Xorg 7.0 modular

stonecrest · 2005-12-22 03:12:03

Damn!!! I cannot believe how fast and responsive this is. All my apps start faster, X loads and quits extremely quickly, etc.

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-22 03:46:24

One problem I noticed is that my firefox and openoffice icons and links are gone from the KDE menu.

I tried to reinstall, but that didnt work.

Not a showstopper, but any idea how to fix this?

Thanks!!!

Joe

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-22 04:15:54

Also, apperently, fonts are rather small and seem aliased. My local.conf file in /etc/fonts and KDE also have anti alias enabled.

Joe

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-22 04:51:06

EmbraceThePenguin wrote:

One problem I noticed is that my firefox and openoffice icons and links are gone from the KDE menu.
I tried to reinstall, but that didnt work.
Not a showstopper, but any idea how to fix this?
Thanks!!!
Joe

Ok, I usually dont quote my own posts, BUT, I fixed this with chmod +x xorg.sh in /etc/profile.d as was said a few posts up...

Joe

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-22 06:49:02

EmbraceThePenguin wrote:

Also, apperently, fonts are rather small and seem aliased. My local.conf file in /etc/fonts and KDE also have anti alias enabled.
Joe

HEHEHE... I fixed this one too :-P...

Never mind me. Sometimes, after a long day at work, I seem rather lost :-D

Joe

baze · 2005-12-22 08:42:06

Hi,

I tried to remove xorg 6.8.2 and install xorg 7rc4 and I don't get errors while removing and installing the packages, but when I try to run startx with 7rc4 (as normal user, or as root) I get this error:

xauth: creating new authority file /home/baze/.serverauth.27057

giving up.
/usr/bin/xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to Xserver
/usr/bin/xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error

The 27057 is just an example...
Ehen I try to run Xorg, it segfaults.
Xorg -version works..

I switched back to 6.8.2 for now, but would like to test 7. any ideas, what could be wrong?

gradgrind · 2005-12-22 09:13:09

I noticed all those many new Xorg related packages which appeared in 'testing' as a result of the modularization in version 7, and I must say I wasn't entirely happy.
In principle I think the idea is really good, but the thought of all those extra packages cluttering up the repository disturbed me slightly. I like the simplicity of the Arch repository structure, but as the number of packages grows, it gets a bit difficult to keep up with what's in there (and the wonderfully concise descriptions are sometimes just that bit too short, which adds to the difficulty). I suppose I could scan through the 'abs' hierarchy if I want a bit of grouping, ...
But mainly my question was, whether it is really necessary to modularize to this extent. I imagine many, or even most users will install (nearly) everything – either because they are not sure what they need or can't be bothered to look into the details. And indeed many of the packages will be dependencies. The only real advantage is then the ability to update smaller parts. I wonder whether it wouldn't be possible to combine some of these components into larger group-packages (say xlibs, fontstuff, etc.), so that some of the advantages of modularization are gained without going completely wild with package proliferation (which I believe has been frequently criticized in the case of Gnome).

This might be a really stupid suggestion - if so, please forgive my ignorance!

baze · 2005-12-22 13:05:02

I reinstalled arch on another hd but even then I get exactly the same error

Runzajs · 2005-12-22 14:14:51

JGC wrote:

The missing scripts are easy: I forgot to include the /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh script in some package. I think this file should go into the package that manages normal profile stuff, or I should have an xorg-common package.
To fix this before we fix it official, grab the file from /var/abs/x11/xorg/xorg.sh and place it into /etc/profile.d, re-login and try again
About the fonts: does /etc/fontconfig/fonts.conf scan /usr/share/fonts?

the only directory i have in "/var/abs" is called "local"

#updatedb
#locate xorg.sh
nothing found

:?:

JGC · 2005-12-22 14:51:29

/var/abs/ is for people who use abs to retrieve the sources. The xorg.sh filename can be downloaded from webcvs also if you like:

This one is the one going into some package really soon:
http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcv … sh?rev=1.3

JGC · 2005-12-22 14:52:25

baze wrote:

Hi,
I tried to remove xorg 6.8.2 and install xorg 7rc4 and I don't get errors while removing and installing the packages, but when I try to run startx with 7rc4 (as normal user, or as root) I get this error:
xauth: creating new authority file /home/baze/.serverauth.27057

giving up.
/usr/bin/xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to Xserver
/usr/bin/xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error
The 27057 is just an example...
Ehen I try to run Xorg, it segfaults.
Xorg -version works..
I switched back to 6.8.2 for now, but would like to test 7. any ideas, what could be wrong?

Your X server segfaults before xinit notices it, causing the unable to connect errors. Please look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if you can find anything suspicious over there.

basilburn · 2005-12-22 16:22:11

And lets not forget /etc/xdg

(even though nothing uses it at the moment.)

rox filer PKGBUILD should probably be updated to use it sometime in the distant future.

baze · 2005-12-22 17:00:01

JGC wrote:

baze wrote:
Hi,
I tried to remove xorg 6.8.2 and install xorg 7rc4 and I don't get errors while removing and installing the packages, but when I try to run startx with 7rc4 (as normal user, or as root) I get this error:
xauth: creating new authority file /home/baze/.serverauth.27057

giving up.
/usr/bin/xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to Xserver
/usr/bin/xinit: No such process (errno 3): server error
The 27057 is just an example...
Ehen I try to run Xorg, it segfaults.
Xorg -version works..
I switched back to 6.8.2 for now, but would like to test 7. any ideas, what could be wrong?
Your X server segfaults before xinit notices it, causing the unable to connect errors. Please look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if you can find anything suspicious over there.

/var/log/Xorg.0.log is empty. I have the old logs from 6.8.2 in Xorg.0.log.old, but no logs from xorg7.
I tried the updated packages, but nothing seems to work.

jinn · 2005-12-22 17:14:48

there is one thing bugging me.. When I minimize for example firefox, it kind of hacks itself into minimize.. how come? why isnt it done smoothly? I have been able to do this smoothly, but I am guessing some kind of package is missing or something.. any ideas?

jinn

ganja_guru · 2005-12-22 17:50:33

A simple question...Do I have to install all the new packages if I want xorg 7.0? If yes, won't that defeat part of the purpose of going modular? If no, how do I know what exactly I need to install? I'm really uncomfortable saying 'y' to all..(yes, arch made me this way ; )

jellywerker · 2005-12-22 18:04:12

Does a pacman -S xorg upgrade this fine, or do you need to do more?

colnago · 2005-12-22 19:15:02

I had to remove xorg first, then reinstall. there is a new xorg-server package today that might be different.

jellywerker · 2005-12-22 20:53:58

hmm, I'll wait a bit then.

Runzajs · 2005-12-22 21:36:46

JGC wrote:

/var/abs/ is for people who use abs to retrieve the sources. The xorg.sh filename can be downloaded from webcvs also if you like:
This one is the one going into some package really soon:
http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcv … sh?rev=1.3

thx for the info,
i wait a little and then -> pacman -Syu
please fix the kdm problem to

Gullible Jones · 2005-12-22 22:01:21

jinn wrote:

there is one thing bugging me.. When I minimize for example firefox, it kind of hacks itself into minimize.. how come? why isnt it done smoothly? I have been able to do this smoothly, but I am guessing some kind of package is missing or something.. any ideas?
jinn

This is probably a Firefox problem. Firefox 1.5's new version of Gecko is very nice, but the interface has all kinds of annoying minor bugs. That's one of the reasons everyone wants the Mozilla people to get cracking on the Gecko Runtime Environment.

desertViking · 2005-12-22 22:53:11

I downloaed the xorg.sh from the cvs server, chmod 777 xorg.sh, but I still have a very spartan KDE menu system. No firefox, thunderbird, open office (much less an office directory).

Poop.

Gullible Jones · 2005-12-22 23:36:22

Hmm... That happened to me with Gnome. I ended up doing the copy-format-reinstall shuffle, and now everything works... So that's pretty much the solution I'd recommend, unfortunately.

(If you wonder what it is, here's how you do it:
1. 'cp -a' your entire home directory to a directory in the root partition.
2. Unmount the /home partition and reformat it with whatever filesystem you want.
3. Mount the formatted /home partition and copy the copy of your home dir back into it.
4. Reboot and reinstall Arch Linux, preferably via FTP. When formatting your partitions, make sure that you do not wipe out the /home partition!
5. Reboot into your new Arch system, install the stuff you need, and set it up how you want it.

Obviously, this only works if you have a separate partition for /home. If you don't... tough luck. )

pukyxd · 2005-12-23 13:11:25

I'm having problems upgrading. I've done a pacman -Syu and after that I can't start the X server. I've changed the xorg.conf to adapt it to the new path but it doesn't start. Here the X log:

X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.15-rc6 i686
Current Operating System: Linux pukypc 2.6.14-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 17 14:46:38 PST 2005 i686
Build Date: 22 December 2005
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Dec 23 13:51:25 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) FontPath set to "/usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/lib/X11/"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/lib/X11/'
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
X.Org Video Driver: 0.8
X.Org XInput driver : 0.5
X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module bitmap
(II) UnloadModule: "bitmap"
(EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module pcidata
(II) UnloadModule: "pcidata"
(EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0)
Fatal server error:
Unable to load required base modules, Exiting...
(WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor
(WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor

Ang my xorg.conf

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "extmod"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Load "xtrap"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "ZaxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "DigitalVibrance" # 
#Option "NoFlip" # [<bool>]
#Option "Dac8Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoLogo" # [<bool>]
#Option "UBB" # [<bool>]
#Option "Stereo" # 
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" # 
#Option "NvAGP" # 
#Option "IgnoreEDID" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ConnectedMonitor" # <str>
#Option "ConnectedMonitors" # <str>
#Option "TVStandard" # <str>
#Option "TVOutFormat" # <str>
Option "RenderAccel" "true" # [<bool>]
#Option "CursorShadow" # [<bool>]
#Option "CursorShadowAlpha" # 
#Option "CursorShadowXOffset" # 
#Option "CursorShadowYOffset" # 
#Option "UseEdidFreqs" # [<bool>]
#Option "FlatPanelProperties" # <str>
#Option "TwinView" # [<bool>]
#Option "TwinViewOrientation" # <str>
#Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" # <str>
#Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" # <str>
#Option "MetaModes" # <str>
#Option "UseInt10Module" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoRenderExtension" # [<bool>]
#Option "Overlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "CIOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceEmulatedOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "TransparentIndex" # 
#Option "OverlayDefaultVisual" # [<bool>]
#Option "NvEmulate" # 
#Option "NoBandWidthTest" # [<bool>]
#Option "CustomEDID-CRT-0" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-CRT-1" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-DFP-0" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-DFP-1" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-TV-0" # <str>
#Option "CustomEDID-TV-1" # <str>
#Option "TVOverScan" # <f>
#Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" # <str>
#Option "MultisampleCompatibility" # [<bool>]
#Option "RegistryDwords" # <str>
#Option "RegistryBinary" # <str>
#Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" # [<bool>]
#Option "AllowDFPStereo" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMCUsesTextures" # [<bool>]
#Option "HorizSync" # <str>
#Option "VertRefresh" # <str>
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" # [<bool>]
#Option "RandRRotation" # [<bool>]
#Option "ExactModeTimingsDVI" # [<bool>]
#Option "Coolbits" # 
#Option "AllowDDCCI" # [<bool>]
#Option "ConstantFrameRateHint" # [<bool>]
#Option "LoadKernelModule" # [<bool>]
#Option "ClearCube" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nv"
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

With the xorg 6.8.2 no problem. If somebody can help me...

desertViking · 2005-12-23 14:14:29

Gullible Jones wrote:

Hmm... That happened to me with Gnome. I ended up doing the copy-format-reinstall shuffle, and now everything works... So that's pretty much the solution I'd recommend, unfortunately.
(If you wonder what it is, here's how you do it:
<snip>
Obviously, this only works if you have a separate partition for /home. If you don't... tough luck. )

Thx for the advice. I do have a separate home partition, so while this solution wil be a pain, I think I can pull it off ok.

Why do you recommend FTP? I usually install from CD, then update to current, then add testing and extras. It's a couple of steps, but usually keeps me out of trouble.

BTW, did you ever figure out how you got in this state?

Thx again

kakabaratruskia · 2005-12-23 16:08:24

pukyxd wrote:

Ang my xorg.conf
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

had the same problem here. The path is "/usr/lib/xorg/modules".

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Re: Xorg 7.0 modular

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