2013-09-24 23:48:36

I connected to the internet while booted on the LiveUSB, mounted root on /mnt and home on /mnt/home, and then ran "pacstrap /mnt wireless_tools".
It worked, and I umounted the partitions and rebooted, but then when I ejected the LiveUSB and booted from the installed system, I still couldn't use iw and wifi-menu!
Did I do something wrong?

Scimmia · 2013-09-25 00:17:00

"couldn't use" doesn't help us. Why couldn't you use them?

plomp90 · 2013-09-25 00:27:36

The console says "-bash: <command>: command not found" for every command from wireless_tools, like "iw" and "wifi-menu". It even says I still don't have "dialog".

Scimmia · 2013-09-25 00:33:58

I assume "pacman -Q netctl iw" tells you they're not installed? Boot back from the USB drive and forget pacstrap, use "pacman --root /mnt -S iw netctl dialog"

Edit: Note that wifi-menu and iw aren't from wireless_tools.

Last edited by Scimmia (2013-09-25 00:36:49)

plomp90 · 2013-09-25 00:41:03

So how do I get iw and wifi-menu?

karol · 2013-09-25 00:52:17

You install iw and netctl. Follow Scimmia's advice.

jasonwryan · 2013-09-25 01:08:04

plomp90 wrote:

So how do I get iw and wifi-menu?

Please make some effort yourself: don't be a help vampire.

plomp90 · 2013-09-25 01:09:58

Ah, right. Thanks a lot, everybody, sorry for being so inept at linux. I'll try and contribute as much in the future to the community as you guys did to my efforts.

plomp90 · 2013-09-25 01:11:43

jasonwryan wrote:

plomp90 wrote:
So how do I get iw and wifi-menu?
Please make some effort yourself: don't be a help vampire.

Yeah, I do fit all the criteria, don't I...
Sorry, will try to be more constructive in the future.

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