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#1 2005-12-18 10:03:59

jinn
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Xorg 7.0 modular

Is anyone using xorg 7.0? any howtos on how to install it? When will it come to arch as a pacman install?

Schedule
4 Jul 2005: Feature freeze for the monolithic source tree

1 Aug 2005: RC0 (Release Candidate 0)

18 Oct 2005: RC1 (Full release candidate)

9 Nov 2005: RC2 (Code Freeze)

2 Dec 2005: RC3

12 Dec 2005: Copy ,v files from monolithic to modular tree

14 Dec 2005: Finalize tree (only documentation changes allowed)

21 Dec 2005: X11R6.9/X11R7 Release

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Now that we've finished the final release candidate (RC4), we are in the process of updating the release documentation. If you have any documentation changes, please file bugs against the release bug and attach patches with the changes. If you get your patches in by Monday, 19 Dec 2005, we will be able to include your documentation update in the release.


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#2 2005-12-18 12:32:45

stavrosg
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

modular Xorg will hit testing soon after the release, or so I hear. Just be patient a few more days ^_~

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#3 2005-12-18 12:39:02

JGC
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Upgrading my RC3 packages to RC4 now. Still have to package a few of them, but when they're done they will hit testing. I don't expect big changes between RC4 and final anyways.

Only problem here: we move Xorg to /usr, which means users have to update their configuration files. I will try to keep some compatibility using symlinks though.

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#4 2005-12-18 12:39:12

Cam
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

JGC has been working hard on the packages for this from what I hear, it hasn't even been released yet, hang about and we'll get our hands on it in due time smile

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#5 2005-12-18 15:30:33

Gullible Jones
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

There'll have to be new versions of the font packages in Testing...

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#6 2005-12-18 21:50:16

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

sweet.. Ive gotta say I appreciate all the ppl working on this. Actually not only this but on Archlinux!

JGC, special thanx to you.

cheers mates!
jinn


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#7 2005-12-21 09:31:35

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Has anyone tried out xorg 7.0 rc4 or final yet?

How Can one install packages in testing anyway? I only want xorg 7.0 from testing..


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#8 2005-12-21 10:28:12

pbw
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

jinn wrote:

How Can one install packages in testing anyway? I only want xorg 7.0 from testing..

Add testing to the bottom of pacman.conf

pacman -Sy testing/xorg (or whatever testing packages you want)

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#9 2005-12-21 11:04:45

Gullible Jones
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

The rest of testing is pretty stable though.

(Damn, no artwiz-fonts packagee. I'll have to redo that one myself...)

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#10 2005-12-21 11:53:18

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

has anyone with ati vga tried out the new xorg with the new drivers?
I know ati is crap in linux but lets se how much improvements there have been.. please post some info of your experiences and with glxgears output..

cheers
Jinn


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#11 2005-12-21 17:28:37

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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

I have just tried 7 from testing on my 2 arch installs.  The one with nv is fine, but the ati one only gives me an option for 800x600 using both ati and radeon.  I have tried running xorgconf again and still a problem.

Also, x does not start automatically, kdm seems to have a problem.

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#12 2005-12-21 17:38:00

JGC
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

gdm also has problems: it's looking for X in /usr/X11R6/bin. I think kdm has the same problem.

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#13 2005-12-21 21:25:10

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

I tried with a clean install directly to xorg 7.0 after it had downloaded all the packages i got this error message:

xf86-input-mouse: /usr/man/man5/mouse.4.gz. exists in filesystem 

errors occured, no packages were upgraded

how come..


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#14 2005-12-21 22:01:20

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Ok.. fixed that problem by removing that package. I am now running Xorg 7.0 and its working like a charm. I just have one last problem. I installed gnome and using it as the WM. the fonts are really ugly.. and there are no icons.. how do I fix this?

btw great work JGC!

cheers!


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#15 2005-12-21 22:48:49

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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

The missing scripts are easy: I forgot to include the /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh script in some package. I think this file should go into the package that manages normal profile stuff, or I should have an xorg-common package.

To fix this before we fix it official, grab the file from /var/abs/x11/xorg/xorg.sh and place it into /etc/profile.d, re-login and try again smile

About the fonts: does /etc/fontconfig/fonts.conf scan /usr/share/fonts?

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#16 2005-12-21 22:58:47

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

I guess you mean /etc/fonts/fonts.conf. well I do have the /usr/share/fonts line in the fonts.conf if thats what your asking. rebooted and fonts looking good now.

Still no icons.. another thing is strange with my gnome.. alot of stuff that is supposed to show up in gnom-menu doesnt.. like firefox or bmp or mplayer.. why o why?

Not only that I cant make gnome-volume-control appear in the panel.. I click on add and so on.. but nothing appears.. strange..  and yes sound is working nicely.


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#17 2005-12-21 23:29:41

JGC
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

the /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh scriptlet was supplying you with XDG_DATA_DIRS and more like those things. Without it, /usr isn't included, which means you will lose all icon themes installed over there, all menu entries...
Grab the file from CVS or abs and put it in /etc/profile.d/ again and it should be fine again.

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#18 2005-12-21 23:34:49

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

sweet.. thanx JGC... the problem was that I didnt chmod the xorg.sh file.. works perfectly now.


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#19 2005-12-21 23:56:34

Gullible Jones
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Wow, this new XOrg version is awesome... And did I mention fast?

One problem, scroll wheels don't work by default... Not a showstopper though, easily solvable.

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#20 2005-12-22 00:09:25

Runzajs
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

i have problem with kdm to, its dont start up, i have take a look in /var/log/error.log
and kdm try to start X in /usr/X11R6/bin this fails ofc, i have change the wrong paths in
kdmrc.default "/usr/X11R6" -> "/usr" but still no luck, does this xorg.sh handle this problem to ?
What changes we have to make in xorg.conf, i have change the font paths, anything else ?
kde works fine
i wil test more tomorrow

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#21 2005-12-22 00:15:30

Gullible Jones
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

That's probably a KDM problem, not a Xorg one.

At any rate, for those of you with scroll mice whose wheels ain't working: try switching to the ImPS/2 protocol - everything will work again.

(Don't ask me why it doesn't work with "auto". Perhaps it has to with using hwd... You know, xorg.conf settings in Xorg 7 being different. I'm not really sure, but I can tell you that ImPS/2 works.)

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#22 2005-12-22 00:18:59

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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Runzajs wrote:

i have problem with kdm to, its dont start up

As did JGC said a few posts ago

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#23 2005-12-22 00:35:59

jinn
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Yeah.. new xorg is superfast for me.. now it only takes about 5 seconds for gnome to start.. compared to 15 seconds.. and i get 1200fps with glxgears compared to 800fps, not to mension that I basicly didnt do anything to get dri working.. I am happy big_smile.


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#24 2005-12-22 01:44:32

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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

Did you try to do

# cd /usr
# ln -s . X11R6

That seems to help for a few important packages for me. Though, I didn't try with kdm.

Btw, you have to remove the X11R6 directory before creating the symlink.

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#25 2005-12-22 02:53:16

colnago
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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

yeah, the sym link worked for kdm.

If you do that, make sure you fix the font paths in xorg.conf.

Note that xfig installs to the X11R6 dir, so you will lose that if you delete it.

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